My mate has got himself in a right mess with the police..

Correct me if I am wrong but hasn't a phone been obtained here fraudulently?

It has, but it appeared the instruction was to contact the phone company and tell them what has happened.

If that is done, then the status quo is restored and it's all good, lesson learned, etc.
 
Correct me if I am wrong but hasn't a phone been obtained here fraudulently?

The Sergeant told the Lad to tell the phone company the phone has turned up, So No.
I have no problem with this as long as the Lad learnt his lesson.
 
Unless I am reading it incorrectly, I will have to disagree with it being a poor decision. It was calculated.

He wanted a new phone via a fraudulent insurance claim and in order to convince the insurance company, invented a violent crime that didn't happen.
 
Considering how big the lie was he just walked away scot free.

Wow, you would make such a great cop. It's all well and good to be authoritarian, but surely you've got to think of the people you are serving? Giving someone a second chance would be enough to put them on the straight and narrow.

Prosecuting them would quite likely put the person into a cycle.

He is obviously just a foolish kid who has made a poor decision which he has admitted to and unless he had any previous (which he did not) or the lie went further than it did (which it didn't) then there is no reason to potentially ruin this kids prospects with a criminal record.

As long as he had learnt his lesson then I fail to see the problem with the Police's attitude and response. What would prosecution accomplish, nothing.

A sensible approach. It's a shame clever people are to clever to join the police. :(
 
Unless I am reading it incorrectly, I will have to disagree with it being a poor decision. It was calculated.

He wanted a new phone via a fraudulent insurance claim and in order to convince the insurance company, invented a violent crime that didn't happen.

It's called being a muppet. He tried it on, realised how stupid he was and has hopefully learned from his mistakes.

With the fright he has hopefully got, he won't be doing it again in a hurry!
 
Unless I am reading it incorrectly, I will have to disagree with it being a poor decision. It was calculated.

He wanted a new phone via a fraudulent insurance claim and in order to convince the insurance company, invented a violent crime that didn't happen.

I don't think thats fair, the lad has made it to 23 years old Without a criminal record so he is a good lad that just made a stupid mistake, No point dragging it through the courts & destroying the lad.
 
I don't think thats fair, the lad has made it to 23 years old Without a criminal record so he is a good lad that just made a stupid mistake, No point dragging it through the courts & destroying the lad.

I think he is getting enough abuse here anyway ;)
 
Back home now, Trust me he has learnt his lesson, or rather according to Will Gill I have :rolleyes:

I myself can't believe he essentially got away scot free but he did do the right thing in the end that's the main thing, I said to him if he went in early and confessed they might be lenient, rather than waiting, apparently o2 said to keep the new phone and just send back the old one, not sure why, I don't think he got an upgrade though, well not a iPhone4 at least, I think he got a 3GS, he used to have a 8gig 3g.

If I'm being honest I'm quite surprised he did go in and confess early, I really thought he'd wait until his appointment with the Sergeant first to see the lay of the land.
 
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Wow, you would make such a great cop. It's all well and good to be authoritarian, but surely you've got to think of the people you are serving? Giving someone a second chance would be enough to put them on the straight and narrow.

Prosecuting them would quite likely put the person into a cycle.

It is not about being authoritarian, what resources were tied up dealing with a crime that never existed?

Imagine that CCTV was recovered and a person or persons fitting the description given in the statement were hauled in on suspension of robbery, how is that fair?
 
It is not about being authoritarian, what resources were tied up dealing with a crime that never existed?

Imagine that CCTV was recovered and a person or persons fitting the description given in the statement were hauled in on suspension of robbery, how is that fair?

But that didn't happen. If it had, I doubt the sergeant would have let him off.
 
Back home now, Trust me he has learnt his lesson, or rather according to Will Gill I have :rolleyes:

I myself can't believe he essentially got away scot free but he did do the right thing in the end that's the main thing, I said to him if he went in early and confessed they might be lenient, rather than waiting, apparently o2 said to keep the new phone and just send back the old one, not sure why, I don't think he got an upgrade though, well not a iPhone4 at least, I think he got a 3GS, he used to have a 8gig 3g.

So he has profited out of all of this at the end of the day.
 
He is obviously just a foolish kid...

23 is a kid? I had two kids myself at that age. Young and naive maybe, but I am still not convinced that he has got away with it.
I think the Sergeant did the right thing, but ultimately it is not his decision whether to prosecute or not, particularly if the insurance company discover that the incident number refers to a false statement.
 
So he has profited out of all of this at the end of the day.

He has, yes, just about. However, given that the only 3GS on sale these days is the 8GB, it's a fairly marginal win. I doubt he'll be trying it again any time soon. It's not like he's pulled off The Great Phone Robbery.
 
He deserved a lot more than he got to be honest.
I couldn't really care less about the insurance company, but to go and lie to the police just to get a new phone, shows how stupid people are to not think about the consequences of their actions.
I seriously hope your friend learns his lesson from this. Usually having to deal with the police like this puts people back on the straight and narrow, as long as they're good people at heart.
 
So he has profited out of all of this at the end of the day.

Oddly enough yes, I know other people won't see it like this but perhaps that was karma giving him a small pat on the back for doing the right thing, I don't think we give people enough credit for owning up, end of the day he was ****ing it, he couldn't even finish he's college assignments because of it. I personally think it was quite brave of him to go and and confess when he 'might' of gotten away with it.

Perhaps bias is effecting my judgement because he is my friend but I'd like to think I'd have the same opinion if it was a stranger.
 
Ok this is lowrider here reporting live from the scene on this rainy monday afternoon on my phone so excuse any typo's

He actually went into the police station this morning and told them the truth and he was let off !!, not even a cuation !

He said that the segeant said it was good of him to admit the truth when he did, he said if it had went on any longer he could have arrested him.

With regards to the phone the sergeant said to ring o2 and tell them it was recovered, man if it was me I'd want to kiss that sergeant.

Wow, that's lucky! Bet it's a weight of yo....his mind.
 
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