January Transfer Window 2010/2011 Season Rumours/Signings

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What the **** is going on!?!?!?

And no Donovan isn't coming back on loan, we have no money, no strikers, can't even offer Pienaar £65k a week he wants so God knows where the Mirror got we are paying Yak £80k! And apparently Leicester have offered money to pay for a permanent deal if they get promoted.


*sigh

I honestly never know the deal with Everton and money, do they really not have any, do they generate a yearly profit from tv/ticket money? Are they in debt, or just owners who can't or won't put money in?

With a lot of clubs with smaller stadiums they end up limited by wages as wages have to be sane to keep the club in profit every year. The higher up the table you generally are or want to be the more a small stadium costs you as ticket sales are such a big difference in weekly income.

I'm sure offloading players, especially more expensive players and even more so ones that really are just sucking that cash out with absolutely no end product like the Yak, the better off the club will be.

At worst they should be able to afford wages up to what Pienaar/Yak would normally get in loan players shouldn't they.

I wouldn't necessarily take the Pienaar/Spurs talk seriously, is there a player in the entire universe that Redknapp doesn't say he'd like to sign?

EDIT:- Also why does everyone wait till mid Jan to make a real push for players, I've never understood it, Wenger needs a CB, we've needed one since August, why not look around, find the right guy and sort out the deal to go through on Jan 1st. How many points might we have dropped by the end of Jan. Same goes for other teams, you're desparate to win the league, or not go down, why not work out who you want and sort out the deal as early in Jan as possible.
 
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EDIT:- Also why does everyone wait till mid Jan to make a real push for players, I've never understood it, Wenger needs a CB, we've needed one since August, why not look around, find the right guy and sort out the deal to go through on Jan 1st. How many points might we have dropped by the end of Jan. Same goes for other teams, you're desparate to win the league, or not go down, why not work out who you want and sort out the deal as early in Jan as possible.

Managers won't necessarily know who they want prior to January. You and I know that Wenger needs a decent CB, but if Squillaci and Verm were fit he wouldn't be looking for one. So he wouldn't go looking for one in October on the off chance he might need them in January.

Also, if you're the selling club would you really want players agreeing to move before January and expect them to perform to the required level until the move happens? I wouldn't. With few exceptions, I would expect selling clubs not to give permission to talk to a player until the transfer window opens or just prior to it.
 
How many CB's did Arsene let go in the Summer? Gallas, Silvestre, Senderos, Nordveit and Campbell? And he thought replacing them with 2 would be enough. :D
 
Nordveit went this month, definitely an odd one though.

Silvestre and Campbell just about make one competent defender between them.

And when was the last time Senderos did anything for us?

So really, we let two go. :p
 
I honestly never know the deal with Everton and money, do they really not have any, do they generate a yearly profit from tv/ticket money? Are they in debt, or just owners who can't or won't put money in?

Everton's turnover is only ~£80m a year and their wages are £49m of that already.

By comparison, Arsenal's turnover is £220m per year and their wages are £111m.
 
Nordveit went this month, definitely an odd one though.

Silvestre and Campbell just about make one competent defender between them.

And when was the last time Senderos did anything for us?

So really, we let two go. :p

Cheers for Gallas by the way. :p
 
EDIT:_ Did anyone see the CB in the Leicester/City game, the guy they just signed, seems very impressive. I don't think I've ever seen a CB dominate another team from corners/freekicks as completely as he did. Won everything, great in the air, his headers were almost all good, had a couple cleared off the line, and this is against the lowest conceding side in the league and a very good defence.

Bet he'll be a target in summer for prem league clubs, assuming they don't get promoted, which doesn't seem to likely at the moment.

Nope, would have to go some to beat Alex @ PSV though.
 
Everton's turnover is only ~£80m a year and their wages are £49m of that already.

By comparison, Arsenal's turnover is £220m per year and their wages are £111m.

Doesn't really tell us much though. Arsenal could be making a 40million loss while Everton were making a 31million profit from those numbers.

Their turnover is small, smaller stadium, no champs league money, smaller wages, etc, the question is do they make 10mil a year, do they just break even so the owner who might be willing to pay out 10million as a one off to buy a player, but he isn't willing for the club to make a loss each year on the wages that player will take.

Thats what Wenger bangs on about, if we buy more players, we'll end up making a big loss each year like City/Chelsea, of course, he's an idiot, a 35mil profit doesn't turn into a 100mil loss by adding 2x 5 mil a year wages on 2 players at 100k a week. Nor would it add anything if you sold the rubbish and replaced them with better players on the same wages.

For me thats what Everton need to do, Pienaar isn't worth 65k a week, he isn't worth 30k a week. Yakubu, the way he's been for two years, isn't worth 20 quid a week. Everton need a clear out of the likes of Hibbert, Pienaar, Yak, Saha who despite his last couple games is injured to much, costs too much and isn't consistant or reliable.

Why did Nordveit leave, he looked promising in the pre-season!

Because we brought him back from loan, he looked good and we don't play him.

Wenger winds me up, how much money do we sink on players who we KNOW aren't good enough for Arsenal, yet an actually promising player we let rot on the bench? Denilson is getting a pretty decent wage, everyone but Wenger knows he isn't remotely good enough for Arsenal, but we keep him and get rid of really quite promising players. No idea, he deserved games so left for a club that would actually play him, if he's not good enough yet to be in our first team or backup then I don't see the point in keeping him around. However keeping him around on probably 10-15k a week over Denilson on probably double that makes a lot more sense, and if Denilson was gone he'd get a few games instead and that might be enough for now.
 
