World of Warcraft Cataclysm Thread

How would it make PvP interesting? All that happens in world PvP in WoW is that people mount up then fly off so you can't reach them.

Flying ruined world PvP as people just idle on mounts all day, this rings true for Northrend and Outlands, soon Azeroth.
 
Margaret said:
Lol@all the stat changes, talk about dumbing the game down further.
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Its not dumbing down, once you have done your maths on what items are what and what you need. There is not much thought involved, you don't even need to play the game to figure it out. As someone already said they change stats and how they work to stop some wackly balance issues. like how the changed the old crit/hit % to a crit/hit rating. Remmeber maths is only smart in school or the work place not the playground, which is what wow is.
 
willthepirate said:
id love to see them add a few servers that run wow classic, although maybe with fast levelling
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I imagine that is almost certain to happen, just not while all the hype of Cataclysm is around. Classic servers are more like the kind of thing that they will keep up their sleeve for when interest in the game begins to lessen again, then they will use their Classic servers card :)
 
Saltank said:
Damn, i feel sorry for those Age of Conan devs who kept saying how an expansion should not be just a new area but expanding on the existing areas. They said it first, Blizzard will probably be more successful with the idea :(
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Blizzard are the absolute masters of nicking other peoples ideas and polishing them into their own versions. Look at how much they have stolen from Warhammer online (amongst others) in WotlK and Catacalysm
 
Rimsy said:
Blizzard are the absolute masters of nicking other peoples ideas and polishing them into their own versions. Look at how much they have stolen from Warhammer online (amongst others) in WotlK and Catacalysm
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And warhammer online stole nothing from wow ofc!

Having said that, Warhammer online is so dull, I didnt bother playing much after the first month.
 
Well wars whole UI was pretty much just ripped straight out of wow. The only thing war had going for it imo was public questing. That idea was great an I hope it makes a appearence in wow.

Watching the blizzcon stream today. It has been very laggy ;( but diablo 3 looks ace.
 
lofarl said:
Well wars whole UI was pretty much just ripped straight out of wow.
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Yeah the UI was pretty similar, (sensible decision really). Though WoW itself virtually copied the UI direct from Asherons Call 2.

This UI look familiar?

Not really much you can do with a default UI I guess.

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I think really UIs are pretty redundant these days, most people immediately whack a shed load of custom UIs on anyway. Might as well make all UIs the bare minimum but highly editable and just let people make up their own.


Diablo 3 does look absolutely brilliant :)
 
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Dr Who said:
And warhammer online stole nothing from wow ofc!

Having said that, Warhammer online is so dull, I didnt bother playing much after the first month.
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ahh you're one of those who believe MMO's started with WoW and EQ/AC are but fragments of old peoples imagination?

*nod nod*

just for the record, i dont play Warhammer online - likewise I played it for the first few months and then got sick of it, however there is pretty much NOTHING in WoW that isnt present in MMO's that were out before WoW's release. All you folks under the spell of WoW being the original mmo that which all others copy need a sense check...
 
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agreed. nothing wrong with it. just makes me wonder if we'll ever see something "new" come out from blizzard or wether it'll just be another decade of sequels / rehashes :)
 
lol at the first page "i cant see any of this happening"

well, it all is, and allot more, they are making the game 10x funner, with guild achievments and progressing

the sad person i am ive been watching blizzcon for the last 2 days, watched all the Q&A for cataclysm and everything, and it looks very promising, allot bigger than lich king

youll find lots of the Q&A on youtube i bet, im not a geek and i dont care because i wont be here for the release, but it looks very very good, like a whole new game almost
 
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I must admit this one seems more interesting than the previous two.

Always wanted a human female hunter too :p

Edit: Woah, didn't see the stats change, that's pretty insane.
 
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Rimsy said:
ahh you're one of those who believe MMO's started with WoW and EQ/AC are but fragments of old peoples imagination?

*nod nod*

just for the record, i dont play Warhammer online - likewise I played it for the first few months and then got sick of it, however there is pretty much NOTHING in WoW that isnt present in MMO's that were out before WoW's release. All you folks under the spell of WoW being the original mmo that which all others copy need a sense check...
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Yeah at 45 years old, I think all games started 4 years ago, and I never played any games prior to wow

:rolleyes:

I played EQ when it was a tiny window in the middle of the screen, it sucked. As did that carpy Star Wars MMO.

My point was that people were saying things were stolen from other MMOS, may as well say the same about every FPS and 3PS.

Other MMO's ideas get incorporated into WoW as people ask for these kinda features on the forums, not because Blizz think, lets steal something as that is better than ours!

The point about wow is that it has captured the imgination of many players, they see WoW and say I wish I had that feature from xyz MMO and ask for it. 12m odd players is a lot of people to try and keep playing, and loss of them would mean a massive decrease to Blizz's revenue, so surprise surprise they give people what they want!
 
Dr Who said:
The point about wow is that it has captured the imgination of many players, they see WoW and say I wish I had that feature from xyz MMO and ask for it. 12m odd players is a lot of people to try and keep playing, and loss of them would mean a massive decrease to Blizz's revenue, so surprise surprise they give people what they want!
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Wish they would give me what I want :(
 
apeZ said:
No, they are removing stats (spell power, armor pen, attack power) entirely and boosting the 'base' stats such as strength , agi and intellect to compensate. It takes a whole dimension out of the game, I enjoyed looking at different gear to compare which was most suitable for me.

It's hardly complicated either, IIRC you hover over the tooltip and it tells you exactly how much spell power = damage % increase etc.

I just feel that they are simplifying it for no reason whatsoever. Have scoured their forums and cannot find a single thread asking for it to be changed/removed/modified, hence why I deem it unnecessary.
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they are removing the stats, from items, the stats will still exist, just not in that form.
priests get 25% spirit as spell power, things like that will still be in the game, they are going to be remaking the talent trees, so that dimension hasnt gone,

and its a mod that shows you the more detailed into about spell power etc.

as said, they are streamlining it for balance issues, and so with the reworked trees, they wont need as many different niches with types of gear.
 
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