is there an affordable supercar?

NSX is a very reliable beastie to say the least but I dread to think what parts costs are.

Corvettes are "ridiculously" cheap, on performance comparisons, to maintain. They are expected to be, and used as, daily drivers by people (some of whom are not necessarily au fait with performance cars) and have to be able to withstand a lot of abused and negligence in their life.

An older C5, say, a Z06 (405BHP, 400ft.lb, 0-60 in 3.9, 0-100-0 in 13.56, 189mph and sub 8 minutes around the 'ring) - can be serviced by anyone, right down to your local indy - and in it's life should only needs plugs, filters and oil on a very intermittent basis. There are other consumables, as you'd expect, like pads, discs and tyres - and a few other odds and sods like wiper blades, cabin air filter, occasionaly transmission, differential and brake fluid change but that's about it .....

The newer C6 Z06, is even more laid back. Up to 150,000 miles, the only servicing is as follows:

- Oil change approximately every 10,000 miles (depending on useage - calculated by the car)
- Coolant change at 50,000 miles
- Change the brake pads/discs when they need it
- Change the tires when required
- Change the cabin air filter once in a while
- Change the engine air intake filter every once in a long while
- Change the spark plugs at 100k miles

.....despite it being a 7 litre, 505BHP, 0-60 in 3.6 second car capable of turning in up and over 30mpg (something no Porsche in the same class can ever touch). There's no obligation, unless you bought it new, to have it serviced by explicitely trained technicians at an expensive dealership, as they're not complicated and don't require odd tools. That's about it. No Corvette ever has any nasty timing belt assemblies, or hideously complicated service procedures that require hour after hour of labour. Simply get it up on a ramp, drop all the fluids, filters and plugs, stick the new stuff on/in, drive!

Even when my master cylinder failed (about time) on my C4, which was just rolling up to 170,000 miles, the new part was only £160 and an hour's labour to fit, along with fresh fluid. Bargain :)

I think Stratstone charges about 280 quid for the 30,000 mile service on a Z06, which is the following:

- Mobil 1 oil change + filter
- Transmission fluid flush and refill (assuming automatic)
- Differential fluid flush and refill (with synthetic)
- 4 wheel alignment
- Brake bleed and refill

.....for example. A lot of that is fluid costs :)

Plus, as always, they're Chevrolet tough, so should soldier on indefinitely and run every time you turn the key. Built to be used daily, abused, tracked, and keep thundering onwards! :)
 
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Here's the service shedule for the C6 (including the LS2, LS7 and ZR1) - oil is not listed as it's calculated by the onboard computer (like in BMWs - accounting for useage, mileage, engine speeds and so on).

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Easy :)

Pew pew!:




 
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the more you talk about corvettes the more i like them.. always loved the looks of them.. never thought they could be affordable to maintain.. price wise they are cheap.. compared to other similar performance cars..
 
the more you talk about corvettes the more i like them.. always loved the looks of them.. never thought they could be affordable to maintain.. price wise they are cheap.. compared to other similar performance cars..

Yea, they're very reasonable to say the least :)

Any of the post '84 cars will, assuming they're in good nick, just require ignition consumables, brakes, tires, wiper blades, filters and fluids on the required basis :)

My '95 C4, for example (300BHP, 350ft.lb), needed plugs every 50,000 miles, air filter every 30,000, oil & filter every 8,000 miles and transmission fluid & filter (auto) every 30,000. Barring stuff like tires and brake consumables, that was it :) - and all the bits were available off the shelf from various dealers or just off UK eBay :D

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Just like that :)

For example - an air filter, oil filter, distributor cap (huge thing) & rotor arm, comes to £57.95 for any 85-89 C4. That pretty much, barring fluids, covers you for about 10k's worth of use :D

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/C4-Service-parts-for-Corvette-1985-1989-Filters-etc_W0QQitemZ370036465456
 
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Noble M12 over some sily old corvette :p

Insurance for me (24/25) is about £450-500, and the tax on these is pretty low too (I think).

It will have niggles and can cost a few £k if something goes wrong and you need to take the engine out, but the performance and overall cost on insurance, tax, and fuel (when off boost like a granny) seems very reasonable for the stats.

- Making an F430 look like a fiesta!

- Roush M400 vs carrera GT :D

Plus it looks like sex and is a great impractical mans car of W1N with ice cream !!!!!!!!!



 
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Available only by import from Australia. 50% price premium though pretty much over LHD equivalents - so not really worth it just for sitting on the other side of the car...

Claremont Corvette occasionally have one in too :)

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LHD's just fine in the UK though but I understand if you prefer otherwise! LHD even has a few pros for use in the UK... :)
 
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some very interesting aspects there. :) you're right, a supercar isn't a true supercar without a lottery windfall but i was just wondering if you could actually afford and bought one: could you run it! ie servicing etc. not fussed about mpg or insurance, i was just interested. those porsche intervals are insane!!:eek:

super to me is more enzo or f50 and a lower budget ferrari classes as more affordable. kind of a mixed bag i admit but i read that as all interesting. especially lashouts things on the corvette and housey etc for info on the porsche. :) interesting. :)
 
What's the deal with that gearstick, the middle one has it in the other hole?

Cupholders :) These are all done aftermarket so you'll find minor differences. There's a company in the UK offering the conversion too now, but I have no idea of quality or the depth of engineering.

The "LS" series designates the engine - the Corvettes, since the launch of the C5 in 1997, have had the LS1, LS6, LS2, LS7, LS3 and LS9 engines fitted in that order :)

Earlier Corvettes (C4s, 1984-1996) had the L83 "Crossfire", L98 "Tuned Port Injection", then the later LT1 (much the same as the LS1), the rarer LT4 (330BHP, 340ft.lb special edition LS1 engine) and lastly the devastating quad-cam LT5 with a maximum of 405BHP and 385ft.lb (522nm) in 1993. Earlier ones were slightly less powerful at 375BHP and 370ft.lb :)
 
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I suspect a lot of the stuff mentioned here would not be called a supercar in some people's books. I think it's more a top end sports car/light supercar thread.
 
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Erm no, there is no way either of these cars are even remotely considered a Supercar. Unless a Subaru Impreza suddenly is as well?

That's your opinion, many others would disagree. :cool:
 
That's your opinion, many others would disagree. :cool:

Who other than a die hard Vauxhall fanboy would consider a Holden Monaro a supercar?! It's a V8 Coupe!

I honestly find it quite amusing somebody is arguing a case for Vauxhall in the same breath as Ferrari..
 
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