Brian Cox series on BBC

I love the series, but then I would being an avid astronomer myself (so you all gonna call me names too then? lol). He's good at what he does, and the show is provoking debate across the country. I cant remember the last time an astronomy programme got a prime time evening slot on the BBC. Its all good for astronomy so im happy what anyone thinks :-D

Matt
 
I love the series, but then I would being an avid astronomer myself (so you all gonna call me names too then? lol). He's good at what he does, and the show is provoking debate across the country. I cant remember the last time an astronomy programme got a prime time evening slot on the BBC. Its all good for astronomy so im happy what anyone thinks :-D

Matt

The Planets or Space with Sam Neil. They both had prime time slots, Space even made it to BBC 1 if i remember correctly.

The Planets is fantastic for anyone who hasnt seen it, the music in it is wonderful.
 
I like him, he's easy to listen too and clearly enjoyed making programmes which are entertaining as well as educational. Must like the Great Attenbourgh, who always comes across as talking to you on equal terms.

I hope Prof. Cox is doing these for many years to come.
 
I think stephen hawkings universe is at a low enough level.
The lack of graphics in Coxs makes it harder to understand and the sand dune arty shorts really irritates me, as does his slow speaking and pauses. Which hasn't got anything to do with dumbing it down.
 
Yes but if he presented it to your specific standards then the remainder of the general population would not be able to view it in the prime time slot it's in and so it reverts to the niche viewing audience that other programmes in this subject apply to.
 
Sorry, I meant papers/journals. :)
You read high level research journals, which require a subscription (or are $30 a paper!), for fun? Or do you mean his other books, which are on the scale of things just as devoid of mathematics as the Brian Cox documentary? There's a world of difference between papers in journals and the books Hawking or any other theoretical physicist writes. In "A Brief History of Time" Hawking comments how he's been told that each equation he puts in will half the sales of the book, so he puts in just one (E=mcˆ2). Contrast that to papers he's got on ArXiv and you'll see that if he wrote books like he writes papers he'd sell about 0.0000001 books.

The stuff in his papers and the papers of other well known physicists who typically appear or are mentioned in those documentaries are extremely high level (else they'd not be the top theoretical physicists!). There's plenty of other academic physicists who don't full understand such work.

The whole point of pop science books or documentaries is to strip away all the details and just give the most superficial of overviews. Any mathematics which appears in them is almost never beyond A Level or perhaps 1st year undergrads and even then you're just given an equation, not what the specific terms mean or how to manipulate or apply it.

Pop science books/documentaries are brilliant for getting people interested but once you've thought "I'd like to know more" and you open a textbook book entitled "An Introduction to...." pop science rapidly becomes repetitive. After all, its aim is to explain the fundamentals of science and the cutting edge of research is a long long way past the fundamentals.
 
really? compared to the Stephen Hawking's Universe series, it's very long winded and boring. Far to many arty shots of him in a sand dune for no reason and far to, well sounding slightly special and slow. In fact I haven't been able to sit through an entire episode yet, all though I keep trying.


Not talking about the TV series am I. The bloke himself is awesome.
 
You read high level research journals, which require a subscription (or are $30 a paper!), for fun? Or do you mean his other books, which are on the scale of things just as devoid of mathematics as the Brian Cox documentary? There's a world of difference between papers in journals and the books Hawking or any other theoretical physicist writes. In "A Brief History of Time" Hawking comments how he's been told that each equation he puts in will half the sales of the book, so he puts in just one (E=mcˆ2). Contrast that to papers he's got on ArXiv and you'll see that if he wrote books like he writes papers he'd sell about 0.0000001 books.

The stuff in his papers and the papers of other well known physicists who typically appear or are mentioned in those documentaries are extremely high level (else they'd not be the top theoretical physicists!). There's plenty of other academic physicists who don't full understand such work.

The whole point of pop science books or documentaries is to strip away all the details and just give the most superficial of overviews. Any mathematics which appears in them is almost never beyond A Level or perhaps 1st year undergrads and even then you're just given an equation, not what the specific terms mean or how to manipulate or apply it.

