Minecraft OCuK Forum Members Server Thread

Rizo-UK said:
Whats with the "outdated server" server message?

i need my daily fix lol
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Beta has just been released and the company hosting Garsands' server haven't been able to update all of their machines yet primarily as they rely on a 3rd party to develop a mod for them to get the game working properly.
 

actually, it was me windle. i was the one who said to gar i wanted to get it started, planned where it was, planned the lightblock layout (and put it right when we as a team kept getting it wrong). A lot of people put the effort in to that train station, so that doesnt give anyone the right to go altering it without asking the rest of us.

It was my track, I built and cleared the entire route and if you've travelled the line it's a long way. At no point did anyone ask me if it could be messed about with
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Like i asked you, what was the point of changing the route of the tracks to run through the station, with the sole intention of being able to travel back and forth on them, if you are going to block them off in the train station itself?

i guess we all wrongly assumed that the route would be used for the entire community after changing the route? maybe we should have constantly rebuilt the tracks after getting wrecked by mobs? we even had the go ahead from tefel for a entrance to the fort which connected at that switcher. if you want that track for yourself then fine, then we'll pool our resources and build another track that follows the same route and you can have your own trainstation, since virtually nobody else will want to travel that distance if there's only one stop - your mine. fair?

...Merely reinstating it to the way it was and sorting out a proper dispensing, launching system
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it was not like that, the idea was to travel through the station.

After removing the track switcher which I couldn't get to work I fixed the line so that Minecart mania worked properly with an automatic cart dispenser, launcher and booster
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The only thing that needed fixing was the boosters, which as i said we had run out of gold for. So instead of letting somebody put their hand upand explain, you just deleted hours of work.
 
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garsands said:
This is such a hard call for me to make....
There are stonge pros & cons for both.

Re the.... I'm also wondering how involved garsands would be after beta...

I would set myself rules ones I know of will be

1. No more changing night to day.
2. No more helping to clear land with commands.
3. No more /protecting players work.
4. No admins I have been alone for the last month as it is.
5. No more giving players items for free, unless they got lost due to a crash or bug or my fault.
6. I will move players work if needed undamaged.
7. bbhere use for players would say.
8. limit the size of the world.

are the ones I can think off at the moment

Things I need to do are...

1. Link both forum & player names on the 2nd post of this thread & remove any that have removed there name from the whitelist.
2. Setup the server shop, I did ask if anyone wanted to take this on at the time but had no takers.
3. Make each player a vault out of bedrock a 20 x 20 size room with no windows or doors you have to /warp to it using your player name. The room is /protected & also only you can enter it no one but you can /tp or /warp into it. The room is empty when you get it & its up to you how you use it, its 100% safe.
Nothing can distory bedrock so you can't even damage your own room, no doors or windows means no one can drop lava in to your room.
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I'm for all of those except maybe the first one and number eight. You've said yourself why it would be a bad idea to limit the size of the world, considering it allows people who want to venture out to do so but leaves those who don't under no obligation to. Limit it and you'll always have one unhappy party.

And talking to people earlier it doesn't look like they're happy about the idea of a shop. Would it not be better for players to trade amongst themselves, especially since after the initial funds are spent you can only get money by selling things, which doesn't really offer an advantage over gathering resources yourself.

That third thing to do is interesting though... with nothing in it to start with though won't there not be any light? Therefore couldn't monsters spawn? They'd have to be out the way too, especially if you are limiting world size.
 
@ Superewza
Number 8 I did not say how large the limited world would be. The longest point from the spawn at moment is about 4000 blocks.
Nor the reason for limiting it, I want to limit it as it makes my admin easyer & also keeps the overhead image sizes down. It would still a free to roam server.
I was thinking of a world 10,000 x 10,000 thats 5,000 blocks out from spawn, the spawn can be moved to where every I want to put it with in that zone.

