The Ultimate Con

[The Mad Rapper]

A conspiracy theorist ignoring sound reasoning? Well now I've seen everything.

Aah - I see. I must be a nutter and wrong then because I am open to the possibility that Governments doesn't always act in our best interests?

It's very easy for you and others to label and decry. As I've said, I haven't told any of you what to think. I posted a link to a movie and asked you to view it with an open mind. None of you can be arsed. That says far more about you then it does about me.

 

[regulus]

If you don't want to discuss/argue a topic, why have you created the thread?

Stop being daft. READ what he said. WATCH the video FIRST, THEN come and discuss the contents. Nobody watched it yet so how can it be discussed already? That is what he wanted. There, key words highlighted in capitals so you can understand too.

I don't agree or disagree with Mad Rapper, but he is wasting his time. 95% of the people posting here doesn't have the intellectual capacity to discuss the merits of the case without coming into the discussion with preconceived notions. So idiotic comments is what they resort to because everyone else is doing it. The more smart ones (only a handful) resort to wordplay to assassinate Rapper's character and dance around the material (the video in this case) presented in the OP, because they haven't watched it, or refuse to acknowledge any evidence contrasting with their 'opinions'.

In short, you're wasting your time Mad Rapper. Too many idiots around.

Personally I may watch a bit tomorrow to see if any new or interesting evidence is presented.

 

[Glaucus]

None of you are providing much of an argument either to be honest. Other than saying he's wrong.

How can we, when he has said nothing, henceseversl people asking for the key points.

 

[The Mad Rapper]

I had it on for the last twenty minutes. There was nothing captivating.

Watch it to the end.

 

[LeJosh]

It is rather late I suppose but he has asked to watch this particular film and then come back and discuss. He hassn't shared his opinion other than it's interesting.

But some people don't seem too happy that he hassn't provided his own opinion.

How can we, when he has said nothing, henceseversl people asking for the key points.

I suppose if you watched the film he'll be happy to discuss the merits and flaws of it.

Edit - That clears that up AH2. You have done already.

 

[Glaucus]

snip.

You would have a point, except for the fact many of us have discussed this before have watched these videos, have read the official reports and gone into great detail over several threads already.

 

[growse]

Stop being daft. READ what he said. WATCH the video FIRST, THEN come and discuss the contents. Nobody watched it yet so how can it be discussed already? That is what he wanted. There, key words highlighted in capitals so you can understand too.

You seriously think that wading into an internet forum at midnight, posting a 2 hour youtube video on the government being behind 9/11 (itself, becoming one of the biggest cliched troll memes on the internet), and then basically saying "What do you think of THAT! Eh?" are the actions of someone who wishes to have a sensible discussion about the evidence available and what it means?

 

[jp_bl_68]

Aah - I see. I must be a nutter and wrong then because I am open to the possibility that Governments doesn't always act in our best interests?

I never called you a nutter. I was reacting to you putting a guy on ignore for no good reason.

None of you can be arsed. That says far more about you then it does about me.

It's 2 hours long, it's going on 1am and it's almost certainly complete bs. That's why people aren't watching it right now.

 

[The Mad Rapper]

It is rather late I suppose but he has asked to watch this particular film and then come back and discuss. He hassn't shared his opinion other than it's interesting.

But some people don't seem too happy that he hassn't provided his own opinion.



I suppose if you watched the film he'll be happy to discuss the merits and flaws of it.

Edit - That clears that up AH2. You have done already.

I didn't feel the need to. I felt that if I posted my view before people watched the movie, then they'd just attack my view instead of watching the movie and forming their own.

I actually regret having posted this thread at all. I had hoped for some serious discussion, I should have known better.

Silly me.

 

[Lightnix]

To be honest I got as far as where they started trying to make out Charlie Sheen was some kind of authority of the situation and decided my brains might fall out if I continued to open my mind in such a fashion.

 

[The Mad Rapper]

I never called you a nutter. I was reacting to you putting a guy on ignore for no good reason.

I put him on ignore because I don't tolerate fools gladly. He isn't worth me risking a ban for, so I'm sure you'll recognise that was actually a sensible thing to do. Or perhaps the Mods will.

It's 2 hours long, it's going on 1am and it's almost certainly complete bs. That's why people aren't watching it right now.

