Valencia - Spain - EUROPEAN Grand Prix 2009 - Race 11/17
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You blatantly have no idea at all what you are talking about
Obviously fitness means ****, one very good way of doing this is by doing multiple sports events like triathalons - thats proving commitment (while on an enforced break) rather than showing deriliction of duty as you are trying to imply
As Brawn himself said in one of those races where Rubens actually started on the front row, he plainly wasnt fast enough in the first place - as could be seen just watching the race - he couldnt hack the pace while Button after a bad start was actually consistently near the top of the times all through the race when he had free air ahead of him, Rubens lost handfuls of time
I'm predicting Barrichello to have a good race and his first win.
If Button gets a clean start I think he'll move up to 3rd possibly 2nd.
My reasoning is I reckon Brawns are still easier on their tyres than McLaren and Red Bull. I heard Hamilton complaining about his rear tyres going off in Quali after only a few laps. And apparently when the rears go off they don't come back unlike the fronts. (Atleast thats what the Bridgestone guy said ^_^). The predicted temperature for the race is 36 degrees too, which is hotter than Friday and Saturday, so in theory a lot of cars are going to struggle with the temps. I don't expect Brawn to be one of those.
So I'm going.
Barrichello
Button
Hamilton
If Button gets a clean start I think he'll move up to 3rd possibly 2nd.
My reasoning is I reckon Brawns are still easier on their tyres than McLaren and Red Bull. I heard Hamilton complaining about his rear tyres going off in Quali after only a few laps. And apparently when the rears go off they don't come back unlike the fronts. (Atleast thats what the Bridgestone guy said ^_^). The predicted temperature for the race is 36 degrees too, which is hotter than Friday and Saturday, so in theory a lot of cars are going to struggle with the temps. I don't expect Brawn to be one of those.
So I'm going.
Barrichello
Button
Hamilton
Why the Button hate? Spot of jealousy?
Button is very commited to F1, he started the triathalons when he was having hard times at Honda and it helped keep him positive having something in his control that he could do well at (unlike the development of the car). He's probably the fittest guy in the paddock, and that is a huge bonus especially in hot races. Theres not many drivers that would get out of a car after a grueling race and could then run to the podium (which I had a good chuckle at! I might add)
.If I had Jenson's life, I would probably be a lot more wild and extravagant. I think he's pretty sensible mature driver. Hamilton isn't a mature driver (yet), he's just a bit dull which gives the illusion that he's mature!
Oh and don't take that as I hate hamilton, because I'm a big fan it's just nice to see Jenson do so well this year for a change.
Sunama, I really wish you wouldn't post in all these F1 threads in the manner in which you do. Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but you just seem to ram yours down everyone else's throats. A lot of your statements are unfounded without evidence and very questionable.
Having said that, you do make the odd good point. Just a shame the rest of the post is normally a load of hogwash.
Anyway, back to the race. For me it's hard to look past a Hamilton win, I hope Heiki manages to have a solid race and ends up on the podium. Hopefully one of the Brawn's take the other step on the podium.
Having said that, you do make the odd good point. Just a shame the rest of the post is normally a load of hogwash.
Anyway, back to the race. For me it's hard to look past a Hamilton win, I hope Heiki manages to have a solid race and ends up on the podium. Hopefully one of the Brawn's take the other step on the podium.
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Let's just hope that it doesn't live up to Webber's comment pre-race
"It's boring.. one of the least challenging tracks"
"It's boring.. one of the least challenging tracks"
A F1 thread without Sunama or JRS wouldnt be OCUK F1 thread....
its much like the rest of Motors without FOX
*blows kiss at Overlag*
i dont no why i typed webber when i ment vettel.
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oooOOOoooOoooo really?!
It better be good! None of this new school Celica/MR2 nonsense. I want something a la SUPRA or CELICA GT-4!
