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i7-975 boxes
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By lasting longer, do you mean physically, or market-wise? Market-wise, i think the extra 600MHz would definitely give it a "life" boost of a few months before its becomes grossly obsolete. As for physical life, meh you're probably right. Although i'd like to think the extra 500 quid would be going towards prolonged useability!
As for the future-proofing, you're 100% correct. You can't win, so make the best of what you got, i say.
Id say my 920 x58 system will keep me going for a few years now, last rig was an intel q9550 on a p45 board, awesome quick system, could have lasted another year or so, but i got the upgrade bug, i7 was the top platform to go far, and im extremely glad i did, being primarily a gamer i have the option of xfire or sli at full blown x16, very nice at my res of 1920x1200, no other platform could offer this, that and the fact that a 4ghz i7 encodes video files so quickly, 6 minutes to convert an avi to dvd, my dvd drive takes 20 mins to burn the disk.
Sounds like a pretty sweet setup! I'd still prefer the 975 though - just for maximum performance really. Already got quite a few of the components, which i suppose i'll make a thread about tomorrow to see if they're all going to work correctly. Ah well, cheers for the help guys, you've definitely got me thinking. Although, i won't be doing any video encoding/editing on the pc, just in it for the graphical bliss. Any further suggestions would be greatly welcomed! But for now, g'night y'all.
Dont buy a 975 mate, a 920 DO is all you need, you say your not encoding, not sure what kind of graphical work your doing, perhaps rendering 3d? If so, i7 is the top choice, but the 975 isnt gonna offer a big performance difference, get the 920 DO and overclock it beyond 975 speeds, the beauty is you get extra performance for free (well you might need a better cpu coler), iits a win situation, and it saves you cash for other bits, or a good night out.
You've missed my point. Processors don't really die, there are pentium 2s kicking around these boards. They're woefully incapable of running todays software, but quite capable of doing anything they could do when new. I think most are now in firewalls. If I don't sell or throw my i7 away it'll probably be running an outdated copy of linux in a few decades time.
More important is that the extra 600mhz is much less than 600. Unless you're using watercooling and spend a lot of time on it, a 975 and a 920 run at exactly the same speed. You're spending the extra money on no performance increase whatsoever.
This is assuming you're on overclockers.co.uk because the frankly trivial process of overclocking an i7 doesn't fill you with terror.
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i7 overclocking ive found is actually easier than s775, i started on a 680i (not a great choice ill admit), 3.7ghz from an e6600 dual core, board wouldnt clock my q6600 for love nor money, got an asus p5q dlx p45, 3.8ghz from the same quad with relative ease (would have went higher on water cooling), sold the q6600 and got a q9550, 3.8ghz on little over stock volts of 1.200, (to lazy to clock it higher). Since went to i7, easiest clocking setup ive ever owned (i still class myself as a clocking noob). Overclocking the i7 isnt really that hard if you read up on it, my avice is, find a guide for your kit, read it, and read it a few times more.
No offence, but only an idiot would buy a 975 over a 920. Only reason why I brought my QX (these retailed at the same costs as the 975) is that I brought a cherry picked one from Cupra (who recieved his free to review) @ £300. At the time, these chips consistently overclocked better than the popular Q* series and 9* varients.
Buying high end cooling over the difference in CPU's would be much better in terms of future proofing.
I don't want to tell you how to spend you ££, but the only people who use 975's are competitive overclockers who:
a) - get them for free
b) - use either phase / liquard nitrogen to complete quick 3D Mark & Super PI benches
Do not be fooled by intel's evil marketing. They want you to belive that more expensive = better!
If you are dead set on dropping that cash on a chip wait for the 32nm i7.
Buying high end cooling over the difference in CPU's would be much better in terms of future proofing.
I don't want to tell you how to spend you ££, but the only people who use 975's are competitive overclockers who:
a) - get them for free
b) - use either phase / liquard nitrogen to complete quick 3D Mark & Super PI benches
Do not be fooled by intel's evil marketing. They want you to belive that more expensive = better!
If you are dead set on dropping that cash on a chip wait for the 32nm i7.
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Yeah, seriously. Only extreme overclockers buy 975s, or people who want big e-peens. There's just no need otherwise.
