In the same sense that putting a feather on a supertanker would make it ever so slightly heavier - yes.
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In the same sense that putting a feather on a supertanker would make it ever so slightly heavier - yes.
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Sight isn't the only means of detecting objects, anyone who thinks such a thing should go back to school.
Here we go again...
What other means of detection is there? mavity waves? To my knowledge all NEOs are detected by 'visual' methods. Now, 'visual' of course could mean various frequencies in the electromagnetic spectrum, or did you think I was actually suggesting people were standing on mountain tops looking up at the sky for dodgy looking objects moving around? Because anyone who thinks such things should go back to nursery.
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A vaguely educated, realistic, version of this was covered in the New Scientist a few weeks ago. There was no reference to 2012 though, and as far as Im aware - 2001 went without a communications wipeout
Seriously Magick, grow the hell up.. Or get out of your mums basement, whichever is more applicable.
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When is the Mayan Calander supposed to end exactly? Dec 21st 2012?
Despite the unlikely apocolyptic event, I'm sure every news channel will be doing something about it
Despite the unlikely apocolyptic event, I'm sure every news channel will be doing something about it
We'd have detected on telescopes and other instruments by now. No planet is on it's way, it cant be seen so if it was going to be here in 2012 it would be traveling at speeds that is not possible for a planet.
Here we go again...
What other means of detection is there? mavity waves? .
Close enough. For small objects it's sight - yes. But for massive objects, like this putative planet, the pertubation of the other planet's orbits will be obvious before the planet itself is visible.
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Probably... But certain people on this thread seem to think we have some Star Trek like technology, when infact all we really have are visual bases systems and luck... So in our hypothetical example of a small planet heading towards us from a massive sling shot orbit, to hit us in over three years time, I wouldn't be surprised if we wouldn't have seen it by now. All NEOs are for example only detected by luckily seeing some reflected light (from the object) in a couple of shots by sheer luck...
If it was the brown dwarf it's usually claimed to be, by now it would be visbile to the naked eye from the surface of Earth. The only thing brighter at night would be the moon - Nibiru would appear brighter than the stars. It would be more obvious than a 100 foot long balloon in the shape of a blow-up doll floating over London in the middle of the day.
It it was "just" a planet at least 10 times as massive as Earth and by chance it had a very low albedo and thus couldn't be seen in the visual light spectrum even by the best equipment, there's still that huge mass. The resulting gravitational field would affect the orbits of the outer planets.
We're talking about a massive body inside the solar system. It's not plausible that it would escape detection. Many things do, but they're billions of times smaller.
Two other points:
People were claiming it would hit in 2003 before latching it on to the Mayan calendar thing.
If it has swung this way many thousands of times before (which it must have done, if it's orbiting the sun), why is it going to hit the next time...and how would anyone know?
NEOs are mostly under a mile across and go down to specks of dust. They might mass some millions of tonnes. In astronomical scale, they're miniscule.
Nibiru is usually claimed to be a brown dwarf. Emitting light and emitting a lot of infrared. Rather a lot larger than an asteroid. Billions of times as much mass. Far more noticeable.
The other claim is that Nibiru is a planet at least 10 times as massive as the Earth. Again, a lot more noticeable than an asteroid.
It's like comparing a single speck of dust in the sky with a flying mountain - you might not see the former, but the latter would stand out a bit more.
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The Bible says...
That the date for Armageddon, the final battle between Good an Evil, has been set down for 2012. The I Ching, also known as the Chinese book of Changes, says the same thing, as do various sections of the Hindu teachings.
That the date for Armageddon, the final battle between Good an Evil, has been set down for 2012. The I Ching, also known as the Chinese book of Changes, says the same thing, as do various sections of the Hindu teachings.
LOL! So they're suggesting a star is headed for us?
OK! We'd have noticed that 
I thought maybe is was just suppose to be a small planet or something... Not something bigger than Jupiter trying to sneak up on us all unnoticed like
LOL! So they're suggesting a star is headed for us?
I thought maybe is was just suppose to be a small planet or something... Not something bigger than Jupiter trying to sneak up on us all unnoticed like
Well...judging by times the size of Earth, its not as big as jupiter, as we fit into that storm thingy on jupiter.
RE reference to Jupiter - Thinking more of a brown dwarf star TBH...