Religion - I can understand someone believing in god/jesus, but why do they believe in the bible?

The discovery that Jesus was a figment of everyone's imagination probably

I believe Jesus may have actually existed..but if so he was no more than a mere mortal spouting off made up religious crap as they do now....nowadays they still grow beards but want to kill non-believers...& whereas jesus had risen from a tomb, todays equivelant tries to escape from prison on our earnings.
 
So you think that there are not any scrolls kept hidden do you and that it's just a conspiracy theory, there's plenty of evidence around on the net altho you would just spout your usual ' can you prove that' stock answer

You do realise that the scroll's are fragments of the Hebrew Bible don't you? and that some are of apocryphal texts such as Enoch and that some include texts not recognised as canonical. What reason would anyone have to purposely hide texts that can simply be called apocryphal or Pseudepigraphical as indeed many of the scrolls, for example The Genesis Apocryphon , have already been.

Is it not more believable that in fact no text has been kept secret and that the real explanation is that considering the actual condition and that there are hundreds of tiny fragments to reconstitute and the fact that many of the works are incomplete and written in long dead languages such as Aramaic it takes time to publish them be a more reasonable assumption to make.


I think he could say the same thing to you , is the well documented theory that the shroud is a fake concocted by Leonardo Da Vinci also dismissed by yourself ?

I did not make any comment on whether the Turin shroud is fake or not, but on the assumption made that someone faked it in his back yard on Halloween. So basically no he could not make the same accusation to me.

I would go with the radiocarbon dating that suggests the shroud dates to between 1260 and 1390, putting out of the realm of trick or treaters or Leonardo da Vinci who had yet to be born.

Interestingly you do realise that the Shroud has never been endorsed by the Catholic Church as being authentic.

(What an idiot)

No it shows you lot take yourselves far too serious & should lighten up....;)

You lot?, what lot is that exactly?
 
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"Oh Joseph....thank space (there was no god at this point remember)

Even as an atheist I know that God had been around for a very long time but Jesus was the first to announce he was the son of God and that's why they nailed him.
The rest of your story is probably true though.
 
Castiel...

"You lot?, what lot is that exactly?"


Oh just the likes of you who take things too serious....Seems every thread on here...be it from someone just asking for a g-card opinion, ends up being 3 pages long thru petty "intellectual" in-fighting. I personally get sick of seeing it. People on this site need to stop taking things serious & just chill out & have a laugh..

btw....which part of my posts didn't scream out..."I'm here just takin the mick & having a laugh"....try it. the edges of your mouth may crack & widen.

ps..hate to break it to you...superman didn't exist either ;)
 
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Castiel...

"You lot?, what lot is that exactly?"


Oh just the likes of you who take things too serious....Seems every thread on here...be it from someone just asking for a g-card opinion, ends up being 3 pages long thru petty "intellectual" in-fighting. I personally get sick of seeing it. People on this site need to stop taking things serious & just chill out & have a laugh..

btw....which part of my posts didn't scream out..."I'm here just takin the mick & having a laugh"....try it. the edges of your mouth may crack & widen.

ps..hate to break it to you...superman didn't exist either ;)

You don't know me, you have no idea what I find funny or whether I am likely to 'have a laugh' at another's expense or not.

It's interesting how many people who answer a sensible post with garbage then say 'Oh I was only Joking' when they are called up on it.

If you are so sick of seeing it then go elsewhere.

ps, guess what, it is only a forum sig, not a statement of belief.....
 
See, I agree in general. I just wouldn't use phrases like "that the entire Universe shares a single common ancestor". It's semantics really, I think we're on the same page generally. I assume that you are open to the possibility of a human envisioned 'God'?

I hate discussing this sort of thing though... it's not like we're ever going to find out the truth.

I'm open to any possibility, be it for or against.
 
God resides within you, Jesus was someone that said the wrong thing at the wrong time, Mary got knocked up, the bible is a great book that really meant something 2000 years ago. However God in my view is your conscience and doesn't require any of the outdated religions in order for you to be the man/woman that he/she would like you to be.
 
You don't know me, you have no idea what I find funny or whether I am likely to 'have a laugh' at another's expense or not.

It's interesting how many people who answer a sensible post with garbage then say 'Oh I was only Joking' when they are called up on it.

If you are so sick of seeing it then go elsewhere.

ps, guess what, it is only a forum sig, not a statement of belief.....

& you don't know me so don't assume I'm "ignorant & misinformed" from a statement I made which should have screamed out to you "he's joking about"

BTW...if you truly believe I put a post about the turin shroud being a trick or treater in all good faith & then proclaimed I was just joking when you pulled me about it....then there is no hope for you....& on that note...you clearly lack a sense of humour. My time is wasted...let the misery of these boards carry on....
 
& you don't know me so don't assume I'm "ignorant & misinformed" from a statement I made which should have screamed out to you "he's joking about"

As you were interjecting into what was a serious comment to a serious post with an inanity, that is ignorant and rude regardless of whether you were joking or not.


BTW...if you truly believe I put a post about the turin shroud being a trick or treater in all good faith & then proclaimed I was just joking when you pulled me about it....then there is no hope for you....& on that note...you clearly lack a sense of humour. My time is wasted...let the misery of these boards carry on....

:D Oh, I have an excellent sense of humour, a little dry and difficult for the more ignorant to grasp, but excellent nonetheless.
 
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In the spirit of good faith and appreciation of "gods" creatures, why not take a chill pill and appreciate......

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