*** The Official HTC Desire (Bravo) Thread! ***

I got mine on Orange and before it had even fullt charged it was debranded and running HTCs normal ROM.

Gold Carding is relatively easy and I would say with minimal risk. Its the other stuff that starts to get tricky and you may as well wait until 2.2 is available
 
I think the bricking issue is to do with rooting it, you don't need root to update with official firmwares... you only need root to out user created ones on like mocado etc.

For updating with official roms, which is what I done, you usually need a goldcard if your phone is branded.

Making a gold card is easy... which is nice :)

Someone correct me if I'm wrong! Lol

No that's my understanding of it as well. Flashing with the unbranded official rom seems pretty safe (although probably not 100% without risk). Creating a gold card should have no risk to the phone itself as you are only acting against the microsd card not the phone itself so worse case you screw up the card.
 
Glad you like it. It's easily the best converter I've used.

Can I ask what profile you're using for conversions? I tried MPEG4 H.264 and the files play with sound only, no video on the Desire. If I try using "standard" MP4 Widescreen then the conversion seems to run at a snails pace, using a fraction of the total CPU power.
 
No that's my understanding of it as well. Flashing with the unbranded official rom seems pretty safe (although probably not 100% without risk). Creating a gold card should have no risk to the phone itself as you are only acting against the microsd card not the phone itself so worse case you screw up the card.

The risk levels are the same for most things actually.

If you have to use recovery (FASTBOOT/HBOOT) to flash/root your phone, you are running the (minor) risk of bricking it.

As far as I know, you can always flash a generic rom back on to unroot the phone if you do break it, as explained in my post earlier. So if you did brick it, you can return it for repairs/refunds and so on.

The goldcard itself has nothing to do with the actual bricking, anything in recovery mode can cause the USB drivers to fail, it's not yet known why :(

As I said, if it annoys you that much, get it flashed. I'd say there's probably less risk than pushing your CPU/RAM when overclocking and so on. You'd probably still do that :p

It's also worth noting a lot of people have been using USB Hubs and they have ended up with bricked phones, so dont do anything like that. Use a direct port on your motherboard, or a laptop (incase you suffer occasional power cuts).

You might be ok doing it from Windows if you can avoid recovery, there might be a way of doing that, I'm unsure. Probably wont play ball on a branded handset though.

Edit - Some Modaco stats for people who have bricked phones.


On "bricked" population:
  • 71% was using a non-stock cable
  • 74% was using an USB hub
  • 14% was on win32, 7% on win64, 3% on linux32, 1% on linux64
  • 11% (way the most) had run 0-10 times the console before bricking, 7% 10-20 times, 3% 21-30 times

The brick problem is so small (about 60-70 devices) that the data gathering probably isn't very accurate, but you can see from there, use your stock USB cable, plug it into your motherboard, use Linux64 if you can (although that is probably because a lot more use Windows).

Your risk then would be extremely low. ;)
 
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i'm loving mine but can't believe mobile co's are giving these on a 500MB plan. i've had mine since friday and netcounter says i've used 189.9 meg so far. thankfully that's all via my home wifi. 553KB via cell.

these should come with a gig at least IMO. :o
 
i'm loving mine but can't believe mobile co's are giving these on a 500MB plan. i've had mine since friday and netcounter says i've used 189.9 meg so far. thankfully that's all via my home wifi. 553KB via cell.

these should come with a gig at least IMO. :o


lol! Glad I'm on 'unlimited'...
 
With who?

O2 most likely.

20Gb limit

Yeah O2... I've heard of people downloading over 50GB/month and not getting a warning letter... so fingers crossed :)

If their FUP limit really is 20GB then that's plenty for me... don't use it that much, but it's extremely useful for work. 5GB is probably more than enough - but the fact it's included in the contract is gooood :)

Think it's ridiculous how other providers claimed unlimited then started warning people after 500MB use! Makes me wonder why/how O2's infrastructure is so much better that they can handle the extra data that other providers can't... perhaps it's vaguely related to their link to the Be network (yes, i know internet and mobile are seperate entities... just spouting an idea)
 
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Well that's good then.

I don't tether so the 3GB from T-Mobile is perfectly fine and would do the vast majority of people.

Vodafone and Orange are just taking the **** with 500MB.
 
Vodafone and Orange are just taking the **** with 500MB.

Yeah it sucks, the 500MB limit on Orange is why I will probably end up changing to 02 when my contract is up in a couple of months even though the coverage isn't as good as Orange.
 
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It's full on bar the slightly laggy desktop (not really bad at all), and the Bluetooth/Camera/Tethering not being fully functional :p

People will be able to "man up" now and get rooted, and get flashing some roms so our development will quickly catch up to the Nexus One.

It's good stuff :D I give it a week until we have proper PROPER Froyo, maybe less.
 
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