Iran - does it stop with them?
- Thread starter dangerstat
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They're free! . . . Probably.
I think the UK should learn to STFU and get a grip. All this talk about bombing.....havent we learnt any lessons from Afghanistan and Iraq? Are we winning there? NO, didnt think so. More and more are dieing each day.
Iran would not be a push over. Its people are not afraid to die and thats one thing the western world cant grasp. You cant fight an enemy who is not scared of death. Infact they embrace it!
The UK needs to learn to mind its own business.
Iran would not be a push over. Its people are not afraid to die and thats one thing the western world cant grasp. You cant fight an enemy who is not scared of death. Infact they embrace it!
The UK needs to learn to mind its own business.
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Nah, the UK should keep kicking troublesome Arab arse until they learn to relatively behave like Dubai and Saudi Arabia.
Iranian are not arabs, maybe some geography lessons??
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This is a sensible comment.
This is a moronic comment.
It is interesting that 2 illegal invasions and about 8 years of post 9/11 fear-mongering (and other forms of media manipulation) have empowered a generation in this country to believe that they have the right to continue carrying out the racist imperialist instincts of their fore-fathers, but then again what do you expect from a completely Americanised British culture and too many World War 2 movies/games, along with a false sense of entitlement left over from the notion of a British Empire?
The time to wake the hell up has come and gone. The alarm bells should have been ringing when the financial system nearly collapsed, but it looks like we are all happy to march to the drum-beats of the elite.
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Iran has every right to their nuclear power or even nukes. Infact it balances things out over there.
The double standards of the west is so annoying! Let other nations go through their development. Lets not forgot the only nation to ever use nukes.
Are we led to believe that America doesn't want Iran to repeat its mistakes?
The double standards of the west is so annoying! Let other nations go through their development. Lets not forgot the only nation to ever use nukes.
Are we led to believe that America doesn't want Iran to repeat its mistakes?
Yay for more "The UK should STFU" rhetoric \o/ Honestly, you would almost forget this board was ocUK. Put down your Guardian's people and go and post on Liberty's website if you have such feelings, i'm sure they would welcome you with open arms.
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While they are signatories of the NPT they don't.
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Israel being wiped off the map is a refuted statement but please don't let that stop you.
Iran has been a democracy in the past but at that time it did not suit our purposes because the cheeky little devils wanted control over their own oil supply.
The US funded/helped/aided the arrest of the then president and control went to the reigning Shah under influence from the west.
This Shah was overthrown in 1979, the "Islamic Revolution", an Iran started on its anti US/west footing.
The US then backed the neighbour of Iran who then started a war with Iran, that little fellow was called Saddam Hussein, you may have heard of him.
Iran in recent history has not fought an aggressive war, has not invaded another nation state yet we are supposed to be the "good guys" by threatening them with violent aggression if they do not stop their legally allowed use of nuclear power.
Please don't forget that under the NNPT we are supposed to help any other country trying to use nuclear energy power production, which we are not doing, and also to reduce our stocks of nuclear weapons and not to produce more, which we are not doing. Can you imagine the reaction in the UK if Iran told us we couldn't have any more oil but Iran will supply us with the oil/kerosen/petrol/diesel/plastics that we require, I am sure we would say yes thanks thats a great idea.
Israel being wiped off the map is a refuted statement but please don't let that stop you.
Iran has been a democracy in the past but at that time it did not suit our purposes because the cheeky little devils wanted control over their own oil supply.
The US funded/helped/aided the arrest of the then president and control went to the reigning Shah under influence from the west.
This Shah was overthrown in 1979, the "Islamic Revolution", an Iran started on its anti US/west footing.
The US then backed the neighbour of Iran who then started a war with Iran, that little fellow was called Saddam Hussein, you may have heard of him.
Iran in recent history has not fought an aggressive war, has not invaded another nation state yet we are supposed to be the "good guys" by threatening them with violent aggression if they do not stop their legally allowed use of nuclear power.
Please don't forget that under the NNPT we are supposed to help any other country trying to use nuclear energy power production, which we are not doing, and also to reduce our stocks of nuclear weapons and not to produce more, which we are not doing. Can you imagine the reaction in the UK if Iran told us we couldn't have any more oil but Iran will supply us with the oil/kerosen/petrol/diesel/plastics that we require, I am sure we would say yes thanks thats a great idea.
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Iranians aren't Arabs you ignorant pleb.
I'm perfectly happy to be corrected but my understanding is that
France has offered to process their uranium into a form that is suitable for use in power production, they have not taken France up on this offer.
We haven't produced any warheads for some years.
We have reduced our total number of warheads, have entirely removed them from the RAF inventory, and have reduced the number of warheads that are loaded into each missile and have reduced the number of missiles loaded into each submarine before it goes on patrol.
So basically we still have them, but we also choose who we think should be allowed them. When did we assume control of the world .. ?
That is the long and the short of it. Do you honestly think it is a good idea for lots of nations to have nukes?
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From a Western point of view, no. From everyone else's point of view, yes .
No, they shouldn't exist and we should get rid of every one of ours, same with America. However, what really grates me is how we're allowed them and others aren't. Nobody/everybody in my opinion.
Imagine if it was Iran who had the nukes and it was us being told we're not allowed them, how would you feel? The whole situation is ridiculous, I honestly don't see where the US/UK get their superiority complex from
The very fact that they exist and we have some tells me that we'd be happy to use them one day in the future, which to me is absolutely disgusting.
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I think nukes are a good thing though, in that they are the greatest direct threat to any Government and prevent full scale warfare from happening.
However, I don't think you can or should supress another country's technological development not that anyone ever acts on the basis of 'can' or 'should', they'll still try.