** Summer Transfer Window 2011/12 Season Rumours/Signings **

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Tom84 said:
Obviously his goal return wont be great and that will give his haters their ammunition again but I certainly dont see him leaving, I suspect we'll agree terms with him for a 2/3 year extension in the summer taking him up to 33.
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As with all over 30's the club will only offer 1 year extensions, I understand this to be the real bone of contention and why Berba probably wont be at Utd next season (he wants a 2 year deal at least). Also while we have supposedly a lot of cash available for transfers, I would be surprised if Utd didnt want to get 30%-50% back on the original transfer while they still can and try Diouf or A N Other option we dont yet know about (costing less in wages, and happier on the bench)

I also wouldnt be that surprised if the Verane aquisition (if it is completed of course) will mean the club drops all interest in Rodwell for the forseeable future. The former sounds like he can play as full back, centre back and defensive mid to a very good level already and for less than 1/2 the cost of Rodwell (at absolute max, and some reports say even less than 1/4 of the price)

I just dont know how Welbeck will get enough games to keep him happy. Not sugggesting he has ever been stroppy or anythng, but after being 1st pick for Sunderland (or near enough) to be 3rd choice right wing or 3rd /4th choice striker (at best) I cant see him remaining happy with CC, early FA Cup games and the odd EPL game... just doenst make sense .....I cant recall him ever playing on the left to much success but if thats an option then so be it but its still a stretch if you ask me :)

With Giggs , Anderson and Cleverly (and Gibson if you insist lol) in the AM role, one "super" experienced signing would actually balance the squad out a great deal , but with Giggs playing 1 in 3 games experience would fall too dramatically for my liking when he isnt playing for the team to be a real concern in such a crucual area.

The more I think about it the more I actually want any one else to buy Young, decent player but can be inconsistant , and while the left wing is a weak spot for Utd Im not sure Young will do much good (but if Utd do get him, I will keep an open mind) - but that would also kind of indicate that there would be no central midfield addition which would be a huge concern
 
G|mp said:
That's been done for a couple of months I think, sounds decent from what I've heard and 6'3 at 18 :eek:

He's a cheaper option to Rodwell I'm hoping.

No idea why Wenger didn't go for him, young, French, gifted CB :confused:
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Probably because he's a gifted CB
 
BaZ87 said:
Was Rodwell being lined up as a CB though? He's played near enough all his games in midfield for Everton.
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This fella can play as a DM as well, strikes me that we have gone for him as a cheaper alternative given that Everton want some ridiculous price for Rodwell (who I don't think is as good as Everton think he is)
 
cm1179 said:
i'd be gutted if we signed parker, i'd rather charlie adam than him!
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Well as I said, I wouldn't mind us signing Parker, it's just I don't think we need too much more in midfield. Charlie Adam would be a great addition to I agree. To land both of them would be good. But automatically you could be looking at £15m+ for two midfielders when our midfield isn't really our weakest spot.

We need a more clinical striker to put them in. Someone big and powerful in my opinion because Crouch just doesn't cut it for me. Got nothing against him, he's just not strong enough in the air. Kenwyne Jones or Adebayor would be more to my liking (As a Spurs fan I know that is akin to blasphemy to please forgive me.). And then we need another solid CB because I fear King might have to play every other week and that leaves us with Kaboul, Dawson and Bassong. The latter of which I don't think 'Arry trusts and Woodgate is a gone I think.


BaZ87 said:
He's as good if not better than what Arsenal, Spurs, ourselves have got and all City's cb's other than Kompany. It's only Utd and Chelsea that he wouldn't get into their first teams (although would be a good first change). Agree he's not worth the figures being touted about though and because of that, I'd rather go for somebody a bit younger like Jones from Blackburn (who looks class).
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As above because we need a new CB i'd love to see either Cahill join us or Samba. I think either of those two should help Spurs defensive woes. And whilst on the defensive issue if we're getting rid of Hutton as well, we should seek to sign Seamus Coleman.
 
Tombstone said:
I wouldn't be surprised if spurs signed Sturridge. I really can't see him getting the kinds of first team assurances he will be seeking at chelsea and he strikes me as the sort of player redknapp would go for.
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Sturridge is going nowhere this summer. He'll be at chelsea next season - you're right that if he doesn't get first team action he'll leave but that wouldn't be until next summer. And with us lacking a decent right sided attacking player, he could well get into the first team...

