** Official ** Summer 2010 Transfer Thread - Signings, Sightings and Rumor's in Here

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Very disappointed we've resigned Aurelio. He's an excellent defender but he's never fit. We've been burning money ever since we signed him and Rafa was right to offer a player that hardly played a pay as you play contract. Now we've signed the same sick note on a full two year contract. Smacks of desperation.

If Insua stays he's going to get run ragged for another whole season without getting any rest.
 
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Pigeon_Killer said:
Very disappointed we've resigned Aurelio. He's an excellent defender but he's never fit. We've been burning money ever since we signed him and Rafa was right to offer a player that hardly played a pay as you play contract. Now we've signed the same sick note on a full two year contract :rolleyes:
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Still we got cover. If marques hasn't gone to the usa, he is good cb/dm which can actualy play the ball and not hoof it like car and the rest of our cb
 
BaZ87 said:
I'd have it the other way around.
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I'd play Insua as first choice, continue the development of the young left back who can continue to improve with experience, rather than the 30 year old Aurelio who isn't likely to get any better at this stage of his career. But then its just different managerial styles :D
 
Remember this is Aurelio we're talking about. Even if he is first choice, Insua's still going to end up playing more games that him :p
Pigeon_Killer said:
Very disappointed we've resigned Aurelio. He's an excellent defender but he's never fit. We've been burning money ever since we signed him and Rafa was right to offer a player that hardly played a pay as you play contract. Now we've signed the same sick note on a full two year contract. Smacks of desperation.
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Where have you heard that he's signed a basic 2 year deal?

If that's the case then you're right and it's a bad move. When the rumours started all the talk was he's coming on a pay as you play deal though, probably because no club were stupid enough to offer him a basic contract.

Given the financial constraints we're under, I'd be very surprised if we've done anything more than slightly improve the terms on another pay as you play deal to what was offered to him ~6 months ago.

edit: The more I think about it the more I can't make my mind up whether it's a good or bad deal. When fit he's class but even he's on a pay as you play deal and we're not burning money on him, we're still going to only have 1 LB for half the season when he's injured.

I guess only time will tell; if he stays fairly injury free (don't laugh :p) then we've got a great deal but if he has a season like last season then we're going to be left with 1 (or none at this rate) LB all season, and depending on the terms of the deal, we could be wasting a lot of money too.
 
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Ade has been told he is free to leave City.

City are after Torres, £50m bid apparently.

City really need to work on actual team dynamics and structure. Instead of just trying to get as many big names as possible and slotting them in. Or they are just going to end up like Real Madrid. A club where top quality players go to play **** and then promptly leave.
 
A two year deal doesn't mean the wage isn't effected heavily be appearances, likewise, different managers will treat players with injuries differently, one manager will play them and watch them get reinjured, even if its training and you don't know about it, if everyone who tested him said his fitness was fine and no sign of the injury, see what happens.

Infact I would suggest that no "pay as you play" deal doesn't have a length to the contract, its not like Owen will not be on contract, not get paid at all but get paid 30k for every appearance, he'll be on a 2-3 year contract and say 15-20k a week and a huge bonus for appearances.

Marquez is an absolutely brilliant player, better as defensive midfield if you ask me as he plays a bit and can pass, another "he's not spanish so he's gone" part of the Barca revolution.

Frank, no idea why you think Real have no chance, Benzema and Kaka were literally awful, appauling and useless last year but got played a lot. Mourinho is highly likely to do one of two things, drop them, or get them to play a lot better, or sell them and get better players in. He's a character that won't be pushed around while the previous guy was more of a figurehead, hoping to keep his job and keeping the money men happy.

Thats aside from the fact that Barca were a lot worse last year than the year before, worse in the league, worse in the champs league, worse football and becoming more reliant on Messi by the day. They won the league by 3 points having beaten Real twice, Real scored more and conceded more, this is excluding the fact that Real were a pretty new team with heavily underperforming players(especially in the Barca games) and who didn't know each other. All teams with massive changes play dodgey football at first, especially when the spine changed, new CB's, new central midfielders, new striker, two new wingers.

They've got a better manager, a couple better players coming in, a guy to fix the defence, and fix the problematic players. One win better and they'd have won the league.

With the old manager and no new signings Real had a honestly, 50/50 chance at the title, as do Barca, with the new manager and signings I'd probably put it 52/48 in Real's favour.
 
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A two year deal doesn't mean the wage isn't effected heavily be appearances, likewise, different managers will treat players with injuries differently, one manager will play them and watch them get reinjured, even if its training and you don't know about it, if everyone who tested him said his fitness was fine and no sign of the injury, see what happens.