The vaults would have torches already in them for light I have already made a test set up that some players have seen & tested the no /tp or /warp to try to get in.
The test one is 4000 blocks away from the spawn & 2 blocks from the bottom of the word near the bedrock base, so it is & will be way out of the way I may coat it in 10 blocks of lava top & sides just so no one can bump into it.
 
garsands said:
@ Superewza
Number 8 I did not say how large the limited world would be. The longest point from the spawn at moment is about 4000 blocks.
Nor the reason for limiting it, I want to limit it as it makes my admin easyer & also keeps the overhead image sizes down. It would still a free to roam server.
I was thinking of a world 10,000 x 10,000 thats 5,000 blocks out from spawn, the spawn can be moved to where every I want to put it with in that zone.

The vaults would have torches already in them for light I have already made a test set up that some players have seen & tested the no /tp or /warp to try to get in.
The test one is 4000 blocks away from the spawn & 2 blocks from the bottom of the word near the bedrock base, so it is & will be way out of the way I may coat it in 10 blocks of lava top & sides just so no one can bump into it.
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can you use bedrock as a crafting material? if so wouldn't a bank at spawn be much cooler? all glass and refined cobble... with bedrock vaults in the basement...

could have them say in a 4x5 grid with multiple floors.
 
james.miller said:
actually, it was me windle. i was the one who said to gar i wanted to get it started, planned where it was, planned the lightblock layout (and put it right when we as a team kept getting it wrong). A lot of people put the effort in to that train station, so that doesnt give anyone the right to go altering it without asking the rest of us.

Like i asked you, what was the point of changing the route of the tracks to run through the station, with the sole intention of being able to travel back and forth on them, if you are going to block them off in the train station itself?

i guess we all wrongly assumed that the route would be used for the entire community after changing the route? maybe we should have constantly rebuilt the tracks after getting wrecked by mobs? we even had the go ahead from tefel for a entrance to the fort which connected at that switcher. if you want that track for yourself then fine, then we'll pool our resources and build another track that follows the same route and you can have your own trainstation, since virtually nobody else will want to travel that distance if there's only one stop - your mine. fair?

it was not like that, the idea was to travel through the station.

The only thing that needed fixing was the boosters, which as i said we had run out of gold for. So instead of letting somebody put their hand upand explain, you just deleted hours of work.
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You clearly have your own idea of how things played out in the past so I won't bother trying to change your mind. I have no issue with people using the track that I laid down and putting in connections as long as it doesn't alter the route. As I said, I tested the route and could not consistently get your track switcher to send me from the station to the original terminus.

However, if people do want to connect in to the line, at the very least please ask before adding something that may potentially screw it up which is the main reason I removed the switcher.

With regards the station, I have no issue with it running straight through, as I mentioned I merely setup a dispenser launcher and booster. It can be reinstated.
 
If there is not going to be a server wipe I think we defenatly have to do something to make the spawn safe, and remove any unused buildings, its hard to get anywhere (for example, walking from spawn to my base involves having to jump over/around a few peoples houses as we have no roads). And can we please get a conformation on if there will be a server or a definate no, so people will at least know if they should continue with their structures or not. I would love a reset, but would like to know before building even more stuff.

Garsands, if you can 'remove' all chests on the server and then just replace them to empty them, does that mean you can do the same for lightstone and diamond blocks (and just not replace them)?

vincent1989 said:
can you use bedrock as a crafting material? if so wouldn't a bank at spawn be much cooler? all glass and refined cobble... with bedrock vaults in the basement...

could have them say in a 4x5 grid with multiple floors.
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People would still have to teleport into them though, so why make them accessable at all? as its not like you will need to get to the outside of the vault at all. Also hiding them will allow gars to easily add more without having to wory about room.
 
Dist said:
People would still have to teleport into them though, so why make them accessable at all? as its not like you will need to get to the outside of the vault at all. Also hiding them will allow gars to easily add more without having to wory about room.
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yeah but it's a bit more..i dunno..realisticish, i know you could still warp inside from anywhere but it's more fun, having like a town centre at spawn with space for a house for everyone as well as a shop and a bank, a trainstation, a park, who knows, sky's the limit...
 
