I do.
Because I can earn more than £7k per year.
I can claim it back eventually though
Is this desperate?
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I do.
Because I can earn more than £7k per year.
I can claim it back eventually though
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I'd go with letting them know your putting a small amount away each month rather than spending it on rubbish so you can buy a new pc. So that your not using all your wages in one go. That way when you say your buying a new pc you still have plenty of money to spend on other things.
I would also not spend too much. I'd go for about £4-500 and than you can get extra ram/HD/a better gfx card part by part (if your gfx card is ok just now).
You are old enough to buy what you want but you live under their roof and so have to abide by their rules.
I would also not spend too much. I'd go for about £4-500 and than you can get extra ram/HD/a better gfx card part by part (if your gfx card is ok just now).
You are old enough to buy what you want but you live under their roof and so have to abide by their rules.
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Im confused. His parents are clearly morons, why can't he just make it so the pc doesn't boot? Why does it need to be dead? Scanning through the posts didn't seem to answer this burning question in my mind.
Simples, take the mobo battery out. If thats soldered in then reseat a module of ram so that it doesn't sit properly and the pc will never boot or set the pc to try and run 400 fBS on stock volts, it will never boot. Or undervolt your ram to like 1.3v. So many possibilities.
If you wana kill it just pick the top setting on the voltages for your cpu, might take out several other things. As was discovered earlyer today a 2500k actually killed a whole test bed!
Simples, take the mobo battery out. If thats soldered in then reseat a module of ram so that it doesn't sit properly and the pc will never boot or set the pc to try and run 400 fBS on stock volts, it will never boot. Or undervolt your ram to like 1.3v. So many possibilities.
If you wana kill it just pick the top setting on the voltages for your cpu, might take out several other things. As was discovered earlyer today a 2500k actually killed a whole test bed!
Current graphics card is AGP
I very rarely spend my money, I save it for things I need/"rainy days", current balance is around £450, the remainder of wages go into my ISA.
£4-500 is around £150-200 more than was intending to spend (see previous page
)Last part is I fear the issue. Can't move out for obvious reasons, so need to find something I can do xD
Both parents have PhD's, not quite morons
Just ignorant at times, and stubborn.Similarly, Dad knows a fair bit about computers and would establish if ram wasn't seated or cable was loose or somehow battery had disappeared
Shove the PSU in a microwave, and saythe computer exploded.
Nah joking, a better plan is to actually upgrade in the summer if you're going to university this year. Say this is required for the course you're doing, as your current one does not meet with the minimum specs the course programs requires.
... Also by "coincidence" your current PC dies too in the summer by erm, "natural overheating" *cough*
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Nah joking, a better plan is to actually upgrade in the summer if you're going to university this year. Say this is required for the course you're doing, as your current one does not meet with the minimum specs the course programs requires.
... Also by "coincidence" your current PC dies too in the summer by erm, "natural overheating" *cough*
.Shove the PSU in a microwave, and saythe computer exploded.
Nah joking, a better plan is to actually upgrade in the summer if you're going to university this year. Say this is required for the course you're doing, as your current one does not meet with the minimum specs the course programs requires.
... Also by "coincidence" your current PC dies too in the summer by erm, "natural overheating" *cough*
Parents have decided I -need- a laptop for Uni because it won't get stolen and its portable - LOL.
I was thinking netbook and then desktop. Portability and then a PC with some power for the applications I'll be using.
Course I'm doing is chemistry however, so Dad and I both know that there won't be anything needing a great deal of power.
A portable laptop that cannot be stolen...
Looks like it may be the best way. I kind of went the same route, except it was desktop first then a laptop when I realised Maths uses complex software for calculations.
Have you tried discussing to your Dad about ITX builds? They can be powerful but still small and portable if you choose the right components.
Looks like it may be the best way. I kind of went the same route, except it was desktop first then a laptop when I realised Maths uses complex software for calculations.
Have you tried discussing to your Dad about ITX builds? They can be powerful but still small and portable if you choose the right components.
You be surprised about stuff needing power. On my old P4 system with 2gb RAm and a 7950gt, beyond some gaming, I find it FAR to slow to do anything, even word processing, mainly as it takes so long to load it up etc. A LOT of modern software runs so much better with a dual core, and if everything runs faster you can work quicker and as such save time and time = money so you effectively save all the money you spend on an upgrade. As mentioned above software can use complex calcs to show stuff. In chemistry you made need to create some complex models of the stucture of molecules etc, or how they interact or something (i know nothing about chemistry at uni so im just stabbing the dark here).
I was lucky, my parents leant me the monies for my first build and then I paid them back over the course of ages. But you do need to just stand up for yourself, explain that it is your money, your not wasting it, your already saving in your ISA, you need to have SOME money for things you want. Most people you age are spending most/all their money on beer and socialising so a PC is a much better purchase especially since it will help out with your UNI work when you go. 10 year old hardware is not designed to run software of today, remind them that xp is totally unsurported now and is a security risk to getting virus's etc on your PC which could destroy all your work. You need a new OS, which means a newer PC.
