** Summer Transfer Window 2011/12 Season Rumours/Signings **

[BaZ87]

Bad news for Tombstone, Defour has signed a new contract with Liege.

I think he kept his options open until United were openly seen to be courting somebody else and Livermule's new sugar daddies openly talked about their 'ambition' for the club in concrete terms (which Reina mentions), which I think is fair comment as why not 'quash the rumours' earlier then if it's not so clearly not happening Pepe? The rumours have been around for a while and Baz was moaning about it on here before.

He just doesn't understand United's allure... sure they might be the enemies of airport security everywhere due to all that metal swinging from their chests come May, but that's a small price for 'The Glory' (TM) and Pepe knows that...

Yes, because Utd were the only club that could have been interested in him and the only club he would have joined?

Reina didn't commit his future to Liverpool because I assume he was undecided about whether or not to stay. Just because he failed the commit his future to Liverpool earlier it does not mean he was open to joining Utd.

 

[Pigeon_Killer]

As we all know, sometimes a move doesnt work out well for a player, but that in itself is not an indication that the player in question is naff.

He wasn't great at Palermo, he wasn't great at the World Cup and he's not playing well in an underperforming Wolfsburg team. He appears to have earned a tag of 'highly rated' without actually playing that well anywhere and I wouldn't be happy to see us sign him then play him ahead of Carragher, Skrtel, Agger or Kelly until he proves himself.

 

[Tummy]

mentioning welbeck is instant fail imo - Welbeck for me is going to be another Richardson, flatters to deceive in a major way

S'not what all the United fans were saying last season, him and Macheda were "world class" youngsters

 

[Tombstone]

Bad news for Tombstone, Defour has signed a new contract with Liege.


Yes, because Utd were the only club that could have been interested in him and the only club he would have joined?

Reina didn't commit his future to Liverpool because I assume he was undecided about whether or not to stay. Just because he failed the commit his future to Liverpool earlier it does not mean he was open to joining Utd.

Awww damnit...Defour was one of the three I have long wanted us to sign !! (Kjaer and Honda being the other two). Thats annoying.

 

[Tombstone]

He wasn't great at Palermo, he wasn't great at the World Cup and he's not playing well in an underperforming Wolfsburg team. He appears to have earned a tag of 'highly rated' without actually playing that well anywhere and I wouldn't be happy to see us sign him then play him ahead of Carragher, Skrtel, Agger or Kelly until he proves himself.

Personally I thought he was terrific at Palermo, I will concede he wasnt particularly special at the World Cup, but then quite a lot of very good players werent particularly special at the World Cup.

 

[BaZ87]

Awww damnit...Defour was one of the three I have long wanted us to sign !! (Kjaer and Honda being the other two). Thats annoying.

After reading what Comolli said regarding injured players costing clubs too much money, I don't think we'd have gone for him regardless.

 

[Pigeon_Killer]

Personally I thought he was terrific at Palermo, I will concede he wasnt particularly special at the World Cup, but then quite a lot of very good players werent particularly special at the World Cup.

He certainly has the attributes to be a good defender and he's the type of player our owners and Comolli appear to be targeting but he'd cost a lot and demand a first team place and I don't think he's ready for it yet. Turan on the other hand!

 

[Tombstone]

After reading what Comolli said regarding injured players costing clubs too much money, I don't think we'd have gone for him regardless.

Pity though, his range of passing is really quite incredible and accurate. I've long seen him as a potential natural successor (in terms of playstyle and ability) to Alonso. Nevermind, we can concentrate on signing Honda instead, blindingly creative player imo, with some pretty fantastic deadball ability , plus opens up lucrative far east financial options. If I was a defender, Suarez and Honda would scare the beejesus out of me

 

[Purdy]

I think he kept his options open until United were openly seen to be courting somebody else and Livermule's new sugar daddies openly talked about their 'ambition' for the club in concrete terms (which Reina mentions), which I think is fair comment as why not 'quash the rumours' earlier then if it's not so clearly not happening Pepe? The rumours have been around for a while and Baz was moaning about it on here before.

