** Summer Transfer Window 2011/12 Season Rumours/Signings **

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As far as I can tell, 18 was his total for the league last year which is the most he has ever scored.

For an "out and out" striker, who adds very little to the team otherwise, he doesn't score enough goals.
 
I dont think the club are going to be prepared to pay a player on the wages he is on to sit on the bench.

He isnt going to get any better, and the fact that in 3 seasons he has effectively been dropped at the most important parts of the season because he cant be relied upon will have a major say in where his future lies.
What ever reasons you want to come up with for him being dropped, not scoring enough goals and being lazy in his first season, Rooney playing better on his own up front with out him, Hernadez and Rooney playing well together, they all have the same thing in common, they all involved him not playing and the team being better for it.

Sounds like our issue with Darren Bent...
 
In games where Rooney and Berbatov have played together the latter has scored 3 goals against Liverpool, 5 against Blackburn and 3 against Birmingham among others. Not sure how you've come to the conclusion that the team plays better without Berbatov in the starting XI

Regardless of the above this discussion isn't about who we play better with in the team it's about whether or not Berbatov will still be at the club next season.... which he will be :)

So............. you know better than Fergie now do you?

The great man has consistently dropped him for the important games, in fact dropped him completely after his no show against City in the FA cup semi final, and he didnt get a look in in any of the games at the end of the season when we needed to get a result.

I think that, combined with the fact that they simply wont offer him a long term contract points to him packing his bags, hopefully back to Spurs.
 
As far as I can tell, 18 was his total for the league last year which is the most he has ever scored.

For an "out and out" striker, who adds very little to the team otherwise, he doesn't score enough goals.

He has never scored a huge amount of goals, but there are very few players that consistently do it either.
He does quite well for someone who has virtually nothing going for him, short, not great in the air, not really that quick, not all that much skill and not really that strong either.
 
So............. you know better than Fergie now do you?

The great man has consistently dropped him for the important games, in fact dropped him completely after his no show against City in the FA cup semi final, and he didnt get a look in in any of the games at the end of the season when we needed to get a result.

I think that, combined with the fact that they simply wont offer him a long term contract points to him packing his bags, hopefully back to Spurs.

I'd say the fact that we've won a large amount of big games at the tail end of the season proves Fergie was justified in playing Rooney and Hernandez, but that doesn't suddenly make all the important games Berbatov did play in at the start of the season miraculously fail to exist anymore.

I'd say Berbatov's contribution this season doesn't need defending, and if you cant appreciate his contribution well we wont go there will we.

Lets just say come August when he's still at the club and when he signs a new deal with the club I'll be sure to use your favourite line ;)
 
Good source (yes he's on twitter, has 100% record this year though on correct early calls) say:
LFC have enquired over Aguero, as have City and Spurs.
Madrid are looking to offload Benzema to make funds to buy "someone else", guessing Llorente.
No one's made any offers for Mata, yet.
A. Young has been dealing with a few clubs. LFC, Spurs.
Matuidi to LFC looks pretty likely.
LFC have made offer for Hazard formally, Arsenal have not but player is waiting for Arsenal interest <-- he's set on going there it seems.
Arsenal are trying to offload Arshavin and Clichy, funds from this probably tied to Hazard purchase.
LFC in 'regular contact' with clubs over G.Cahill and C.Adam.
Also been told LFC interested in McCarthy from Wigan, and Mouassa Sissoko
 
still can't see why liverpool would go for Aguero when they obviously need to strengthen elsewhere far more.

Aguero looked pretty tasty playing wide in a 4-3-3 for Argentina though.
Or a 4-2-3-1?

..............Carroll
Suarez....Aguero......Other

Fits the Kenny style, with one 'wide' man cutting in and one proper 'winger'.
 
Hopefully Tevez makes his mind up soon so we can nab Aguero before Liverpool.

Aguero a very similar player to Tevez although without such a high work rate although i can only think of one striker who does. Both very good with the ball and would work with well with Balo or Dzeko.
 
Good source...

Pault86 aka Tommo from RAWK? He's not a good source, he's a ****. He throws out so much **** that the odd piece is bound to stick. He quite literally linked us with 20 odd players in 2 posts on RAWK a while back as well as saying that Reina was both staying and leaving.

I'm not sure what's more embarrassing, his BS or the amount of people that believe him.
 
Good source (yes he's on twitter, has 100% record this year though on correct early calls) say:
LFC have enquired over Aguero, as have City and Spurs.
Madrid are looking to offload Benzema to make funds to buy "someone else", guessing Llorente.
No one's made any offers for Mata, yet.
A. Young has been dealing with a few clubs. LFC, Spurs.
Matuidi to LFC looks pretty likely.
LFC have made offer for Hazard formally, Arsenal have not but player is waiting for Arsenal interest <-- he's set on going there it seems.
Arsenal are trying to offload Arshavin and Clichy, funds from this probably tied to Hazard purchase.
LFC in 'regular contact' with clubs over G.Cahill and C.Adam.
Also been told LFC interested in McCarthy from Wigan, and Mouassa Sissoko

Not really sure what to make of those...