Chelsea

In: Van der Weil, Neymar

Out: Drogba, Zhirkov, Bosingwa, Kalou
 
G|mp said:
That's been done for a couple of months I think, sounds decent from what I've heard and 6'3 at 18 :eek:

He's a cheaper option to Rodwell I'm hoping.

No idea why Wenger didn't go for him, young, French, gifted CB :confused:
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He obviously decided that Koscielny fitted that criteria :o
 
FrankJH said:
As with all over 30's the club will only offer 1 year extensions, I understand this to be the real bone of contention and why Berba probably wont be at Utd next season (he wants a 2 year deal at least).
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I really dont understand where you get all your probably logic from tbh, I may be wrong here but I dont think the 1 year extension comes into effect the minute a player turns 30, maybe 32/33 but Berbatov has only just turned 30
 
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explicit4u said:
If we had some silverware we'd probably be one of the best run clubs in the world! :(
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Not really, afaik these numbers are end of last season, and almost completely irrelevant.

156mil income from property developement, problem is, almost every single flat is sold now, theres not much more to come from property for Arsenal, take 156mil out of those numbers and our numbers don't look particularly good at all.

Lots of the numbers will be radically different this season, for a lot of the clubs there. Arsenal's midseason results were posting a small loss already IIRC, so rather than 50mil profit over a few seasons like we've had, we'll probably come close to breaking even, or even make a loss. Nasri's supposedly going from around 2.5mil a year to around 4.5, RVP is supposedly getting a 1mil bump in salary. Most players will get a usual pay rise. If Kronke wants to fund some transfers, thats fine, but thats essentially counted as debt on the club in terms of the fair play rules(which might be irrelevant), or we might have to sell players to buy anyone, who knows.

Wolves made a 9mil profit, but how much of a pay rise did everyone get for staying in the league, how much of a normal payrise did they get, how many extra wages went on the books this season.

Fletcher cost 6.5mil, Hunt cost a few mil didn't he, you'd expect the to be on 20-40k a week being more senior players, bigger deals than usual. Those two alone could be sucking an extra 4mil a season out of the club before you factor in the transfer fee's and signing on bonus's.

Basically most of the numbers there won't be relevant for what they can do over summer.
 
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Tom84 said:
I really dont understand where you get all your probably logic from tbh, I may be wrong here but I dont think the 1 year extension comes into effect the minute a player turns 30, maybe 32/33 but Berbatov has only just turned 30
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I dont think the club are going to be prepared to pay a player on the wages he is on to sit on the bench.

He isnt going to get any better, and the fact that in 3 seasons he has effectively been dropped at the most important parts of the season because he cant be relied upon will have a major say in where his future lies.
What ever reasons you want to come up with for him being dropped, not scoring enough goals and being lazy in his first season, Rooney playing better on his own up front with out him, Hernadez and Rooney playing well together, they all have the same thing in common, they all involved him not playing and the team being better for it.
 
cm1179 said:
hernandez does look like a good prospect but it's a bit early to judge him properly. one injury and his form may never return. defoe is still a 20 league goals a season player i reckon, just can't see it happening at spurs with how vdv plays.
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Sorry, which seasons has Defoe scored 20 league goals in?
 
atpbx said:
I dont think the club are going to be prepared to pay a player on the wages he is on to sit on the bench.

He isnt going to get any better, and the fact that in 3 seasons he has effectively been dropped at the most important parts of the season because he cant be relied upon will have a major say in where his future lies.
What ever reasons you want to come up with for him being dropped, not scoring enough goals and being lazy in his first season, Rooney playing better on his own up front with out him, Hernadez and Rooney playing well together, they all have the same thing in common, they all involved him not playing and the team being better for it.
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In games where Rooney and Berbatov have played together the latter has scored 3 goals against Liverpool, 5 against Blackburn and 3 against Birmingham among others. Not sure how you've come to the conclusion that the team plays better without Berbatov in the starting XI

Regardless of the above this discussion isn't about who we play better with in the team it's about whether or not Berbatov will still be at the club next season.... which he will be :)
 
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