That tells me all I need to know about you. It could be watched tomorrow, but you've pre-judged it already.

 

[jp_bl_68]

I didn't feel the need to. I felt that if I posted my view before people watched the movie, then they'd just attack my view instead of watching the movie and forming their own.

I think they might attack your view then be compelled to watch the movie to validate their arguments.

Posting a link and saying "Discuss" (which is pretty much what you did) invites criticism more than it invites discussion, in my experience.

 

[The Mad Rapper]

To be honest I got as far as where they started trying to make out Charlie Sheen was some kind of authority of the situation and decided my brains might fall out if I continued to open my mind in such a fashion.

You are being disingenuous. Charlie Sheen merely called a radio show and asked questions. He wasn't being held up as an authority.

 

[regulus]

You would have a point, except for the fact many of us have discussed this before have watched these videos, have read the official reports and gone into great detail over several threads already.

Oh, I've been around long enough to have read the threads on this issue. Go reread those threads without any notions and notice how 80% of the posters in the threads have no clue how to effectively argue a case and just regurgitated posts made by the more clued up posters. I'm not interested in the 'LOLL!O1ol!LO tinFIOL HATT' 'LOLLLLZZZ COINSPORCY TEORIST' posts, but the intelligently presented case effectively arguing a side. A very few posters here can do that, hence the fact that nothing is concluded as of yet as far as I'm concerned.

Personally, I'm with the 'official' story and still await a very compelling case from the 'conspiracy theorists', but I do remember reading some things from the 911 Commission Report that raised my eyebrows. No, I cannot remember right now what points that was, and I'm not going to reread at this hour to argue with anyone.

I'll watch a bit of the video tomorrow if I have a chance.

 

[jp_bl_68]

I put him on ignore because I don't tolerate fools gladly. He isn't worth me risking a ban for

Why would you risk a ban talking to him?

That tells me all I need to know about you. It could be watched tomorrow, but you've pre-judged it already.

It's been almost 10 years and I've yet to hear a good argument to support the idea that 9/11 was an inside job. I've no reason to believe this video will persuade me otherwise. Perhaps if you had said more in your op I would've postponed my judgement.

 

[regulus]

It's been almost 10 years and I've yet to hear a good argument to support the idea that 9/11 was an inside job. I've no reason to believe this video will persuade me otherwise. Perhaps if you had said more in your op I would've postponed my judgement.

The most intelligent post in here so far from the contrary side.

 

[stulid]

charlie sheen, a woman beating alcoholic

 

[benneh]

 

[The Mad Rapper]

No, I don't want to spend a quarter of the night, or fifteen years of my life, watching docs which don't present anything new.

If this thing had a number of interesting points you agreed with, you'd post them... but in reality it's probably just a meandering piece of rubbish (the first twenty minutes was).

It's a bit like a Will Self vs Richard Littlejohn radio transcript I once read. The were both on Radio 5 (I think), as they both had books out... Will Self commented on Richard Littlejohn's book, laying into it massively.

I disagree.

I thought it was fascinating:

1. The eye witness accounts that there were multiple controlled demolitions in both of the towers

2. Tower 7 being demolished with explosives (one eye witness, a fireman, stating that he could see the explosions initiating on each floor).

3. The convenient military air defence exercise scheduled at the exact same time simulating the exact same attack, which meant reports weren't taken seriously or acted upon quickly enough.

4. The footage from the school where George Bush was, in which he looked completely unsurprised when told of the news, and further, the absolute inaction of the Secret Service in removing him immediately to a safe location.

5. The clip that Able Danger informed the FBI of the existence of the supposed terrorist cells well in advance. When Lt Col Shaffer went public with the information his career was destroyed.

6. The frankly obscene restrictions placed upon the 9/11 committee by the Bush Administration which prevented them having full and unrestricted view of classified information.

etc. etc. etc.

Does each snippet prove anything in isolation? No, of course not. When viewed collectively, it's a different story. What I find fascinating is that all of the eye witness material was captured at the time. I know very well that sometimes eye witnesses get things wrong, but that many witnesses aren't all wrong.

It's worthy of further consideration IMHO.

I'm off to bed. Will check again in the morning to see what wonderful new names I've been called.

 

[Infam0us]

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