Those cars where the bizzle
Su
Not sure how much of its rumour but its from last 2 paragraphs:
http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns21713.html
edit: not rumour, fact:
http://www.worldcarfans.com/1090806...-sports-car-collaboration-with-subaru-is-a-go
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Excellent, Bernie has put his foot down on Donington. They have until the end of September to show things are progressing or we're back at Silverstone next year.
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/090823094627.shtml
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/090823094627.shtml
Unfortunately the BBC grid (unlike the Pitlane Fanatic one) doesn't take into account the fact that Lewis set his fastest time with a much heavier car and then aborted his fastest lap after setting two purple sectors.
The McLaren does appear to be the fastest fuel adjusted car out there.
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You reckon that a Brawn will beat a KERs equipped car away from the line?
He wouldnt have to - Brawns just need to hang on to the back of the McLarens (lead McLaren preferably) until the pit stops and then blitz the intervening laps in low weight car to over take in that pitstop
With heavier car and relatively cold tyres McLarens might not get ahead again after that
The only problem is Kovi - Unless he gets a bad start Lewis will probably lead into the 1st stops (where he should be stopping 1st by a few laps), however its whether Kovi will keep up and not slow the rest down (which is more likely) and create a gap for Lewis to come out ahead after that 1st stop
Only reasonable chance is for someone to pressurise Kovi into a mistake - within 1st few laps really - and sneak past to keep up with Lewis
Kimi has good race pace, but Im not entirely convinced he / ferrari are fast enough for a win yet (if its hot enough on race day for the Brawns / they have actually found the issue and corrected it) against the McLaren's /Brawns
I personally think the Red Bulls are fighting the car too much this weekend to fight for the win unless something happens to McLaren / Brawn - they may cure this over night but I suspect its something deeper, and they just have to do damage control for this weekend
Hopefully 1st , 3rd and 5th place on the grid is ultra clean and 2nd, 4th and 6th is sandy as ****
edit - oppps sorry Alibaba I see what you mean now I thought you meant for the win, 3rd is certainly possible for Button off the line - 2nd probably not unless Kovi / Lewis have a collision with someone / each other or a n other startline issue, which I think is unlikely
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Exactly. Unless Kova or Hamilton make a mistake, or someone hits them, then there's no chance of the Brawns getting past at the start. The point raised about tyres, though, is a good one. It's possible that Button will be able to capitalise on that to leap up some places.
Still, I can't see anyone but Lewis winning this one. Especially as he'll has Kova and Rubens behind him his real competition which should help him build a fine margin.
Button seems to know where he lost 2 tenths on his final quali lap - which seems to suggest he is actually just as fast as Rubens, if not faster (certainly more than likely to be more evenly paced during the race)
of course this could be bs - but last secction of his qauli lap was a little haphazard from what I saw on tv yesterday so it might well be true.
Given that Jenson if he gets a decent start and isnt balked by Kimi and his Kers Ferrari leaping ahead of him, he could certainly be pushing Rubens into the 1st stops if not already ahead and challanging Kovi depending of course on what happens to Vettel on the dirty side of the track and pottentially trying to fight a tricky car
of course this could be bs - but last secction of his qauli lap was a little haphazard from what I saw on tv yesterday so it might well be true.
Given that Jenson if he gets a decent start and isnt balked by Kimi and his Kers Ferrari leaping ahead of him, he could certainly be pushing Rubens into the 1st stops if not already ahead and challanging Kovi depending of course on what happens to Vettel on the dirty side of the track and pottentially trying to fight a tricky car
KIMMAY has totally blitzed the starts on the last couple of races though? He seems to have some amazing aggression & balls - at least for the initial part of the race 
I can see him leap-frogging JB, SV and probably RB as well given his track record of poor starts. I predict:
Hamilton
Raikkonen
Kovalainen
Although I want JB and RB in there of course!
Su
I can see him leap-frogging JB, SV and probably RB as well given his track record of poor starts. I predict:
Hamilton
Raikkonen
Kovalainen
Although I want JB and RB in there of course!
Su
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yay Eddies some use
We need a shot of his sandals now.
We need a shot of his sandals now.