Thats what Wenger bangs on about, if we buy more players, we'll end up making a big loss each year like City/Chelsea, of course, he's an idiot, a 35mil profit doesn't turn into a 100mil loss by adding 2x 5 mil a year wages on 2 players at 100k a week.



That has to be the most ridiculous thing anyone has ever come out with on this forum? Wenger is doing a brilliant job at keeping Arsenal ticking over in the Champions League, while they pay off debts and spend as little money as possible. And why is he doing that? Well, so the manager that replaces him has a club in absolutely perfect financial footing to walk into.

Many, many clubs would count themselves extremely lucky to have a manager such as him. And then there are morons like you giving him stick for trying to do the best for Arsenal's future, which IS a detriment to how his record will look when he retires.

WOW! Long post for me, but you really wound me up with that idiotic comment that time!
 
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That has to be the most ridiculous thing anyone has ever come out with on this forum? Wenger is doing a brilliant job at keeping Arsenal ticking over in the Champions League, while they pay off debts and spend as little money as possible. And why is he doing that? Well, so the manager that replaces him has a club in absolutely perfect financial footing to walk into.

Many, many clubs would count themselves extremely lucky to have a manager such as him. And then there are morons like you giving him stick for trying to do the best for Arsenal's future, which IS a detriment to how his record will look when he retires.

WOW! Long post for me, but you really wound me up with that idiotic comment that time!

Wenger is insisting repeatedly that buying a couple of players, which even at 100k a week and easily Arsenals best paid players, would cost 10million a year in wages. We're 35mil a year in profit(after interest), to suggest that would turn us into City, at 130mil a year or so losses, is stupid, its a completely idiotic thing to say.

Also as I said, if you ditch 2 players who are on 40k a week, and bring in 2 players who are on 40k a week, you, break even, in no way whatsoever taking us close to financial oblivion.

Say you don't want to spend, say Denilson's the bestest player in the world, don't talk rubbish, if he thinks denilson is fantastic and doesn't want to replace him, say theres no one he wants to replace. To spout utter rubbish about going from 35mil in profit to 100mil(or even 5mil) in loss with the signing of a player or two is just ridiculous.

He just spent 80k a week on a striker who, after 10 games became useless, for a position we have about 5-6 players for already, as he's turned us into a single striker using team. So 80k a week on a not proven player in this league, in a position we in no way needing reinforcing isn't idiotic, but replacing players who aren't good enough with better players, will plunge us into vast debt? Either Chamakh is the right player, why on earth have Vela, he's been officially on Arsenal's books for 5 years, on loan at first in Spain, then 2nd or 3rd season at Arsenal, he'll be on 40k a week+, he's started FOUR league games. I don't much care about Chamakh, he was pointless, I said that long before we signed him, maybe he's an improvement, but why are we keeping Vela, he clearly has no intention of giving him a real chance, or even playing him in a remotely useful manner. Sell Vela, save money, give JET a chance as he can ACTUALLY play the wing and upfront, and is a great potential talent. He says one thing, and does another, then speaks rubbish inbetween about why he can't just sign more players on high wages or the club will instantly drop into massive debt. The board for YEARS has said he can sign more players, again its Wenger insistance on this idea theres only one way to win, and every other way is tainted somehow and its idiotic.

He's an idiot, he has these ridiculous principles of the "right way" to win. WE could cut half the youth squad, save 20mil a year, and have hurt the team in no way at all, we have so much dross in the youth team, and we end up letting them leave for next to nothing when he finally accepts they aren't good enough, at huge expense.

Sorry but Arsenal could be a LOT more profitable, AND better AND sign better players and not become City Mk 2.

Hoyte, on 15-20k a week, for several years despite being a truly truly awful player, thats 1 mil a year, we could have saved for YEARS before we finally booted him, Denilson, get rid of him on 30-40k a week, no give him new contract, sit him on the bench, or watch him come on and play crap, 2mil a year before bonuses and signing on fee's, for years. Theo, 60k a week, 3 mil a year, probably cost around 10mil. Wooo.


As said Wenger keeps coming out with this idiotic statements about one or two players somehow ruining the club, and it is rubbish, again, by selling rubbish players, signing better players, on the same wages, or heck, even less money maybe, and getting rid of players Wenger never damn well uses, or never will use, we can SAVE lots of money, improve the team and be stronger in the future financially.

But heres the main issue, beyond staying solvent, theres no actual benefit to making a huge profit every year, it doesn't help the team, it doesn't help them win things.

With really quite minimal spending we can improve weak areas of the team, this can lead us to WIN things, which is where the REAL money is in football.

Wenger was also behind a ridiculously poor shirt/stadium shirt deal while Arsenal were very competitive. Pool are getting silly money for their shirt deal, Utd, Chelsea, Barca now, Real all get 15-20mil + a YEAR from their deals, Arsenal get 10mil a year for shirt AND stadium, or, around a 1/4 of what other clubs are getting. I'd hardly call that fantastic business.
 
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Maureen wants Adebayor apparently \o/, a loan deal with view to permanent view. Blackburn in talks with RSC also.
Hopefully they come off so it enables us to replace him with Suarez or Lukaka etc
 
I really hope Tuncay doesn't get sold, all the talk from Pulis lately seems to point towards Tuncay wanting a move away. A cracking player and has done really well for Stoke when given the chance of actually getting a game.
 
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