Robbo's turn around has swayed me into purchasing pes over fifa..to think about 8 pages back i had you down as a fifa fanboy
I was perhaps a little bit
In truth though, the FIFA 11 demo is better than the FIFA 11 full game, it feels paced better and the passing among other things is better too.
I'm not sure what happened with EA, but on the release day they seem to have got worried about it, and hit the panic button which was that release day patch, which in turn made the game take a step backwards toward FIFA 10.
Once you see through the shiny gloss on FIFA 11, it becomes apparent that there aren't that many changes from FIFA 10/World Cup game, just a few new animations here and there. Once you get used to those, it just becomes an annoying mess, backed up by the bugs and mass amounts of online exploiters.
The offline modes are terrible on FIFA too, the manager mode is dire compared to Master League, it just has you staring at a calendar 95% of the time.
The AI in FIFA is quite awful too, always does the same thing time and time again, it makes playing against the computer no fun at all, this is thankfully not the case on PES at all.
I think the only thing I prefer on FIFA is the penalty system, though the PES one is fine when you get used to it, it can just be a bit sensitive.
Every goal you score feels unique, where on FIFA it feels almost scripted.
I think we'll find more and more people venturing in here from the FIFA thread before long, nearly every recent post in the FIFA thread has been people complaining about something!