Ebay + Youtube + Piracy = LOL

linktoinsanity · 28 Sep 2009 at 10:33

I've just been skimming through this thread. Nice to see he's been punished.

Shame I was too late to see the actual listing though

Ironic Namesake · 28 Sep 2009 at 10:48

He didn't hide the fact everything was pirated very well - suprised eBay hadn't removed his listings earlier to be honest.

Burnsy2023 · 28 Sep 2009 at 10:49

touch said:
Since when are no-cd cracks illegal?

Since 1988 (or when ever the CDPA 1988 was amended)

“(1) This section applies where copies of a copyright work are issued to the public by or with the licence of the copyright owner in an electronic form which is copy protected.

(2) The person issuing the copies to the public has the same rights against the person who, knowing or having reason to believe that it will be used to make infringing copies (a) makes, imports, sells or lets for hire, offers or exposes for sale or hire, or advertises for sale or hire any device or means specifically designed or adapted to circumvent the form of copy protection employed; or (b) publishes information intended to enable or assist a person or persons to circumvent that form of copy-protection as a copyright owner has in respect of an infringement of copyright.

(4) References in this section to copy-protection include any device or means intended to prevent or restrict copying of the work or to impair the quality of copies made.”

And using a crack does not fall under the section 50 exemption:

“It is not an infringement of copyright for a lawful user of a copy of a computer program to make any backup copy of it which it is necessary for him to have for the purposes of his normal use.”

Vampyre · 28 Sep 2009 at 11:00

Burnsy2023 said:
And using a crack does not fall under the section 50 exemption:

See that's the bit that gets me..Surely a backup isn't a backup unless it works?

Burnsy2023 · 28 Sep 2009 at 11:03

Vampyre said:
See that's the bit that gets me..Surely a backup isn't a backup unless it works?

Yes but a crack isn't a backup. A backup is a copy of the original nothing more.

Pho · 28 Sep 2009 at 11:14

But don't copy protection schemes stop you making a 1:1 backup of the original, therefore rendering your backup useless?

Burnsy2023 · 28 Sep 2009 at 11:16

Pho said:
But don't copy protection schemes stop you making a 1:1 backup of the original, therefore rendering your backup useless?

Very possibly, but I also think cracks fall out of the purview of that exemption. I'm sure fini will give the final word when he sees this though.

V4NT0M · 28 Sep 2009 at 11:20

A crack is an illegal alteration of someone's IP.

.one. · 28 Sep 2009 at 11:46

So let me get this right you are all ****** off because some one posted a pc for sale with some warez installed because of piracy ? but it's ok for you to have a thread running about news accounts in the past with no attacks from anyone mm ok i see how it works here.

And as for reporting him it's just pathetic.

Duke · 28 Sep 2009 at 11:51

.one. said:
So let me get this right you are all ****** off because some one posted a pc for sale with some warez installed because of piracy ? but it's ok for you to have a thread running about news accounts in the past with no attacks from anyone mm ok i see how it works here.

And as for reporting him it's just pathetic.

Fegruson · 28 Sep 2009 at 11:52

.one. said:
So let me get this right you are all ****** off because some one posted a pc for sale with some warez installed because of piracy ? but it's ok for you to have a thread running about news accounts in the past with no attacks from anyone mm ok i see how it works here.

And as for reporting him it's just pathetic.

I think the major difference between the thread and this guy was 'profiting'.

Robert1986 · 28 Sep 2009 at 11:53

He made his videos private.

Wanted to watch them.

.one. said:
So let me get this right you are all ****** off because some one posted a pc for sale with some warez installed because of piracy ? but it's ok for you to have a thread running about news accounts in the past with no attacks from anyone mm ok i see how it works here.

And as for reporting him it's just pathetic.

Newsgroups can be used for legit purposes too you know. Not everyone is pirate. Further more, no one here is stupid enough to sell pirated software and then make a video about it.

Burnsy2023 · 28 Sep 2009 at 12:00

Skyfall said:
A crack is an illegal alteration of someone's IP.

What?

El_Watcher · 28 Sep 2009 at 12:39

Burnsy2023 said:
What?

AFAIK most cracks are a re-written .exe file which removes any link or request for the original installation disk.
This re-writing of the file is an alteration of original code which is against most licence agreements supplied by the manufacturer (some allow alteration for mods). Therefore rather than it being technically illegal itself, it invalidates the licence, which therefore makes it illegal to use the software.

deko · 28 Sep 2009 at 12:45

Burnsy2023 said:
What?

Intellectual property, im guessing.

Rainmaker · 28 Sep 2009 at 12:45

El_Watcher said:
AFAIK most cracks are a re-written .exe file which removes any link or request for the original installation disk.
This re-writing of the file is an alteration of original code which is against most licence agreements supplied by the manufacturer (some allow alteration for mods). Therefore rather than it being technically illegal itself, it invalidates the licence, which therefore makes it illegal to use the software.

Breaching an EULA is not illegal. It might be considered unlawful in some countries, but not illegal. Big difference.

Simi · 28 Sep 2009 at 13:01

Ready Keyboards,
Aim,
FIRE!!!!!

Vonhelmet · 28 Sep 2009 at 13:32

.one. said:
So let me get this right you are all ****** off because some one posted a pc for sale with some warez installed because of piracy ? but it's ok for you to have a thread running about news accounts in the past with no attacks from anyone mm ok i see how it works here.

And as for reporting him it's just pathetic.

It's because everyone here uses newsgroups for totally legitimate purposes.

By which I mean that if you believe that, you'll believe anything.

MikeHunt79 · 28 Sep 2009 at 13:54

LinktoInsanity said:
I've just been skimming through this thread. Nice to see he's been punished.

Shame I was too late to see the actual listing though

Well, to be fair he's removed all the evidence now, so he may have dodged a bullet here...

Glaucus · 28 Sep 2009 at 14:01

MikeHunt79 said:
Well, to be fair he's removed all the evidence now, so he may have dodged a bullet here...

Has he removed them? or has ebay removed them?

Anyway ebay can still see the listings.