To be honest, I dont think I want Aguero.
A. Young I am fairly apathetic about, can take or leave that transfer.
Matuidi I'd be pretty happy about.
Hazard I'm not sure on, could take or leave that one, but as you say, I dont think he is interested in us anyway.
I dont really want Cahill.
Adam I'd be reasonably happy about.
Mccarthy I'd be reasonably happy with, but frankly if we are talking to Wigan about anyone it should be N'zogbia not Mccarthy.
Sissoko I can take or leave too.
 
Good source (yes he's on twitter, has 100% record this year though on correct early calls) say:
LFC have enquired over Aguero, as have City and Spurs.
Madrid are looking to offload Benzema to make funds to buy "someone else", guessing Llorente.
No one's made any offers for Mata, yet.
A. Young has been dealing with a few clubs. LFC, Spurs.
Matuidi to LFC looks pretty likely.
LFC have made offer for Hazard formally, Arsenal have not but player is waiting for Arsenal interest <-- he's set on going there it seems.
Arsenal are trying to offload Arshavin and Clichy, funds from this probably tied to Hazard purchase.
LFC in 'regular contact' with clubs over G.Cahill and C.Adam.
Also been told LFC interested in McCarthy from Wigan, and Mouassa Sissoko

I'd love Aguero. I still forget how young he is.
I think A.Young would be a quality addition but fear he would to similar to Suarez.
I'd love Hazard aswell. Haven't seen him play live (except from when he faced us a few seasons ago), but he looks like a real prospect.
G.Cahill - No thanks.
Adam - Yes. Fabulous player as long as we don't over pay.

Bursting with excitement for this summer transfer window.
 
I really dont understand where you get all your probably logic from tbh, I may be wrong here but I dont think the 1 year extension comes into effect the minute a player turns 30, maybe 32/33 but Berbatov has only just turned 30

because its well known that Fergie wants more young blood in the team, and apart from Giggs (who isnt likely to go anywhere, and cost nothing to start wtih) - and Scholes who looks likely to retire for right or wrong - yes I do believe as soon as any player hits 30 , the next round of "negotiating" will be regarding 1 year ext rather than multi year ones

Rio's 5 year deal was signed just before he was 30 in 2008 I believe (but might have been a special case due to being on field captain and SAF/Gill probably knew he would be club captain shortly.)

In Berba's case, seening as he is blatantly 3rd choice striker, only had one very successful seasons so far at Utd, and possibly wanting 100k/week or more , I dont know whether it makes financial sense to sign a multi -year deal anyway (from club's point of view).

Personally if its a choice between Berba's wages or a 10-15 goal a season AM or left winger (and Berba's £10m-£15m transfer) I would choose latter every day of the week

In games where Rooney and Berbatov have played together the latter has scored 3 goals against Liverpool, 5 against Blackburn and 3 against Birmingham among others. Not sure how you've come to the conclusion that the team plays better without Berbatov in the starting XI

And lets totally forget all the matches Berba has cost Utd the game by misfiring or not turning up - he blatantly isnt reliable enough

He may score loads when he does score, but its never been consistant goals (for Utd at least) which is what his wages should be getting



edit - even in Giggs' wiki entry it says the below:

"Since 2006 After that season, Giggs signed a two-year contract extension with United when chief executive David Gill relented on his normal policy of not signing players over 30 to contracts longer than one year."

Now whether Utd plan the players previous contract to run out as near to their 31th birthday (so all re-negotiating happens around their 30th, for any potential transfer fee just in case) I have no way of knowing, but it certainly makes perfect business sense to do so where possible (given the policy stated at the club)
 
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Two interesting articles about Spurs today:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/may/19/sebastien-bassong-spurs-heaven-hell

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/new...Chelsea-star-Didier-Drogba-article738294.html

In the first one Sebastian Bassong talks about how he wants to move away if he's not going to play regularly. In the second, Tim Sherwood speaks about Defoe's frustration and gives a few hints as to Harry's plans. The article particularly points out the following:

Redknapp has already questioned the benefit of the Europa League and Sherwood revealed the Spurs boss was planning to field a team of youngsters in the tournament.

"I don't think it's an ideal competition for a team who have got aspirations of playing Champions League football next season," he said. "But it's a great opportunity to look at what we've got in reserve and I honestly believe that we have the players to step up and play."

This confirms what I said in a few posts ago. Spurs need to play all their Saturday bench warmers midweek. We can't afford not to otherwise they will become disgruntled at the lack of playing opportunities. It's also a great opportunity for players like Seb to prove to Harry that they are good enough. It's like Seb says himself, he played all last season and we got to the CL. And now he's not in the running for some reason - namely the arrival of Gallas. I personally think Gallas was a great free signing, but I don't think we should have pushed Seb out for him. We should have continued to play Seb and Dawson together because they should be able to form a solid pairing together. Then throw Kaboul, Gallas and King in the mix when we need to.
 
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