just ahd to break up a dog fight

it is very dangerous to break up a dog fight, I would not advise anyone does it (however I would because im stupid)

we have a 36kg cross and I play fight very rought with her.. it is very hard to retrain even a dog thats jsut play fighting... and depending on the animal once you flick the kill switch they WILL NOT stop attacking you...

(and it hurts like hell when they bit even when it was accidently - I have a few scars)
 
I have broken up quite a few dog fights in my days in Zimbabwe, worst one was our neighbours Rhodesian Ridgeback attacking our Staffy funny enough.

Our Staff was not one of these brutes that you normally associate staffs as, she was a tad over weight, and the laziest thing ever, but she was tough as nails. The neighbours ridgeback had her around the neck and was going mental, and Jessie (our staff) was just calmly sitting there taking it, not even attempting to get loose, she actually looked quite comfortable! The Ridgeback got many a knuckle sandwiche to the forehead (Knuckles came off second best :S) Only thing that broke that dog off of Jessie was shoving a hose into its mouth.

Only injury I have sustained from breaking up a dog fight was between to Fox Terriers lol, I got the one off the other by forcing its jaws open, only for its jaw to slam closed on the gap between my thumb and forefinger, (To which I threw the offending Foxy into the nearby lake :P){Don't worry, the dogs were capable swimmers, and thats how the fight started in the first place, I was throwing sticks into the water and they would go fetch them}
 
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Sleeve88 said:
What a ridiculous thing to say. The majority of male dogs will fight another dog if he feels threatened on his territory. Never once has he shown any other form of aggression to anything. The most gentle soppy dog you can meet.
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Your dog attacking another dog like that is completely unacceptable behaviour and is not representative of properly trained dogs at all.
 
digipeep said:
Those staffie and similar type dogs are a nuisances, I'd add them to a list of banned dogs tomorrow.
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Good job it's not up to you then, Staffies are great dogs when brought up properly. It's the owners fault not the dogs, but no it's easier to blame the dog when something bad happens.
 
My boy got attacked by a staff a few months back, I had to pick him up in the end, I was kicking the staff in the face repeatedly but it barely even noticed.

I contacted the RSPCA and they stated that because it hadn't attacked me personally then there was nothing they could do, utter BS.

Glad the Rhode sorted him out :D
 
Sleeve88 said:
I ran after them shouting until my dog ran off, lol.
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Not a full-on fight, then :)

When I was a lad, two farmers lived across the village green - one with an alsation, one with a collie. The alsation got the collie one day, and was really mangling it - wouldn't let go, not even with the collie's owner booting it in the head with work boots, again and again. It was like the alsation had switched off any thought but knacking this collie. Was horrible to watch.

As soon as the alsation's owner came out and whistled, the alsation let go and went to him, like nothing had happened.
 
Alrik said:
Good job it's not up to you then, Staffies are great dogs when brought up properly. It's the owners fault not the dogs, but no it's easier to blame the dog when something bad happens.
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No they are not good dogs, and the more bad publicity they are getting the sooner we will be rid of them. Had a staff attack my dog once, the owner was fine tried to get him off my dog and eventually succeeded but just admitted that Staffs are a bit unpredictable.
 
digipeep said:
No they are not good dogs, and the more bad publicity they are getting the sooner we will be rid of them. Had a staff attack my dog once, the owner was fine tried to get him off my dog and eventually succeeded but just admitted that Staffs are a bit unpredictable.
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So your hatred is based on a personal expirience. Which is understandable but very closed minded. Any dog will attack another dog it feels threatened by, it's not breed specific.

I have 2 Staffy's, one is crossed with a bulldog. They're both the biggest couch potatoes you'd ever see.

Our male whines his heart out if he see's another dog, all he wants to do is meet it and play, but if he's charged at like a lot of dogs do then it's a different story.

Our female is different, if she see's another dog she barks and carries on like a wingnut, but if she's charged at she runs a mile in the other direction.

Don't put a breed all in the same basket because of one incident. It's the damn media that causes half of this. All you ever hear is "Savage beast attacks loved pet". When 9 times out of 10 "scary" looking dogs are the soppiest, cuddliest dogs around.

There are plenty more aggressive dogs out there, just look at all the half pint fluff balls that think they're 10 feet tall that will snap at everything within reach.

The only difference is, one can cause more damage than the other.
 
I have no hatred against dogs Insanity, just a realist perception of dogs as a dog owner my self for 20 years.

It's understandable for you defend you favourite dog breed as a Staffy owner, but being on the wrong end of a bad experience from a Staffy encounter and reading more and more of these encounters I'm seeing a trend here and let's be brutally honest, they are nasty looking dogs that live up to their reputation.
 
They have a reputation because of **** poor owners. A bad dog is a reflection of bad ownership. When are we going to stop pussy footing around the real problem of morons owning dogs as weapons. In fact, morons owning dogs in general. Tougher sentencing for dog fighters, people using dogs as weapons, dog neglect, reintroduction of mandatory licensing with various levels dependant on the particular dogs breed as well as requiring insurance. And start prosecuting people for having "out-of-control" dogs in public areas regardless of their breed. So many times I've come across some dippy house wife with a pair or trio of labradors running amok as a pack and being aggressive to other walkers and dogs, I've had to stick my boot into a few that've snapped at my own dog. And everyone should be subject to it. From toy dogs to mastiffs. No picking on a dog because "it looks like a pitbull type" (such ignorant wording on the DDA).

