Absolutely this. Sums up my thoughts exactly.
Poll: Poll: should the UK ban the islamic veil?
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I live in East London, where there is the highest population density of Muslims anywhere in the UK, and in 18 years of my life I have NEVER been confronted by a single veiled woman.
Do you work at a halal meat shop or something?
Soldato
It is broadcasting your belief to everyone. Same basis as Witness'es who knock my door trying to preach. I dont care what you do at home, but don't showcase or ram it down my throat.
However, many of us natives DO feel that way. We should not be made to feel uncomfortable in our own country by foreigners. They should fit in, or don't come here.
yes it is a western view, and proud of it. we don't force islamist to live here. if they feel strongly about it they should go live under shari'ah law in Saudi Arabia, I am not asking them to change their ways over there
How on earth is wearing a veil, shoving it down your throat. That makes absolutely no sense and is not comparable to cold callers.
Whoa there ace that's a striking spin around on your last
security based point, surely you lead with the main point not some minor sub point?
But iirc, it relates to men being weak and easily tempted, and the covering is to stop the men folk from acting like Neanderthals.
Hurrar!
To paganism!
Or can we choose to bring back the old Greek gods, they made east enders look tame.
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Soldato
Yes, I respect your westernised view, in your westernised country. With mainly westernised people.
I 100% agree.
It's pretty damn funny seeing a Mercedes with five burqa-toting women, like a squad out with a vengeance.
It's not exactly obtrusive, is it.
I'd argue one of the hallmarks of 'westernised' cultures is their tolerance and attitudes to others. Banning things for no good reason is not a 'westernised' approach. It's what I'd expect of Saudi Arabia.
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You cannot quantify how many people feel like this so saying "many" is not an argument and is not a blanket view of all us "natives".
We're not all mindless nationalists.
Soldato
If the reason is to stop the temptation of men, then surely any man who cannot withhold against their temptations should not be able to be freely walking the street.
If a man gives in to temptation against the womans authorisation, then surely it would be a case for harressment or even leading to 'rape'. I know this is strong, but maybe the religion needs to adapt to the "modern world" where making advances on your temptations is not allowed.
Since when was it the western way to force people how to dress?
That sounds like a concept you'd find in some backwards middle eastern country......
As always with these ideas the two extremes of the line are so close it may as well be circle.
And yet many of you want to legalise the sex trade, where some will do it from free will and many will still be forced into it and degraded. Yet you want that legal and this banned.
Blanket laws are utterly stupid and do nothing for the cause of the problem.
Blanket laws are utterly stupid and do nothing for the cause of the problem.
Well yeah, it calls for them (the men) to killed for it actually.
And they'd either be whipped harshly and sentenced to a long time in prison or stoned if you followed the stricter laws.
It has long ago, it said "men are easily tempted so we'll make a brutal punishment and try to remove the source of temptation at the same time"
Yeah it's not allowed, but when has the law stopped a rapist from raping someone? And who will he pick as his victim? A lady doing her shopping in morrisons dressed in a curtain or a drunk blonde walking home from a club at 4AM wearing practically nothing?
Indeed it isn't how all natives think. That's why I said 'many'
many implies a majority, can you even back that up?
Soldato
So on the same basis shall we lock up all of our children until they are 18. Just in case a peadophile is tempted, so removing the source will stop the issues at hand.