Erm, I think you are getting incredibly confused as to who needs what. It is extremely unlikely that Labour really have any say on a coalition between Cameron and Clegg were to go ahead.
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Erm, I think you are getting incredibly confused as to who needs what. It is extremely unlikely that Labour really have any say on a coalition between Cameron and Clegg were to go ahead.
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Thats what I said, I didn't say it wouldn't be a minority, just that the simple fact is Torys DID win the election and this was clear days ago, everything else is just, well, backroom deals, thats not the election, that was over with days ago. I also pointed out, that the PM has the right to try and form a majority goverment if there isn't a majority in the election.
Its actually not right at all, I think the ability to do so was rather put into the constitution more as a get out clause, what if Labour and Torys got 300 seats each, there needs to be a way to sort it out.
The spirit of the law/constitution is that Torys should be in power, on their own, with no interfering. The letter of the law might be slightly different, but it feels like its being misused and is there to give a way out in a completely bizarre circumstance. A minority government might suck, but thats what we voted for.
If this lib dem stuff is true, I'm sickened how the party with by far the least power has basically held BOTH leading parties basically to ransom.
Its blackmail, give us this or we'll go join the other guys, its completely against what we voted for, its awful for the country but at least shows them for what they are, power hungry idiots, not some bleeding heart liberals that only want the best for the country and only want a truly fair PR system. Torys and Labour are like that too but no one thinks otherwise.
Somehow Lib Dems are seen as these do gooders who only have our best interests at heart.
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Is it possible that Lord Mandelson has whacked David Miliband and his cadaver is being carted off in the back of a car Goodfellas style ?
This just to ' help ' the leadership election along.
The Tories have no equivalent to the Triple Lock so don't need 75%. Also remember there are 19 current cabinet positions, so even if it is 6 Lib Dem ministers (which I doubt), I'd expect most of those to be in minor positions.
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Rumors were we offered them 4 positions: Foreign, Education, Transport and Business.
I hope Labour in their period of opposition kick out Peter Mandelson and Alastair Campbell, both vile people.
This could be a smart move by the Tories, maybe this is a under-the-table tactic to absorb the right-leaning LD's into the tory party so by the time the next election comes round LD's are a shell of a party. Making it a 2 horse race again with the Tories being a massive force
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The only one of those I wouldn't mind would be education. The Lib-Dems aren't exactly business friendly, certainly not road user friendly (perhaps no more fuel stabiliser?
) and Hague would make a brilliant foreign sectary. Just shove them in the meaningless posts like Energy or Environment.A LibDem education secretary would go down well with the teachers unions and suchlike I'm sure.
Why are so many teachers lib dem supporters do you think? It is a career I am just starting to study towards and so will obviously have to avoid any discussion of politics in the future
Foreign!? That would be a surprise. Gove has already offered his seat so that's no great surprise and Business is a fairly natural end place for Cable but Transport seems an odd one given the gap between the two parties policies in that area.
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A LibDem foreign sec? No way!!!!
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Erm...of course they do. The best they could have done was formed a minority Government that wouldn't pass a law in a million years because the other parties would vote against them. Try getting a clue?
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Agreed.
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The only one of those I wouldn't mind would be education. The Lib-Dems aren't exactly business friendly, certainly not road user friendly (perhaps no more fuel stabiliser?
No way not transport minister
1709: The BBC's business editor Robert Peston says he has learned some of the likely elements of a joint Con-Lib economic and business policy. The £6bn of spending cuts promised this year by the Tories would go ahead, unless the economy were to dramatically weaken. The Tories would also adopt the Lib Dem plan to increase the tax-free allowance on income tax to £10,000. A meaningful initial rise in the allowance would come quickly, with a clear timetable announced to get to the full £10,000.
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Hague should be Foreign Secretary
Clegg for the Home Office
Cable for Business as they won't let him be Chancellor
Clegg for the Home Office
Cable for Business as they won't let him be Chancellor
It's quite shocking, over the past few days i've noticed that the right-leaning members here are much more on the ball. Don't the flapcap brigade stream BBC news, or is it a a-bit-much-all-this-ta-internet-melarky
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Sorry but wasn't what I said or what you asked, you asked why do they HAVE to form a coalition, not why do they HAVE to form a coalition FOR A MAJORITY?
You can't move the goal post, they won the election and if Lib Dem weren't whoring/bribing/blackmailing themselves around Torys would have formed a minority government. Please show me where I talked about how effective they would be, or how they'd form a majority government.
I didn't, you said they DID not win the election and HAD to form a coalition.
Both of your statements are completely incorrect.
They both won the election and could form the government purely on the basis of having the most seats.
No, we've covered it at length, a minority government would have had a very hard time passing legislation, but not impossible(they didn't need a massive number of votes from right leaning Lib Dems, and other similar MP's to pass a few things) but that would STILL have been a government, a TOry government, and formed because they WON THE DAMN ELECTION.