Why do they think a laptop wont get stolen? A desktop/netbook would mean the netbook might, but unless all your stuff is stolen the desktop will be fine. A collegue of mine was carrying his laptop along the road in london by its shoulder strap, a car drove past with a kind of hook device and caught it ont he strap and dragged it away after he let go/gave up being dragged along the road.
Why do you let them interfere with YOUR money? They have no right to stop you spending your money on what you want, ok, so I guess they're goign to help you out at uni? If not then tell em where to shove it and do what you want. Once at Uni you can just spend some of your loan on your PC without them knowing, unless you let them have your bank statements....which is KILLING THE ENVIRONMENT by not being paperless lol, so go paperless. block them out of all of your personal/private stuff. Its marked PRIVATE for a reason
Also, if you really have to sneak it, then just get it all delivered to a mates house and either go to a "LAN" there, or just wait till they're out and take it over and put it in. To save time build most of it out the case so you can just slot it in.
Failing that, Keep this thread going and I may end up feeling sorry enough for you to just buy you some parts, since im already about 50% of the way there.
Edit: Or just lick your CPU and put it back in, Ive done that with RAM I knew was already faulty, and it made it more faulty, tasted funny, but felt good licking a £400 pair of sticks.
I was lucky, my parents leant me the monies for my first build and then I paid them back over the course of ages. But you do need to just stand up for yourself, explain that it is your money, your not wasting it, your already saving in your ISA, you need to have SOME money for things you want. Most people you age are spending most/all their money on beer and socialising so a PC is a much better purchase especially since it will help out with your UNI work when you go. 10 year old hardware is not designed to run software of today, remind them that xp is totally unsurported now and is a security risk to getting virus's etc on your PC which could destroy all your work. You need a new OS, which means a newer PC.
Why do they think a laptop wont get stolen? A desktop/netbook would mean the netbook might, but unless all your stuff is stolen the desktop will be fine. A collegue of mine was carrying his laptop along the road in london by its shoulder strap, a car drove past with a kind of hook device and caught it ont he strap and dragged it away after he let go/gave up being dragged along the road.
Why do you let them interfere with YOUR money? They have no right to stop you spending your money on what you want, ok, so I guess they're goign to help you out at uni? If not then tell em where to shove it and do what you want. Once at Uni you can just spend some of your loan on your PC without them knowing, unless you let them have your bank statements....which is KILLING THE ENVIRONMENT by not being paperless lol, so go paperless. block them out of all of your personal/private stuff. Its marked PRIVATE for a reason
Also, if you really have to sneak it, then just get it all delivered to a mates house and either go to a "LAN" there, or just wait till they're out and take it over and put it in. To save time build most of it out the case so you can just slot it in.
Failing that, Keep this thread going and I may end up feeling sorry enough for you to just buy you some parts, since im already about 50% of the way there.
Edit: Or just lick your CPU and put it back in, Ive done that with RAM I knew was already faulty, and it made it more faulty, tasted funny, but felt good licking a £400 pair of sticks.
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Phd or not there acting like morons...you have done very well not to just lose it with them....you seem like a intelligent family and I'm sure both your parents enjoyed nice things as young adults so where's the life lesson here? It's not like your asking for a dream machine....I think you may be stuck with your POS for a little while longer mate...
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Switch to online bankig + paperless billing as others have said, then get stuff delivered to a friend's house... then make out the computer is broken and you're "taking it to get it repaired" - take it to said friends house and install previously delivered components, then take home "all mended" lol
lol
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Both parents have PhD's, not quite morons
Similarly, Dad knows a fair bit about computers and would establish if ram wasn't seated or cable was loose or somehow battery had disappeared
Being at uni my self I have met countless owners of PhD's and general uni students who are without a doubt morons. Exams are not a test of intelligence but of your ability to regurgitate stuff. It also is highly subject to what the PhD is actually in. I do a maths degree and some of the maths lectures may be incredibly mathmaticaly smart but they are thick as hell when it comes to doing something that isn't regimented or in a logical order let alone socially smart or possessing any common sense at all.
In this case I recommend breaking a capacitor on the mobo.
I am pretty sure people could steal my N510 easier than my Antec 1200 with all the gear inside. If i was a burglar i don't think i would be a***d to carry my computer very far.
I agree with the sex and drugs, rebel and say it was their fault for not letting you spend your OWN money.
I agree with the sex and drugs, rebel and say it was their fault for not letting you spend your OWN money.
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Laptops sell better than pc's I imagine.
Chemical, feel free mate I won't stop you.
LAN idea is unfortunately a no-go. Whilst parents don't completely object to letting me game, they aren't exactly fans of it. Hence, not ever going to be able to go to a LAN whilst I'm under this roof.
Mum's PhD is in research microbiology, specifically microbes that cause food poisoning.
Dad's is in Physical Engineering (he's done very well for himself, effectively came from lower class working family).
