*** The all new iPhone 4 thread - Keep all iPhone 4 stuff in here ***

Hmm order still not showing up on UPS tracking...

EDIT: gave them a call and its currently awaiting collection from Apple and will be with me tomorrow. Whoop.
 
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Skyfall said:
I don't think "form over function" really applies to android vs iphone homescreens, adding widgets and alternate launchers does a hell of a lot more than just change the look. They change the whole way you interact with the phone, they allow much more information to be viewed much quicker and more easily.

Finally, I've said it before and I'll say it again, I think the main issue that gives Android users pause in buying/recommending an iPhone is that they cannot imagine going from a very free environment on their phone to a very locked down and preset environment. It's difficult to go from screens full of useful information, custom shortcuts & icons and immediate access to program features to a phone with screen full of preset icons.
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Yes if customisation is your thing then Android all the way......http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=16702182&postcount=199
 
Tute said:
No way I could live with a resistive screen after going from my Nokia 5800 to a 3GS. It's just nowhere near as comfortable to use the internet with. I have to admit though - the rest of it wouldn't actually bother me that much.
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Resistive doesn't have to be bad. Have you tried the HD's? I had a screen protector on until a couple of weeks ago and it was fine. Took it off because it was scratched and the screen got even better. In fact a friend who has an iPhone was able to use it straight away it's that responsive.

Having said that the HD had a lot of reviews at the time stating the resistive screen in it was almost as responsive as the iPhone capacitive screen so no suprise. It also has massive benefits in other areas. On that note can you use finger nails on the iPhone to navigate? I tried it a year ago on a touch and it wouldn't work, it appears to on the Desire and X10 however.



Tute said:
Yes but define "better" - what might work for one person probably won't work for another. You cannot simply blanket state "This is better than that" when it comes to different OSes as people all have different preferences. For example, I might dislike Android - it doesn't make it necessarily any worse though as it would be mostly down to personal preference.

The main way people say that one phone is better/worse than another is through reliability and build quality, as nobody wants a phone that breaks a lot.
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Very true, and the comment can stand as it is because all said was that some are better than others at certain things. Those can be chosen by the user. :)

The two main reasons, well there are very few carp phones that break out there at the moment, same with the build quality of the top end phones. The new iPhone does have the advantage on materials though. I still don't understand why other phone manufacturers don't make their phones a bit stronger and premium.:rolleyes:


Tute said:
Being "closed" isn't as bad as everyone makes out. I certainly like it how the App Store software all... works! And whilst Apple do tend to claim they came up with features that have been in phones for a while, they also tend to polish what the iPhone has to an absolute mirror shine - which is what I love about the device.
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Imagine having a computer where you couldn't change the desktop image, change the task bar colour, that only installed programs that had gone through it's manufacturers store.. I just couldn't do it, could you? IMO as soon as the prooduct gets to you you should have full control over what you do with it, if you want to install something on to it then it's your choice where you get it from.

Lucero said:
So the only thing going for it is the fact it looks good. Great, when you consider that its going to get shoved into a gel case, or plastic backed case or glove because people won't want it getting damaged.

I had to LOL when recently in the US, I saw hundreds up knuckle draggers with their iPhones in cases like this:


Really, defeating the whole "asthetics / lovely hardware" point.
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I agree with that entirely. That also includes those leather "book" style cases that a lot of iPhone (and other phone users) have. Why are the manufacturers making phones that look nice and are as small/thin as possible when the buyers are just dumping them in massive square cases...

Just make them into a cubic shape and be done with it. :p

Scottland said:
Most of the people, most of the time. Android isn't refined or polished enough for most people. Within the tech/geek community, then yeah then Android is about on par overall.

A lot of people would struggle to do simple tasks like drag and drop music from a folder on their pc to the mobile device when it's plugged in. Whereas iTunes makes it easy for them.
The iTunes, App Store & iPhone combo enables people that are not tech savvy to be able to do lots, this is the mass appeal of the iPhone IMO, and why it still rules the roost overall.
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You mean like 99% of people do with their mp3 players, their memory sticks, cameras etc? :p

Drag and drop is far simpler than iTunes. As an anecdotal example my sister got an iPod shuffle about 2 years ago, tried to stick some songs she wanted onto it and found she couldn't (hadn't installed iTunes). She installed iTunes and tried using that, called me in and asked me why she needed to put her card details in and then almost lost it when it seemed to just randomly stick a load of songs on that she didn't want. She never used that iPod in the end, sold it on ebay. :p

She asked me for help too, but never having used it I had no clue either...
 
Skyfall said:
That's for sure, the iPhone 4 is a really nice specced phone I particularly like the touch to focus feature, it looks quite nice too, but it doesn't offer enough/anything over current/impending Android phones to justify the move from Android to iPhone OS.
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Didn't iPhones have that before?!

That is sort of an integral part of camera mode on touch screens I thought.:confused:
 
I went in to my local O2 store they have no idea on how many they are getting in apparently... I want the 32gb one. If they only have in the 16gb one I'll prob buy it but I'll be gutted :(
 
Gonna give the O2 store near me a ring in abit, Really want the 32gb.
If it's like 3G launch they had about 10 16gb ones and i was 11th in the queue :(
Also there not opening at 8 :( Gonna start queueing just gone 7 tho :D
 
Dam my orange store is getting 4 in

one carphone say there getting them in but was moody about being ask

and other other one said he dident know and thinks there only on o2

its not looking good i guess i will be in town at 8 and see if i can get one.
 
My local o2 store are saying this is the worst launch theyve ever seen. Theyve got a grand total of 7 phones in, they were expecting more today but the delivery has been and gone with no sign of any more. Even if more arrive theyre only expecting a handfull. According to the guy i was talking to Japan has been assigned the bulk of these phones due to millions of preorders for it. :eek:
 
chrisxuk said:
Good spot, missed that :( I don't think the iPhone 4 prices have been announced yet? I could be mistaken.
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Gaijin said:
Has anyone had any success ringing them off the back of this?
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Gaijin, my friend tried to give them a ring, through the consumer line and they said for him to phone back tomorrow. I think they're going through Business customers first, however, if you phone up and say you're using it for business.... cant hurt!
 
Kappa said:
Gaijin, my friend tried to give them a ring, through the consumer line and they said for him to phone back tomorrow. I think they're going through Business customers first, however, if you phone up and say you're using it for business.... cant hurt!
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Gah, will give it a try, thanks for replying mate.
 
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