*** The 2010 Gym Rats Thread ***

reiyushin said:
Or be whatever guy makes you happy...
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It's a fair comment by you - but I'm afraid amongst my circle someone that concentrates on arms and spends little times on the big lifts carries very little respect from me and other lifters that take this seriously.

If it makes you happy, do it, but don't expect to get admired or supported by others.
 
Freefaller said:
It's a fair comment by you - but I'm afraid amongst my circle someone that concentrates on arms and spends little times on the big lifts carries very little respect from me and other lifters that take this seriously.

If it makes you happy, do it, but don't expect to get admired or supported by others.
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No I don't do it, I've not isolated my biceps in a good 3 years now.

/ranton

Where I take issue is this thing people have against the people who go to the gym to look/feel better.

Whether you are a;
  • Powerlifters trying to up your total
  • Bodybuilders trying to add mass to your lagging part
  • Treadmill guru trying to find that extra mile
  • Boy/girl who wants to look and feel better about themselves

no one has more or less claim to the gym and deserves more or less respect for doing what they're doing.

/rantoff
 
reiyushin said:
/ranton

Where I take issue is this thing people have against the people who go to the gym to look/feel better.

Whether you are a;
  • Powerlifters trying to up your total
  • Bodybuilders trying to add mass to your lagging part
  • Treadmill guru trying to find that extra mile
  • Boy/girl who wants to look and feel better about themselves

no one has more or less claim to the gym and deserves more or less respect for doing what they're doing.

/rantoff
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I agree, everyone is doing it for their own goals. Some may want to lose weight, gain weight, run a marathon, play sports or pull a jumbo. Many people in these forums seem to be aspiring bodybuilders whether it be to compete or just look good but for others it may not be practical. Everyone deserves support, especially in a gym. But each to their own
 
Fair point Reiyushin - I think most people would agree with you. I think people were just saying that 1 hour on bi's/tri's is excessive.

Anyhoo, just finished week 5 of the Stronglift's 5x5 beginner program. Things have been going OK but I missed my bench today 5,5,5,4,5 at 57.5kg :(
I think I just rushed into the fourth set without resting - couldn't get that 5th rep at all. Should do it ok next time though. Think I have a lot of stalling coming up - finding the o/h press hard and I'm only on 35kg!
Anyway I am pretty pleased with my progress so far - hopefully by the end of week 12 I should be up to BW+ on most compounds :D
 
Stronglifts is a great program, I'd not worry much about that o/h press getting hard it's a tough one and will definately be the weakest of your compounds!

Keep the the good progress :)
 
Rosbif said:
1 scotch egg and a sausage roll isn't going to make or break a diet. I'm suggesting practical solutions to the problem of fast and convenient food. I'm also going to dip my toe into the sea of controversial and suggest that for an active individual who weight lifts and has other athletic activities that a bit of transfat isn't going to kill them.

By all means if you have the time, money and facilities to plan, prepare and eat 3500-4000 calories of slow cooked wild rice along with a poached organic chicken breast 6 times a day go for it. If not, just do what you've gotta do.
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Thanks for the suggestion Rosbif but I'm looking more for something I can have regularly. While I do treat myself to a burger or sausage roll every now and again it is by no means part of what I eat day in and day out.

Also, no one has actually said anything about my food intake?
 
My gym routine starts again on Sunday. Been doing my five week mapping work for uni over the past few weeks and have had no chance to go to the gym in that time. That will change come Sunday though, where by its back to the old 7.30am gym sessions. Shame really as the five weeks of no gym visits have showed with my body size, and me finding that I can now wear clothes I havent worn in a while.
 
reiyushin said:
No I don't do it, I've not isolated my biceps in a good 3 years now.

/ranton

Where I take issue is this thing people have against the people who go to the gym to look/feel better.

Whether you are a;
  • Powerlifters trying to up your total
  • Bodybuilders trying to add mass to your lagging part
  • Treadmill guru trying to find that extra mile
  • Boy/girl who wants to look and feel better about themselves

no one has more or less claim to the gym and deserves more or less respect for doing what they're doing.

/rantoff
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Nobody has an issue with going to the gym for self improvement. Infact; most of the people here go to the gym for that very reason.

But like most people who regular these forums, we're geeks. We like to research things and maximise the efficiency and performance of our target hobby (be it computers, fitness, weightlifting, cars, phones, audio, music, whatever).

Like most geek communities, there's an aura of elitism in the atmosphere which many strive to compete and reach. It just so happens that in weightlifting, there's a strong elitism regarding workout plans and certain exercises.

For example, I'm willing to bet money that most people (elites or regulars) will consider that deadlifts, squats and bench press are probably the most important exercises for anyone wanting to gain mass. Anyone who disagrees without sufficient reasoning can be considered a "noob". Claims like this can be supported not only statistically but can be cited by hundreds of journals, books and papers.

i get ****ed off when I walk to the gym and somebody is bicep curling in the squat rack and I have to wait. Is this unwarranted? I personally don't think so.

So when someone criticises you for a different workout (in this case, heavy arm isolation), don't take it as a personal attack, take it as constructive criticism. You don't have to have 10 years of experience to know that overtraining gets you nowhere quickly.

Don't think
 
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You weren't criticising me it was literally the
Don't become that guy who has giant arms and tiny everything else
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that got me annoyed and resulted in the rant :)

My point is simply that people shouldn't be judged for their choice to ignore the big lifts and opt for the beach muscles approach.

That being said feel free to slap anyone curling in the squat rack lol
 
But why would anyone go to the gym just go bench and bicep curl. If your going to make an effort do it properly, or atleast try.

You can get so much better results by doing all the compounds, improving your entire body, as well as your arms at the same if not faster rate. This is why bicep boys annoy people in the gym so much.
 
Vanity.

Most men go to the gym to impress women.

Most women don't care how much you squatted yesterday, they do care how much your arms/pecs are. It's instantly noticeable and instantly marks you as strong and healthy.
 
maybe.
but what most men dont realise is that if they would squat and deadlift, they'd have bigger muscles to impress women .

I personally have an arms day simply because mine were always small and being tall it doesn't really help much. I think it's ok because I can afford going to the gym 4-5 times a week, and I can isolate the chest/back enough to prevent overtraining.

But I never skip my squats or deadlifts, in fact they too have separate days so that I can focus on them. I tried deadlifting heavy after squatting for 6 sets, found it quite challenging, so the deadlifts are now done in my back training day. easy. :)
 
cristi said:
maybe.
but what most men dont realise is that if they would squat and deadlift, they'd have bigger muscles to impress women .
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This

There are some positives though, most women think men who work out look like this:

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So breaking the mould is definitely a positive.
 
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