*** The 2010 Gym Rats Thread ***

I find I get a better contraction with DB's, especially when the rep slows during the toughest point. Whilst it's a press it's almost a very small flye movement I find that works best. I've used bars for a while now so might hope back over to DB's. Hmmmmm.

I've been trying to find the correct position to really use primarily chest muscle when using the bar. Think I need to have some practise as I find triceps are kicking in too much. Could be to do with the width of my grip. I can still feel it but only really on the 2" and below from my chest.
 
I think its convenience X High reps with the dumbells: 30 rep sets on anything below the 50's. I don't always have or make time for a bar when doing shrugs though there is never any problem with grip when approaching 150k. Saying that I still have the rotater cuff problem so I''d be better off with the dumbells at the moment then work my way back up to heavier weight on the bar when its improved.
 
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I've been trying to find the correct position to really use primarily chest muscle when using the bar. Think I need to have some practise as I find triceps are kicking in too much. Could be to do with the width of my grip. I can still feel it but only really on the 2" and below from my chest.

That sounds about right tbh, once you get above a certain point its mainly your tris which move the weight, so I find to hit chest more just do half reps to keep triceps out as much as possible. Arch your back and pull your shoulder blades in.
 
That sounds about right tbh, once you get above a certain point its mainly your tris which move the weight, so I find to hit chest more just do half reps to keep triceps out as much as possible. Arch your back and pull your shoulder blades in.

Aye, something I've been consciously trying to do is minimalise shoulder involvement from the press.

Just seems the half reps don't really seem to be doing a great deal. Perhaps I need more weight as my triceps are probaly the weak point in the lift for me once I begin to fatigue.

I'll have a fiddle about before my working sets tomorrow and see if I can figure it out.
 
Why is this?

If you don't, most supps are fast absorbed and will just be partially if absorbed at all. With food it slows down the rate of absorption meaning that a bigger concentration (amount) of the mineral is able to be taken in rather than just whizzing through your body. To get a decent amount absorbed you'll either have to take a silly amount, or take lots throughout the day. To give you the best chance of absorption take them with food as your body will be in the optimal state to absorb nutrients.
 
Can someone tell me why it is that common misconceptions about resistance training are so, well common!?

Chatting to mates down the local on Friday night, conversation moves to gym activities and a couple chip in with how they want to get some 20kg dumbells for at home so they can get toned. I try to explain why there really is not such thing as tone, you've got fat and muscle, you need more muscle or less fat end of. Cue 10 minutes or arguing that light weight for high reps = tone.
Same thing occurs whenever I say I'm using weight training (and HIIT) to lose weight, don't I know I should just do 20 minutes of LISS? Any weight training I will get huge and muscley in 3 months DUH!!

Its so frustrating to hear it, its crazy that this stuff has become so ingrained in peoples brains but is also so untrue. And I can't even win the argument because they ask where I learnt such things, ofcourse I have to reply with 'The Internet' so they just rant that its full of WoW nerds and I'm full of ****.


In other news, decent enough session in the gymnasium. Down to 119kg now (started at 128 early Dec) and bench press is up to 65kg, boom boom POW!.
 
Its so frustrating to hear it, its crazy that this stuff has become so ingrained in peoples brains but is also so untrue. And I can't even win the argument because they ask where I learnt such things, ofcourse I have to reply with 'The Internet' so they just rant that its full of WoW nerds and I'm full of ****.

Have you not heard that fat can turn to muscle through the process of fatmosis? :p

Yeah I tend not to inform people unless they already seem quite clued up, not worth wasting my words on them most the time.
 
Have you not heard that fat can turn to muscle through the process of fatmosis? :p

Yeah I tend not to inform people unless they already seem quite clued up, not worth wasting my words on them most the time.

Ah yes fatmosis! Also, did you know that muscle turns into fat really quickly when you stop training. Just look at old bodybuilders now DUH! It obviously has nothing to do with the fact they're still eating 4000kcals of steak a day :p.
 
Have you not heard that fat can turn to muscle through the process of fatmosis? :p

Yeah I tend not to inform people unless they already seem quite clued up, not worth wasting my words on them most the time.

I had a hard time trying to talk to a class mate. He started buying mammoth weight gainer.

It's over 1200calories a serving and the guys drinking it with every meal.

he just refuses to believe that it's impossible to just gain muscle from drinking it, and he firmly believes you can turn fat into muscle later "IF" he somehow gains fat from it all.

I look forward to seeing the "blob" later in the year.
 
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I used Mammoth many years ago and thought it was a pretty decent weight gainer. People will disagree, but at the time I got some decent results using it.

All depends on the rest of your diet and training :)
 
I avoid getting into any sort of training discussion with anyone, apart from about 3 or 4 good mates who I know will listen to what I'm saying rather than just trying to argue the common misconceptions
 
He does no training though, and I'd say taking it five times a day will make you fat even if you trained.

That'll be hilarious to say "I told you so" in a few months/years time when he's either trying to work it off, or has to put up with being a fat mess.
 
If you don't, most supps are fast absorbed and will just be partially if absorbed at all. With food it slows down the rate of absorption meaning that a bigger concentration (amount) of the mineral is able to be taken in rather than just whizzing through your body. To get a decent amount absorbed you'll either have to take a silly amount, or take lots throughout the day. To give you the best chance of absorption take them with food as your body will be in the optimal state to absorb nutrients.

Interesting!
 
I try not to talk about training and diet and nutrition with people who have no understanding. I'm happy to impart my knowledge and experience to those receptive for this sort of thing, but more often than not people seem to want to believe what they believe, and just carry one with their diets and lifestyles because "it's always worked for me". And then wonder why in over a year's worth of training, they've not gained any strength or muscle mass.

If you're new to training and nail your dietary requirements for intensive hard core training within the first couple of years of training you should achieve at least a 50% increase in lifts.

If you're not sweating or feeling tired and dead then you're also not training enough! :D (But I'm old school :o).
 
See this is why I avoid discussing it with the majority of people I know as they think I have issues when I call wanting to throw up and pass out at the same time a dam good workout :D
 
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