Spanish Grand Prix 2011, Circuit de Catalunya- Race 5/19
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I dislike it, they aren't a bit faster, they are way too fast.I actually love how fast that Red Bull is, it's utterly ridiculous. Nice to see Webber getting pole though, although that generally means Vettel won't win
If this continues the championship will be over when they are halfway.
RBR are super fast in qualifying, however, in the race, Ferrari and McLaren are closer to them.
Another point to note is that this is probably RBR's fastest track. Until Hungary, it is unlikely that you will see such a big gap between RBR and the next non-RBR car.
I did state this right at the beginning of this thread, that RBR will be very fast here. Other people kept their heads in the sand stating that practise times mean nothing...by hey ho.
RBR are well positioned to get a 1-2 tomorrow, however, don't count out Hamilton or Alonso. These 2 drivers are the best in F1 right now and as we have seen this year, the races are not processional and anything can happen. If Vettel is leading on lap1, then he will most likely win, but if Webber can get ahead of him on lap1, then Vettel should look very ordinary and may get beaten by Hamilton and Alonso.
Lets hope Webber can do something special tomorrow, to prevent Vettel leading on lap1. Vettel is arguably the fastest starter in F1, so it won't be easy.
Another point to note is that this is probably RBR's fastest track. Until Hungary, it is unlikely that you will see such a big gap between RBR and the next non-RBR car.
I did state this right at the beginning of this thread, that RBR will be very fast here. Other people kept their heads in the sand stating that practise times mean nothing...by hey ho.
RBR are well positioned to get a 1-2 tomorrow, however, don't count out Hamilton or Alonso. These 2 drivers are the best in F1 right now and as we have seen this year, the races are not processional and anything can happen. If Vettel is leading on lap1, then he will most likely win, but if Webber can get ahead of him on lap1, then Vettel should look very ordinary and may get beaten by Hamilton and Alonso.
Lets hope Webber can do something special tomorrow, to prevent Vettel leading on lap1. Vettel is arguably the fastest starter in F1, so it won't be easy.
What Pirelli haven't done though, that is an area for improvement, as we were all discussing previously is making the difference between hard and soft sit on that balance point where running hards and one stopping is a viable alternative to running softs and 3 stopping for example, so guys who are good with tyres can take one route and guys who like to attack take another. Have a bit of a mix up.
I fear soon, everyone will learn the tyres and we will be back to seeing everyone on the same strategy again.
I don't think they have pulled away. This track merely suits them. In the next race, you should see that 1s gap, suddenly diminish.
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Plenty of other tracks that suit them too - and they have seemed pretty strong on all tracks so far.
Based on last year's performances, Spain and Hungary were their 2 strongest tracks.
If you look at the previous 4 races which we have had so far, the distance between pole and the next non-RBR car hasn't been as great as we have seen today.
Based on this and what we saw last year, Spain is arguably RBR's strongest track and the gap between the rest and RBR hasn't actually increased. Their increased advantage is probably just because this track suits them. In the next GP, I suspect you will see Hamilton/Alonso much closer to RBR in qualifying (not because RBR have been closed down, but just because Monaco doesnt suit the RBR car as much as Barcelona does).
his kers broke
That isn't down to tyres and there is no strategy other than mess ups due to lack. Of data, that problem is receding with every race. They have a lot of work to do. The lack of data has created some interesting racing, but that has already slowed and by next year will be gone. Unless they actually create a hard tyre like they where supposed to, which lasts twice as long as the soft.
DRS just makes boring overtaking. The best rule has been banning DD which has halved the following distance.
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At the very least.
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The thing is, with Webber out infront and Ferrari in the mix it is just going to be another race where they all take points off each other and do little to catch Vettel in the process.
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I doubt they will be quite as fast in the race, but it is still a huge gap - especially considering the other teams are bringing upgrades to each race.
1. RBR are also bringing upgrades...don't for one minute think that RBR are standing still.
2. This is arguably, RBR's strongest track this season (as it was last year). So, using today's qualifying times as a guide, is a little unfair. Wait for Monaco and you should see Alonso/Hamilton challenge the RBR car. Last year, RBR were 1s/lap faster than everybody in Spain and then at Monaco, Alonso was dominating, until he crashed...so don't be disheartened.
3. For all the races so far, RBR tend to be comparatively faster during quali than in the race. So expect them not to be anywhere near 1s/lap faster than Hamilton/Alonso, tomorrow.
4. If Vettel starts tomorrow's race without KERS, he might not be leading on lap1. If this happens, there is almost zero chance of him winning and a good chance that both Alonso and Hamilton will finish ahead of him.
In summary, its not all bad.
2. This is arguably, RBR's strongest track this season (as it was last year). So, using today's qualifying times as a guide, is a little unfair. Wait for Monaco and you should see Alonso/Hamilton challenge the RBR car. Last year, RBR were 1s/lap faster than everybody in Spain and then at Monaco, Alonso was dominating, until he crashed...so don't be disheartened.
3. For all the races so far, RBR tend to be comparatively faster during quali than in the race. So expect them not to be anywhere near 1s/lap faster than Hamilton/Alonso, tomorrow.
4. If Vettel starts tomorrow's race without KERS, he might not be leading on lap1. If this happens, there is almost zero chance of him winning and a good chance that both Alonso and Hamilton will finish ahead of him.
In summary, its not all bad.