Pop science books/documentaries are brilliant for getting people interested but once you've thought "I'd like to know more" and you open a textbook book entitled "An Introduction to...." pop science rapidly becomes repetitive. After all, its aim is to explain the fundamentals of science and the cutting edge of research is a long long way past the fundamentals.

A family friend works in the field and had copies - we had a chat about his book which I said I found really interesting and wondered if there was any other released work - to which he offered the papers. Don't get me wrong I only understood about 50% of it, but yeah I read it for fun. I like to have my mind blown. :) I''ve got some of Einstein's books on relativity where he goes in at quite a decent level of detail, again beyond my relams of mathematics, but still enough for me to "get it".

I fully appreciate what you're saying, and I don't think that it would make TV to have full theoretical physics explained to a deep line by line mathematical model of each astronomical phenomena - that would be too much. Brian Cox makes it simple, but his analogies are a little too "out there" - a little more hard fact and actual explanation rather than story telling would help. His solar system series was a bit less arty and more in depth IMO. I have a huge interest in astronomy (I don't talk much about it because it's one of the things I just like for myself) and I just want to have my mind blown - I'm already in awe of all that's around us, I just like to be reminded of it! :)
 
Smart guy talking the **** out of the BBC having them fly him all over the world and getting paid very well to to see some stunning parts of the world.

Fair dues I say.... saying thay after 1 1/2 episodes of the secomd series I started to fall asleep.
 
You've got a long way to go Brian... Carl Sagan is still the daddy.

Amen to that!

Cox lacks the sonorous, almost hypnotic, quality of the late, great, carl sagan.

Though you can clearly see the roots of his enjoyment and enthusiasm for the subject; his deferment to 'standing on the shoulders of giants' by showing a dog-eared and much used hardback copy of Cosmos, that sparked his interest as a child.
Cox might be a smart guy with a bbc tv series, but that little bit of humility will go a long way. I like that.

Programming is different these days - have you noticed that many of the best science and nature programs around today have as much a visual aspect to hold the viewers attention, as insightful dialogue? Such programs are made to be easy to watch; you sit back and absorb the show.
I found Cosmos to be just as captivating, but it required a little more concentration, longevity of thought. But that was the quality that made carl sagan such a fantastic communicator of ideas.

I hope brian continues doing what he is doing. He might have a lot to live up to, but he's certainly following the right footsteps.
 
I'm not at all implying it was easy going or I understood it or it was bedside reading at all! Please please don't think I'm a physics genius, I really am not (only got a B at A level 12+ years ago!). Happy to admit that I skipped big wads of items that were beyond me - however, I was in the fortunate situation of being able to have a look through his papers (thanks to a family friend that works in the field - with whom I was able to discuss it (which I regretted as I felt very very out of my league afterwards! :o), and whilst most the maths was beyond me, the explanations and theories weren't difficult to follow - and that's the bit that I'm interested in, the theories, the dreaming the cogitating as to "what if" etc... :)

The stuff I'm more interested in is items more linked to astronomy rather than new mathematical applications. MAthematical interpretations of phenomena means less to me than the explanation - however, a lot of tv programs, go far too shallow, and state, this happens because that happens, next.... I want more! I want to know why it happens! :)

Heck even relativity is easy enough, the maths behind is is monsterous, but the basic theory in itself is actually quite neat and easy to follow. That's what I've been meaning by the comments of more in depth explanation with new theories and ideas. :)
 
Brian Cox is good at explaining things, there are not that many physicists that are that good at explanations to the layman.
The program is not that complex, but it is going to blow the mind to someone who does not even study physics.
Has he got into relativity yet? Have not been watching it that much but if he will or/brought up it, it is going to make a few heads explode including my parents.
 
He's growing on me, despite being a bit northern... Much of the content of his shows is just recycled guff, but he sells it well enough. To give him credit he actually explained the idea of an inflationary universe in such a way, that for the first time I felt I could just about get my head around it.

Or it may have been the wine messing with my head... :D


I think his next series should either be about his black hole machine, or a guide to keyboard playing.
 
Brian Cox is good at explaining things, there are not that many physicists that are that good at explanations to the layman.

I've seen Brian at the National Geographic Society recently. I thought his TV shows might be a bit scripted, but seeing his response to audience questions has convinced me this isn't the case.
 
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