He just doesn't understand United's allure... sure they might be the enemies of airport security everywhere due to all that metal swinging from their chests come May, but that's a small price for 'The Glory' (TM) and Pepe knows that...

United didn't want the best keeper they could possibly get then ?

 

[DanH84]

S'not what all the United fans were saying last season, him and Macheda were "world class" youngsters

Macheda I'll give you but a lot of United fans didn't rate Welbeck last season and it's only his performances at Sunderland which have kind of sold us on him.

 

[Tummy]

Not what a lot of United fans were saying on here either last season or the season before, World Class youngsters in the wings don't need to sign any forwards ect ect

 

[Shamikebab]

Welbeck has been better than Macheda for ages, Macheda is really living off that goal tbh.

 

[Tummy]

mmhmm.

 

[The Running Man]

S'not what all the United fans were saying last season, him and Macheda were "world class" youngsters

Not in my vocabulary they weren't. I think i dubbed him, 'Smellbeck' because his footballing ability wreaks of 2nd class.

Macheda is too static and simply not good enough to be the top 1% of footballers, which ultimately you'd have to be to make it as a striker at UTD. Yes he smacked a couple of goals in, i give him that but honestly, when you look further afield and can buy players like Hernandez then he doesnt figure in UTD's plans at all... surely..

 

[The Running Man]

If Fabregas is sold for £35m it will be a disgrace. He's worth much more than that to us, and well .. to any other club in the world bar Barca.

Sahin is a decent prospect, not exactly the finished article but a really decent player and one who you'd expect to be a big name in 5 years

dont get me wrong, i think fabregas is, or at least was ace. But i dont know if his legs have gone, too much too soon. Burn out? whatever. But todays fabregas isnt the fabregas of 2 years ago.

 

[Stag]

His hearts not in it.

 

[guyfawkes5]

Yes, because Utd were the only club that could have been interested in him and the only club he would have joined?

Reina didn't commit his future to Liverpool because I assume he was undecided about whether or not to stay. Just because he failed the commit his future to Liverpool earlier it does not mean he was open to joining Utd.

Who said he was hoping for only United? You said yourself he was probably keeping his options open, and the rumours about United persisted without him quashing him long enough for it to be reasonable to think it was an avenue, of many, open to him at the time.

United didn't want the best keeper they could possibly get then ?

Value is relative to price, something Liverdrool clearly missed the boat on this January...

 

[BaZ87]

Who said he was hoping for only United? You said yourself he was probably keeping his options open, and the rumours about United persisted without him quashing him long enough for it to be reasonable to think it was an avenue, of many, open to him at the time.

So you expected him to come out and rule out individual clubs one at a time? Had Reina came out and said I'm not joining Utd but I'm not committing to Liverpool, the conclusion would have been he's off to Arsenal or whoever.

Not only do I doubt Reina would have ever considered that 'avenue' but I doubt that 'avenue' ever existed so there would have been nothing to consider. There's no way we'd have willingly sold to you and although it's rumoured he's got a clause in his deal, the talk at the time of Torres's move to Chelsea was that his clause excluded Utd, I assume the same would apply to Reina's.

 

[atpbx]

S'not what all the United fans were saying last season, him and Macheda were "world class" youngsters

No, not Welbeck.

Getting a little over excited about Macheda mabye, but Welbeck other than scoring a screamer towards the end of one his league games did the sum total of **** all when he took to the field for United, Bambi on Ice is probably over used a bit when talking about footballers, but if one player looked completely lost and out of his depth it was Welbeck.

Bruce must have put something is tea, because he never showed he could play anything like he does for Sunderland.

 

[FrankJH]

S'not what all the United fans were saying last season, him and Macheda were "world class" youngsters

Welbeck was farmed out after doing naff all and hardly getting a game

Macheda looked decent enough two seasons ago and probably fair to say he won Utd the title with two critical goals late in the season, but didnt improve at all last season, and will in all liklihood be sold in the summer imo


Some players just cant handle the pressure at OT, and thats why its rare for Utd kids to go straight into the main squad. Most are given 1st team experience away from the spotlight