Icelandic Volcanic Eruption - Significant Disruption to UK Flights

antijoke · 15 Apr 2010 at 14:25

We come home and go to work and go next weekend. :/

clv101 said:
From the information we have it seems very unlikely you'll be flying anywhere tomorrow.

Are you in the aviation industry?

We were supposed to be going from Luton. I can see tomorrow being a very boring day!

clv101 · 15 Apr 2010 at 14:26

dave_beast said:
Satellite loop showing ash clouds coming in from the NE across the North Sea

http://www.sat24.com/image.ashx?country=gb

How do you know it's ash clouds? More likely that image is just showing regular water clouds?

Le_Petit_Lapin · 15 Apr 2010 at 14:28

You can move many services into 'the cloud' but clearly aviation isn't one.

Amp34 · 15 Apr 2010 at 14:28

neodude said:
Totally surreal at Aberdeen Airport. Total silence, nothing at all on radar. There was a light aircraft about half an hour ago to the south and I was willing him to contact me so that i would have something to do, lol.

Should have contacted him! I could just imagine the suprise if the conversation went something like..

You "Hi, this is abedeen airport are you ok"
Him "Yes i'm fine thanks"
*short pause*
You "So... what did you have for breakfast...?"
Him "Eh.. Don't you have anything better to do?"
You "Actually... nope.. i'm bored..."

Kristoph · 15 Apr 2010 at 14:29

On the flight radar 24 link, there's a plane in central london, "MSAIRZ" - I thought everything was grounded?

Le_Petit_Lapin · 15 Apr 2010 at 14:30

There appears to be a naughty private jet currently flying just south of London, on that flightradar site.

dave_beast · 15 Apr 2010 at 14:30

clv101 said:
How do you know it's ash clouds? More likely that image is just showing regular water clouds?

It's not behaving how water based clouds do, and there's hardly any moisture there as per latest water vapour Satellite image

http://www.west-cheshire.ac.uk/mob/2_wcim.jpg

Strife212 · 15 Apr 2010 at 14:33

"Spot the CIA Rendition flights!"

Kristoph · 15 Apr 2010 at 14:34

Le_Petit_Lapin said:
There appears to be a naughty private jet currently flying just south of London, on that flightradar site.

http://www.airframes.org/reg/msair

Cool website

dave_beast · 15 Apr 2010 at 14:40

According to NATS website (holding page due to heavy traffic, unsurprisingly), the UK no-fly zone will now be in place until at least 0600 (local) Friday morning. Further review of the situation will be undertaken at 2000 (local) this evening.

tntcoder · 15 Apr 2010 at 14:40

BBC now saying everythings off till 6am BST tomorrow earliest.

On the plus side, it's really good for me as I get out of a thesis meeting ive not done the work for

Amp34 · 15 Apr 2010 at 14:41

Le_Petit_Lapin said:
There appears to be a naughty private jet currently flying just south of London, on that flightradar site.

Escaping the country before the chaos?

clv101 · 15 Apr 2010 at 14:43

You can't identify ash clouds by taking a picture, not in visible in IR or any other band.

You have to take the brightness temperature difference between the ~11 and ~12 micron bands. In a normal atmosphere, there is greater absorption at 12 microns than 11 micros, so when you subtract the brightness temperature at 12 from that at 11 you get a +ve number.

When ash (or actually the silicates associated with the ash cloud) is present there is greater absorption at the 11 micron band than 12 so subtracting the BT at 12 from 11 now gives a -ve number and hence there is ash.

DannyDan · 15 Apr 2010 at 14:44

Amp34 said:
Escaping the country before the chaos?

Disappeared now, RIP.

n111ck · 15 Apr 2010 at 14:48

So does Scotland smell of rotten egg now?

A pleasant change I'd imagine.

ben90 · 15 Apr 2010 at 14:48

What makes me laugh is there will undoubtedly be people complaining and blaming the airport and companies etc.

Django x2 · 15 Apr 2010 at 14:49

I had an eruption yesterday too......didn't close any airports though

lookitsjonno · 15 Apr 2010 at 14:49

bloody BA

dave_beast · 15 Apr 2010 at 14:50

clv101 said:
You can't identify ash clouds by taking a picture, not in visible in IR or any other band.

You have to take the brightness temperature difference between the ~11 and ~12 micron bands. In a normal atmosphere, there is greater absorption at 12 microns than 11 micros, so when you subtract the brightness temperature at 12 from that at 11 you get a +ve number.

When ash (or actually the silicates associated with the ash cloud) is present there is greater absorption at the 11 micron band than 12 so subtracting the BT at 12 from 11 now gives a -ve number and hence there is ash.

It's a process of elimination really, if there's a cloud bank visible on IR and VIS but hardly any WV in the water vapour bands, plus this is where synoptics have forecast it to be, so it's highly likely that's what it is.

LLBDTiberio · 15 Apr 2010 at 14:52

This is just insane lol, got friends stuck on the continent!
This is the beginning of the end I tell you!