There's only 4 dogs banned under the dangerous dogs act. That leaves over another 80 "molosser" type breeds that it is perfectly legal for anyone to own. That could be regarded as "pitbull types".

This is what a well reared bull breed should be like round any animal...

 
digipeep said:
I have no hatred against dogs Insanity, just a realist perception of dogs as a dog owner my self for 20 years.

It's understandable for you defend you favourite dog breed as a Staffy owner, but being on the wrong end of a bad experience from a Staffy encounter and reading more and more of these encounters I'm seeing a trend here and let's be brutally honest, they are nasty looking dogs that live up to their reputation.
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I didn't say you had a hatred against dogs, but you do have something against specific breeds.

Yes i am a Staffy owner, i would also be a Mastiff own if my yard was big enough.

Regardless of what you think they look like, you can't say they live up to their reputation, because all dogs have the same sort of mentality, instinct etc... the only thing is some breeds are honed in on specific areas, whether it be speed, strength or whatever. But at the end of the day, a new born pup doesn't look upon the world as something it has to kill and destroy regardless of the breed, it's the dogs upbringing that dictates it's personality. It's media blow up that gives them any type of reputation. You never hear of a Jack Russell shreading a Mastiff to death. Why? Because they physically can't... but if they physically could, and had the wrong temperment, they would.

But as i said before, all dog's will lash out when confronted or threatened, it's just that some are built to handle it better than others. It's in their nature to scrap, it shows who the pack leader is. But there's a difference between scrapping and aggressive fighting... it's up to the owner to be the pack leader and stamp out aggression towards other dogs.

My dogs scrap all the time. To an outsider it'd look like they're trying to rip eachother apart, but amoungst all the growling, barking, teeth showing, snapping and rough housing, they don't actually bite eachother... aside from trying mung on eachothers ears.
 
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Anominity said:
I have broken up quite a few dog fights in my days in Zimbabwe, worst one was our neighbours Rhodesian Ridgeback attacking our Staffy funny enough.

Our Staff was not one of these brutes that you normally associate staffs as, she was a tad over weight, and the laziest thing ever, but she was tough as nails. The neighbours ridgeback had her around the neck and was going mental, and Jessie (our staff) was just calmly sitting there taking it, not even attempting to get loose, she actually looked quite comfortable! The Ridgeback got many a knuckle sandwiche to the forehead (Knuckles came off second best :S) Only thing that broke that dog off of Jessie was shoving a hose into its mouth.

Only injury I have sustained from breaking up a dog fight was between to Fox Terriers lol, I got the one off the other by forcing its jaws open, only for its jaw to slam closed on the gap between my thumb and forefinger, (To which I threw the offending Foxy into the nearby lake :P){Don't worry, the dogs were capable swimmers, and thats how the fight started in the first place, I was throwing sticks into the water and they would go fetch them}
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Hmmm... I used to live in Zimbabwe and we had ridgebacks - tell me, did you live in Monovale? did the ridgeback in question not actually have the ridge?

singist said:
It's a shame that they have been bred with spins bifida to give that ridge though; breeders have been known to put down dogs without the ridge ie perfectly healthy animals, in favour of keeping the diseased ones.
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What twaddle! Ridgebacks with the ridge are perfectly healthy compared with ridgeless ones - which are not all put down - our Male Ridgeback (we had two, a male and a female) did not have the ridge and our female ridgeback was just as healthy if not more so.
 
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digipeep said:
No they are not good dogs, and the more bad publicity they are getting the sooner we will be rid of them. Had a staff attack my dog once, the owner was fine tried to get him off my dog and eventually succeeded but just admitted that Staffs are a bit unpredictable.
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Utter tosh. I've got a 1 year old staffie cross that weighs over 30kg and he's as soft as anything around people and other dogs. He's also the laziest dog in the world. When he was younger he used to try and bite me to show dominance, but now he knows where his place is and we can allow the kids in the area to fuss him and they love him.

Staffie's have a bad rep due to moronic owners not taking the time to train them properly and yet all the staffies I see where I live are well behaved as they aren't owned by chavs who want them to intimidate people.

You sound like a Daily Mail reader who wants to ban things regardless.
 
Wossi said:
Utter tosh. I've got a 1 year old staffie cross that weighs over 30kg
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What's he crossed with??? I had a full size English bull terrier a couple years back and at his peak weight he was about 4 stone or maybe a bit heavier. That's a full size, not a miniature. A near 5 stone staffy cross is a brute of a dog lol.
 
Brian8bit said:
What's he crossed with??? I had a full size English bull terrier a couple years back and at his peak weight he was about 4 stone or maybe a bit heavier. That's a full size, not a miniature. A near 5 stone staffy cross is a brute of a dog lol.
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No idea at all, at 4 months old he was tiny but he kept growing, it is funny when we see other staffies out and about as they look tiny compared to him. According to the vets he's the perfect weight for his size.

When we first got him:
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As he is now, that rug is not small:
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Great looking dog! Staffs and English bull terriers are great when they're pups because everything just looks to big for them. Their heads, ears, paws. They don't have fill out though!
 
PapaLazaru said:
The staffies I have met in the locals pubs are always very friendly and timid, then again, I don't go to chavvy pubs.
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If a dog is allowed in a pub, then I wouldn't call it a high class establishment.

Staffies are great dogs, I'm very much in the "No such thing as a bad dog, only poor owners" camp.

The girls sister has a staff and it's a lovely wee thing. Staffies have been widely accepted as good with children.
 
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