Poll: *** 2010 General Election Result & Discussion ***

[platypus]

Shush. Anyone that points that out or disagrees with the bloke is considered 'a troll' and 'stupid/thick' etc

He prefers you not to discuss his 'facts'. (and don't ask him what 'anecdotal evidence' means )

You are a troll.

 

[Squark]

What makes you say that?

It was a very close LibDem/Con seat but this time Labour show a massive drop and LibDems a large rise

 

[muon]

So? Coalition government has been proven to be successful in many parliaments, including some of the strongest economies in the world: the Nordic countries, Benelux, Austria, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Switzerland, Japan, Turkey, Israel, New Zealand, Kosovo, Pakistan, Kenya, and India.

Do you know why coalitions exist? I'd have thought the present situation in the UK would have told you.

Its to solve hung Parliaments.

In all these countries with PR they effectively end up with 2 parties.

In a 2 party system you always have a majority. Look to the US as an example of that.

 

[britboy4321]

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So? Coalition government has been proven to be successful in many parliaments, including some of the strongest economies in the world: the Nordic countries, Benelux, Austria, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Switzerland, Japan, Turkey, Israel, New Zealand, Kosovo, Pakistan, Kenya, and India.

And THERE'S the change. I knew it was soon coming

See his change from 'PR does not cause hung parliaments/coalition governments' to 'Coalition governments are plenty strong enough anyway so it's cool'? Subtle .. and funny ..

THERE'S the argument change. I know it was coming. Fantastic, he can't do 'PR doesn't cause hung parliaments' so he's gone to 'Coalitions ain't that bad anyways' all in one little tidy paragraph. If you can't win the fight, change the fight eh?

I love it. Shall we argue about the pros and cons of coalitions rather then whether PR causes them or not now Platypus? Would that be better for ya? Easier? hoho

 

[oldbag]

So is Labour going to do a deal with Lib-dems and attempt to carry on? Will it succeed, or will we see another general election any time soon?

 

[Deleted member 651465]

Can we shut up about anecdotal evidence? (http://www.google.co.uk/search?aq=1...d=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=define+anecdotal+evidence)

I want to know if Gordo is stepping down or if he's going to go down fighting..

 

[RDM]

It was a very close LibDem/Con seat but this time Labour show a massive drop and LibDems a large rise

There were large drops for Labour in many constituences, it vaired quite a bit. Large rises for Lib Dems were less common though. It seems that people didn't really want the change that the Lib Dems were promising. Wonder how long Nick Clegg has got as leader?

 

[Le_Petit_Lapin]

And THERE'S the change. I knew it was soon coming

See his change from 'PR does not cause hung parliaments/coalition governments' to 'Coalition governments are plenty strong enough anyway so it's cool'? Subtle .. and funny ..

THERE'S the argument change. I know it was coming. Fantastic, he can't do 'PR doesn't cause hung parliaments' so he's gone to 'Coalitions ain't that bad anyways'.

I love it.

But Coalitions Aren't neccessarily a bad thing.

 

[squerble]

Can we shut up about anecdotal evidence? (http://www.google.co.uk/search?aq=1...d=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=define+anecdotal+evidence)

I want to know if Gordo is stepping down or if he's going to go down fighting..

Of course he will go down fighting; the horrible man just won't leave us alone.

 

[Deleted member 651465]

So is Labour going to do a deal with Lib-dems and attempt to carry on? Will it succeed, or will we see another general election any time soon?

326 seats are needed..

Conservatives have 301
Labour have 255
Lib Dems have 55

So.. 255 + 55 = 310

 

[platypus]

And THERE'S the change. I knew it was soon coming

See his change from 'PR does not cause hung parliaments/coalition governments' to 'Coalition governments are plenty strong enough anyway so it's cool'? Subtle .. and funny ..

THERE'S the argument change. I know it was coming. Fantastic, he can't do 'PR doesn't cause hung parliaments' so he's gone to 'Coalitions ain't that bad anyways'.

I love it.

What on earth are you talking about? There is no change. PR doesn't cause hung parliaments, and coalition governments are a successful method of government. I have never said PR doesn't create coalition governments, because thats exactly what it does create, and in many countries has been proven to be a strong method of governance. You're spouting crap, as usual.

 

[RDM]

And THERE'S the change. I knew it was soon coming

See his change from 'PR does not cause hung parliaments/coalition governments' to 'Coalition governments are plenty strong enough anyway so it's cool'? Subtle .. and funny ..

THERE'S the argument change. I know it was coming. Fantastic, he can't do 'PR doesn't cause hung parliaments' so he's gone to 'Coalitions ain't that bad anyways' all in one little tidy paragraph. If you can't win the fight, change the fight eh?

I love it.

Did you read post 3062 for a better explanation of Australian politics? Or would you want to ingore that little bit of reality so you can keep playing your pathetic childish troll games?

 

[muon]

But Coalitions Aren't neccessarily a bad thing.

So you want the LD to form a permanent coalition with Cons or Lab? Thats what has happened in Australia.

 

[oldbag]

326 seats are needed..

Conservatives have 301
Labour have 255
Lib Dems have 55

So.. 255 + 55 = 310

Yes, but they can also attempt to rope in "the others", probably not easy to do.

 

[Jono8]

huh ? its been in the labour manifesto for years. admittedly theyve had years to do something about too but didnt :/

Exactly my point.

 

[muon]

What on earth are you talking about? There is no change. PR doesn't cause hung parliaments, and coalition governments are a successful method of government. I have never said PR doesn't create coalition governments, because thats exactly what it does create, and in many countries has been proven to be a strong method of governance. You're spouting crap, as usual.

Do you know why coalition governments exist?

Once you realise because otherwise you have a hung Parliament, you've come to the end of the thought process.

Its like saying bacteria doesn't cause an infection because I have antibiotics to solve the problem.

 

[Slam62]

Yes, but they can also attempt to rope in "the others", probably not easy to do.

maybe the tories think it's either their way or the highway.

election in June?

 

[Le_Petit_Lapin]

So you want the LD to form a permanent coalition with Cons or Lab? Thats what has happened in Australia.

I dont really give a toss at long as I dont have to put up with the one eyed **** in power anymore. Would prefer Con, obviously.

 

[muon]

I dont really give a toss at long as I dont have to put up with the one eyed **** in power anymore. Would prefer Con, obviously.

You haven't understood the conversation. You can't apply the thought to this one election alone. This will be a permanent change to how elections are done in this country.

 

[britboy4321]

What on earth are you talking about? There is no change. PR doesn't cause hung parliaments, and coalition governments are a successful method of government. I have never said PR doesn't create coalition governments, because thats exactly what it does create, and in many countries has been proven to be a strong method of governance. You're spouting crap, as usual.

A summary:

1) I say 'PR causes hung parliaments'
2) Australian bloke says 'no it doesn't, check out Australia'
3) I say 'that's anecdotal evidence'
4) You say .. 'er .. no it isn't Britboy you are stupid and WRONG it's fact .. Check out these facts
5) Lots of people say 'er .. your facts look riddled with hung parliaments!'
6) I spend 2 hours explaining what 'anecdotal evidence' actually is to you and what it means
7) You say 'Well .. er .. er .. PR DOES cause hung parliaments, obviously. Coalitions are cool by the way (!!)'
8) We all lol and move on. Thanks for playing.