I have used that argument with laptops, but they reason that I'll be home most weekends to see the girlfriend (lives in same area, and is 1 year younger - waits for
He's a paedo ) so laptop won't be stuck there over the weekends. Naive imo, but that's their (own certainly my mums viewpoint).
Broken capacitor sounds a good idea (but how would I explain it), as does swapping a red and yellow lead on the 24pin connector.
I won't stop you.LAN idea is unfortunately a no-go. Whilst parents don't completely object to letting me game, they aren't exactly fans of it. Hence, not ever going to be able to go to a LAN whilst I'm under this roof.
Mum's PhD is in research microbiology, specifically microbes that cause food poisoning.
Dad's is in Physical Engineering (he's done very well for himself, effectively came from lower class working family).
I have used that argument with laptops, but they reason that I'll be home most weekends to see the girlfriend (lives in same area, and is 1 year younger - waits for
He's a paedo ) so laptop won't be stuck there over the weekends. Naive imo, but that's their (own certainly my mums viewpoint).Broken capacitor sounds a good idea (but how would I explain it), as does swapping a red and yellow lead on the 24pin connector.
caps die/melt/explode/burn up/pop/fly off/disintegrate on components all the time, no need to explain it beyond WTF WHY IT NO WORK?
Although finding the right cap might be hard, since some boards have extra ones on so that they can take failures of a few. Since youll be getting a new machine, id just short out the cpu/mobo. To avoid breaking anything else just unplug your drives etc when you do it, then put it all back together and then act all surprised and confused, or get some electrically conductive thermal paste and put it on somewhere where it would like it would have possibly spread to by itself, but i guess that would have happened already since its so old.
So yea, I think the CPU trick would be good, either that or whack on the highest overclock you can at least to shorten its lifespan as much as possible, althuogh northwoods are nigh on indestructable - how I learned how to OC by just upping volts and fsb until it wouldnt boot, then going back a step and playing lol.
Although finding the right cap might be hard, since some boards have extra ones on so that they can take failures of a few. Since youll be getting a new machine, id just short out the cpu/mobo. To avoid breaking anything else just unplug your drives etc when you do it, then put it all back together and then act all surprised and confused, or get some electrically conductive thermal paste and put it on somewhere where it would like it would have possibly spread to by itself, but i guess that would have happened already since its so old.
So yea, I think the CPU trick would be good, either that or whack on the highest overclock you can at least to shorten its lifespan as much as possible, althuogh northwoods are nigh on indestructable - how I learned how to OC by just upping volts and fsb until it wouldnt boot, then going back a step and playing lol.
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Chemical, feel free mate
LAN idea is unfortunately a no-go. Whilst parents don't completely object to letting me game, they aren't exactly fans of it. Hence, not ever going to be able to go to a LAN whilst I'm under this roof.
Mum's PhD is in research microbiology, specifically microbes that cause food poisoning.
Dad's is in Physical Engineering (he's done very well for himself, effectively came from lower class working family).
I have used that argument with laptops, but they reason that I'll be home most weekends to see the girlfriend (lives in same area, and is 1 year younger - waits for
Broken capacitor sounds a good idea (but how would I explain it), as does swapping a red and yellow lead on the 24pin connector.
At uni you won't be taking your laptop to lectures unless you are doing a degree which actually it is neccesary for. So really a pc at uni is fine anyway. Also I would imagine its significantly better to get a small light laptop for traveling on trains etc and a decent pc, but I guess given the parents current stance that just isn't going to happen anyway.
As for broken capacitor, well for starters your parents have to actually establish thats the problem and thats just not something you'd look for unless you knew likely problems with mobo's. Capacitors can oftern leak or go pop so it's not too hard to justify.
here is explaining what might go wrong with a capacitor, not too easy to spot really:
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=195
to be honest, if your parents dont want you spending money on a new PC whilst under their roof and following their rules, there isnt much you can do. They will notice a new rig, they just will, its a parents magic touch. Even if your mum might not know anything about computers, she will just know your doing something behind her back. She probably reads this forum haha
Once you move out it should all be ok. I would wait and then purchase it. Doesnt matter what they think then because your becoming "responsible" and if you can live on your own you can sure as hell decide how to spend your money on your own.
So wait it out a little longer and it will be worth it. Then you can game with all your mates at uni
OORRRRRRRRR
Steal a new computer from PC World and get arrested (on purpose), then blame your parents for the way they brought you up and forced you to steal in order to cope with your addiction to breaking rules and computers! 
Once you move out it should all be ok. I would wait and then purchase it. Doesnt matter what they think then because your becoming "responsible" and if you can live on your own you can sure as hell decide how to spend your money on your own.
So wait it out a little longer and it will be worth it. Then you can game with all your mates at uni
OORRRRRRRRR
Steal a new computer from PC World and get arrested (on purpose), then blame your parents for the way they brought you up and forced you to steal in order to cope with your addiction to breaking rules and computers!