Windle said:
You clearly have your own idea of how things played out in the past so I won't bother trying to change your mind. I have no issue with people using the track that I laid down and putting in connections as long as it doesn't alter the route. As I said, I tested the route and could not consistently get your track switcher to send me from the station to the original terminus.

However, if people do want to connect in to the line, at the very least please ask before adding something that may potentially screw it up which is the main reason I removed the switcher.

With regards the station, I have no issue with it running straight through, as I mentioned I merely setup a dispenser launcher and booster. It can be reinstated.
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I don't think it worked because no gold boosters etc, is was part way through being changed to work with Minecraft mania :p As before that it was just using standard boosters, then as we didn't have the materials it didn't get finished hence why it was in the state you found it in (not working). It was never suppose to take carts off your track it was just opening possibilities in sending people to the fort.

We started work on this about a week ago if not longer once we got cart boosters working, I also had no idea who made that track before :p But I know it hadn't been used it weeks so we were trying to change that.

As for server reset, I wouldn't want it to happen personally as I have seen how we have adapted to mobs etc over the past few months and plenty of big awesome projects going on. The only problem with the current server is the dupe issue and the spawn (maybe). Say if the dupe bug is fixed then a reset would help with that but it won't be 2 weeks until after the reset that someone will find another bug/way to abuse part of the game as its still a beta.

I find after resets only the first week or so is interesting due to finding mines and building your starting place and as other people have mentioned they don't want to run for 5mins to find a mine. Image how far they will have to run 2 weeks after the server gets reset and there is no dupe bug :p

Well either way its not my server and I'm just one player of many so I couldn't say whats right or wrong but just wanted to post some opinions :D

EDIT I'm the last person on the server! WINNARRR!!
 
@ vincent1989 Not >>>>>> Superewza sorry lots of posts to keep up.
Yes I can use bedrock but only myself I will use such things for the good of the server but not for the good of a player.
The is already a bank at the spawn & only a few a very few players use it, you would need a big building to house 100 20x20 rooms its not going to be pretty this is why its under ground theres no doors or windows in the room so the bank would just look like a cube if it was above ground.
There can still be a bank above ground at the spawn & I can setup a mod that lets users lock there own chests.
I want to make vaults as it takes the work load off me as you can put 20+ chests in your vault + Furnaces + Workbenchs, you could even line the walls with your own choce of block to make it more home looking add a false door bookcases ect. once its set up I don't need to do any /protect for the player again, as you will have the /bbhere to keep the server safe.
 
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Dist said:
Garsands, if you can 'remove' all chests on the server and then just replace them to empty them, does that mean you can do the same for lightstone and diamond blocks (and just not replace them)
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Yes I can, I can change any block(s) in to any other type of block(s) to remove them I replace them with air as air is still a block.
 
garsands said:
@ vincent1989 Not >>>>>> Superewza sorry lots of posts to keep up.
Yes I can use bedrock but only myself I will use such things for the good of the server but not for the good of a player.
The is already a bank at the spawn & only a few a very few players use it, you would need a big building to house 100 20x20 rooms its not going to be pretty this is why its under ground theres no doors or windows in the room so the bank would just look like a cube if it was above ground.
There can still be a bank above ground at the spawn & I can setup a mod that lets users lock there own chests.
I want to make vaults as it takes the work load off me as you can put 20+ chests in your vault + Furnaces + Workbenchs, you could even line the walls with your own choce of block to make it more home looking add a false door bookcases ect. once its set up I don't need to do any /protect for the player again, as you will have the /bbhere to keep the server safe.
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i can understand that, however it needn't take up much space, you could also reuse vaults which aren't regularly visited.

thought i'd just add a picture of my idea so it makes more sense;

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Superewza said:
Like Gringots? :p

Does master Vince have his key?

Sorry.
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hell yeah :cool: lol, almost exactly like that.
 
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