Building a PC is about balancing the budget, so you get the best overall machine possible. Spunking a load of cash on a part that's barely better than the common choice ain't a good way of balancing that budget.
Building a PC is about balancing the budget, so you get the best overall machine possible. Spunking a load of cash on a part that's barely better than the common choice ain't a good way of balancing that budget.
Okay, okay, so its now between the i7 920 and the new i9. I suppose what i could do is just buy in the rest of my pc just now, and by the time that's finished, the core i9 should be seeing a release date on the horizon. And yes, i will be overclocking, just not too much-nothing worse than frying a grand's worth of processor. I'll check out the good guides on here. Thanks you lot!
And yes, i will be overclocking, just not too much-nothing worse than frying a grand's worth of processor. I'll check out the good guides on here. Thanks you lot!
If i where you id get the 920.For me it gets to a point of diminishing returns.you can get the 920 for £210 or the 975 for £785 for just a few % performance increase.I would just bank the extra £550 and then sell your 920 when the new I9 arrives(Id wait a week or 2 after they are released for the price to stabalise) Then you have a good chunk of money for your new CPU.
PS What is your rig to be used for
IIRC i think the 930 is due to be released at the end of Feb that will replace the 920 .It is supposed to be at the same price point.I think its clocked slightly higher at 2.8 as well as probably a few other revisions(power saving etc).If it is released then there may be some bargains to be had on the existing 920 stock.(Hopefully)
PS What is your rig to be used for
IIRC i think the 930 is due to be released at the end of Feb that will replace the 920 .It is supposed to be at the same price point.I think its clocked slightly higher at 2.8 as well as probably a few other revisions(power saving etc).If it is released then there may be some bargains to be had on the existing 920 stock.(Hopefully)
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Also, I highly doubt you will still be keeping your 975 when that extra 300+MHz, IF you get an extra 300MHz, begins to show. How can I put it...? You have a Quad core running at 12GHz in total.. I know that isn't true, but I’m talking theoretical. However, a 12GHz Q series CPU.. still operates at 12Ghz total, but there is a HUGE difference between that Q series and an i series CPU. It's the technology that makes a difference NOT the OC. Yes it makes a difference when you OC 30-50%, but not an 3-5%.
Saying you a are buying a 975, is like saying hey I just brought a Ferrari for 200k, I’m gonna now buy an exhaust for 700k. So I can get an extra 1mph. So in a years time everyone will have the new Ferrari and it will be capable of 50mph more.
If i where you id get the 920.For me it gets to a point of diminishing returns.you can get the 920 for £210 or the 975 for £785 for just a few % performance increase.I would just bank the extra £550 and then sell your 920 when the new I9 arrives(Id wait a week or 2 after they are released for the price to stabalise) Then you have a good chunk of money for your new CPU.
PS What is your rig to be used for
IIRC i think the 930 is due to be released at the end of Feb that will replace the 920 .It is supposed to be at the same price point.I think its clocked slightly higher at 2.8 as well as probably a few other revisions(power saving etc).If it is released then there may be some bargains to be had on the existing 920 stock.(Hopefully)
Yeah, i'm starting to cave to to all your die-hard support of the 920
The computer is really just for a massive e-peen; Benchmarking, and then gaming into the semi-distant future. I'm just sick of the pc i have right now ( Packard Bell iMedia 8500T, shudder ), so i thought i should just go crazy. But i am definitely considering the 920 now, it fits the bill nicely Any idea where i could get a good deal on it once the 980x is released?Can you give us a 'release date'? Day/week/month?
Id just shop around when they are released.Most etailers will want to clear the old 920 stock i would imagine.They may even get good deal if they buy the 920 in bulk now as the 930 is just around the corner so they may pass the deal on
Prices usually take a few days to stabalise when a new CPU is released as they see what everyone else is pricing them at
Prices usually take a few days to stabalise when a new CPU is released as they see what everyone else is pricing them at
Hint Hint We have it now and its awesome and ready and tested and waiting for you to buy it for the low low price of ??????
Id just shop around when they are released.Most etailers will want to clear the old 920 stock i would imagine.They may even get good deal if they buy the 920 in bulk now as the 930 is just around the corner so they may pass the deal on
Prices usually take a few days to stabalise when a new CPU is released as they see what everyone else is pricing them at
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