English League Football ** spoilers ** [30th October - 2nd November 2010]

ordinaryjoe said:
You both know exactly what I mean... Just because you are allowed to do it, it doesn't make it right. Football generally lacks sportsmanship, so maybe you are just too blind to see that it is wrong... Nani clearly hand balled it, and Gomes wrongly thought it was a free kick, as did almost everyone else. Nani took advantage of the referee's inability to keep the rules of the game. i.e. As a striker, you shouldn't be using your hands to control the ball in open play.

And stop being a patronising idiot
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The first thing you learn playing football at any level is to play to the whistle. Nani did, Gomes didn't, that's not a case of poor sportsmanship.
 
drunkenmaster said:
As for poor sportsmanship, even more laughable, I guess it was also poor sportsmanship that Kaboul or Gomez with perhaps the best view of the incident on the pitch didn't go over to the ref to let them know it was a penalty.

Penalty incident CAUSED the handball incident, infact, if the penalty is given its not even a handball because he'd be expected to pick it up to put it on the spot.

The right call was a penalty, which 9/10 times ends up as a goal, Spurs took advantage of a poor referring decision before Nani did, so to blame Nani for doing the same is just, ridiculous.
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Penalties are difficult for the referee to judge, and different people will have different opinions. Bearing in mind that it wasn't a penalty, would anyone say that Nani didn't touch the ball with his hands? No... Therefore, it was an error by the referee.

And just by saying other people lack sportmanship, that doesn't suddenly give Nani sportsmanship. If I'm playing tennis with a friend and I hit the ball slightly out and he doesn't realise, I tell him, and I think most people would, but when there's a lot of people watching and money involved, people seem to lose morals.
 
One More Solo said:
The first thing you learn playing football at any level is to play to the whistle. Nani did, Gomes didn't, that's not a case of poor sportsmanship.
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Well why do people kick the ball out when someone is injured? Why does sportmanship matter sometimes, and other times, it doesn't? I know Nani is not the only footballer lacking sportsmanship
 
Let's say it was a handball. Gomez took control of the ball straight away. Are you saying ref isn't allowed to give spurs advanage? He wasn't under pressure from any united player and could have started counter attack.
Tbh only person to blame for this is Gomez. Ref didn't stop play so don't put the ball down and walkaway.
 
ordinaryjoe said:
Penalties are difficult for the referee to judge, and different people will have different opinions. Bearing in mind that it wasn't a penalty, would anyone say that Nani didn't touch the ball with his hands? No... Therefore, it was an error by the referee.

And just by saying other people lack sportmanship, that doesn't suddenly give Nani sportsmanship. If I'm playing tennis with a friend and I hit the ball slightly out and he doesn't realise, I tell him, and I think most people would, but when there's a lot of people watching and money involved, people seem to lose morals.
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I think Nani's a filthy cheat, but calling him for being unsportsman like, when he did exactly nothing wrong, after he was wronged when he was denied a penalty, I was simply pointing out how ludicrous your claim was. Bearing in mind it was a penalty but wasn't given, and that it was a handball but wasn't given, what makes that less fair to Spurs and therefore in your opinion worse that Nani played on, given that the completely obvious penalty was also played on?

What you're doing is looking at the OUTCOME, not the act, what if the entire team had been up for a last ditch corner, keeper included and Gomez kicked it long and got a goal, the outcome changes, the ACT didn't, he played on when he knew it was a penalty.

To be fair, Nani played on when he knew it was a penalty AND didn't think it was a handball.

I just find it incredibly to have a go at Nani, for doing what Gomez did, or a less bad version of it.

Simple fact is, whistle never went, no one called for a freekick, Gomez put the ball down and walked away, if he did that at ANY other stage of the game its ok for Nani to kick it in the net, but not then because, it seems unfair?

THe alternative and "good refering" version of this situation would be 2-0, penalty Kaboul off and banned for a game, I really don't know why Spurs fans think its unfair. Its unfair to whoever is playing Spurs next where Kaboul shouldn't be allowed to play.
 
One More Solo said:
The first thing you learn playing football at any level is to play to the whistle. Nani did, Gomes didn't, that's not a case of poor sportsmanship.
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Cheatin

Nani knows

Replays clearly show it

No defence just as 6yrs ago with the Mendes disallowed goal
 
Nani has his faults but putting the ball in there isn't one. As a fan you'd be angry if he didn't try it, just like with Torres earlier in the season. Attackers are there to take advantage of any situation and score.
 
bayo000 said:
Let's say it was a handball. Gomez took control of the ball straight away. Are you saying ref isn't allowed to give spurs advanage? He wasn't under pressure from any united player and could have started counter attack.
Tbh only person to blame for this is Gomez. Ref didn't stop play so don't put the ball down and walkaway.
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Gomez can be blamed for what?
 
drunkenmaster said:
I think Nani's a filthy cheat, but calling him for being unsportsman like, when he did exactly nothing wrong, after he was wronged when he was denied a penalty, I was simply pointing out how ludicrous your claim was. Bearing in mind it was a penalty but wasn't given, and that it was a handball but wasn't given, what makes that less fair to Spurs and therefore in your opinion worse that Nani played on, given that the completely obvious penalty was also played on?

What you're doing is looking at the OUTCOME, not the act, what if the entire team had been up for a last ditch corner, keeper included and Gomez kicked it long and got a goal, the outcome changes, the ACT didn't, he played on when he knew it was a penalty.

To be fair, Nani played on when he knew it was a penalty AND didn't think it was a handball.

I just find it incredibly to have a go at Nani, for doing what Gomez did, or a less bad version of it.

Simple fact is, whistle never went, no one called for a freekick, Gomez put the ball down and walked away, if he did that at ANY other stage of the game its ok for Nani to kick it in the net, but not then because, it seems unfair?

THe alternative and "good refering" version of this situation would be 2-0, penalty Kaboul off and banned for a game, I really don't know why Spurs fans think its unfair. Its unfair to whoever is playing Spurs next where Kaboul shouldn't be allowed to play.
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The penalty wasn't undeniable!! Seriously, what is enough to earn a penalty is opinion based. The handball was beyond any reasonable opinion.

I'm not denying Gomes made a bad mistake but it was obvious that Nani handballed it - especially bearing in mind that the penalty had already not been given... The penalty is therefore completely irrelevant.

And I don't support Spurs at all... I just find ridiculious things like this ridiculous
 
Calm down THFC, Man Utd have just as much a case for a penalty as Spurs fans do handball, both could have been given but the contact could have been seen as OK and the handball accidental. Gomes should have booted it out, he didn't hear a whistle.
 
THFC said:
Gomez can be blamed for what?
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Goal.
Again lets say it's a freekick, nani handled the ball 2(?) metres from goal line, Gomes "is taking" free kick almost from edge of the area. Isn't getting advantage of about 10 metres case of poor sportsmanship?
 
Just wish In high profile games

Officials could refer to Video evidence - (at least for goal decisons)

These decisions in a season make a difference
 
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