Infact I would suggest that no "pay as you play" deal doesn't have a length to the contract, its not like Owen will not be on contract, not get paid at all but get paid 30k for every appearance, he'll be on a 2-3 year contract and say 15-20k a week and a huge bonus for appearances.
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Yea, I did actually know all that :confused:

And Aurelio's problem isn't 1 long standing injury, he's simply one of those players that constantly picks up little niggles mixed in with the odd ~6month injury.
 
Biz.Kid09 said:
I agree with you here and although Ireland isnt the player he used to be i think we should either loan him or try and fit him in because for next season like you say Lescott,Barry will be on there way probably so we need the youngsters who can fill the homegrown places every year eg Richards,Ireland....but you have to remember we dont just have HG players on mega wages we also have Greg Cunningham,Alex Nimley and more who are HG and are going to be played this year...so this year i hope to see Bridge,Jo,Santa Cruz,Ireland (Right price) all leave then next year Nimley,Cunningham etc will step up and take Lescott,Barry places next year.
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Theoretically that would work out fine, but realistically if those youngsters don't turn out good enough, a team looking for increased success, especially if they don't finish as high as they want to this year, maybe top 3 would be where they want to be, then I still see them wanting to replace bridge/barry/lescott, with good experienced players, and there aren't too many homegrown players that will be both good enough, count as homegrown AND be willing to leave their club as most players good enough to be bought in for a title run, will be at title competing clubs already.

I just think its shortsighted to get rid of them this year, when if it came to it and those youngsters turn out great, they can sell them next year. If the youngsters don't turn out great, and even more so if Ireland/Richards have fantastic years you have options.

But thats also the main thing as I see it, Vieira, Barry, De Jong, Zabeleta, and pretty much anyone else I can think of who would be a central player, they are all worse than Ireland, De Jongs great defensively but going forwards, not in the same league, no reason he needs to be.

Selling Ireland is a step back, unless you bring in a Fabregas, Gerrard or someone established and considered world class, Ireland could well be the next best central attacking midfielder, in a poor year with injuries and weird illnesses he put Vieira and Barry to shame in the few games he got.

I'd happily have him at Arsenal though, Richards aswell.

Wenger brought up a good point about the daft homegrown rule, its going to be hard for clubs to replace crap players, because, lets be honest who are you going to sell SWP to? I can't even imagine what wage he's on, till his contract is up he's far better financially staying at City, wheres the incentive to leave. Ok moneybags City don't care if he's not registered and doesn't turn up then goes somewhere else when the contract is up.

But say for Arsenal, I think Wenger was half waiting on Eduardo and a couple others to go maybe before signing a new keeper/cb, because if we buy one, and then can't sell say Eduardo, and end up with 26 players and can't register one, we end up paying someone 50k a week to sit on a bench because we can't register him. What if you sell Eduardo first, but then can't get a replacement, its all a bit daft having a limit, thats fairly low considering some teams play maybe 38 league, and two cup games, while others play up to 65 or so games, its nuts that realistically now having more than 25 players will be worthless and having 25 will leave the higher teams that have long cup runs in many cups and europe, will have very tired players.

Considering this years world cup excuse was "tired players" and now Chelsea, City(potentially long term) Spurs, Liverpool, Utd, Arsenal will have less players and still playing a huge number of games.

I fail to see how theses rules improve anything, at all.
 
fez said:
You are forgetting the special one. No one in their right mind would have picked inter to win the champions league but jose lead them to it. Hopefully Ozil has a liking for slightly more 'german' weather.
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actually Im not - the Real board seem to run acquisitions and other football related stuff just as much as the Manager (and with Jose openly still wanting to come back to EPL some time) Im wondering whether he will have his hands full trying to manage the board also

Will the President allow Jose to run things his way because of his talents and previous success or will the President want to have a hand in even more because of Jose's "temporary" status ..... the other thing of course is that RM have had a run on Managers recently, despite Jose's previous success no gaurentee he will last a reasonable amount of time
 
Robboftw said:
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11668_6289472,00.html

Please god pick Man Utd :( :p
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I dont understand how he hasnt been signed up by someone yet, he has a year left, he is very young, he can literally stall for a season and leave on a free and he still has his entire career ahead of him at a club for nothing.

12 million is peanuts, for clubs like united and Chelsea, you would think when faced with replacing a Paul scholes with a player who pretty much looks like he can develop into the kind of brilliant attacking midfielder Scholes was in his prime, or play Darron Gibson, you would choose the former option.
 
Exactly, I will be extremely disappointed if we don't get him to be honest.

Everyone likes a decent signing and he plays in exactly the position we need someone like that for.
 
Robboftw said:
He said he wants to win things :p

(even if its just the Carling Cup.... ;))
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Roffles:p

City really have annoyed me this summer with their policy of just throwing cash at everyone...i hope they dont even make the top 5 this season...stupid arabs:p
 
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