** Summer Transfer Window 2011/12 Season Rumours/Signings **

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FrankJH said:
to be fair Mikel actually signed (and then bsack tracked - otherwise Utd wouldnt have got the millions they did)

A few websites (could well be dodgy) are saying Utd are waiting for the window to open to announce De Gea, Varane & AYoung (or :D, :D, :(:( lol)
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Didn't you say De Gea wouldn't happen Frank? On the same day that Berbatov has confirmed he'll be at the club next season as well.

I won't use atpbx's favourite phrase on you though ;)
 
Loki said:
DeGea will be a very good player for us in the long term. You can see that Fergie is looking for Evolution rather than revolution. VDS is fantastic with the ball at his feet and acts almost like a sweeper at times just picking passes to the Full Backs. DeGae looks that kind of player. Stekelnburg & Neur look too much like Schmeichel in getting the ball up front at the earliest opportunity
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I'd like to think that having seen the quality of keepers Spain have produced over recent years (Casillas, Reina, Valdes) De Gea is going to follow in their footsteps and if he does then we do have that position sorted for at least the next 10-15 years

I'm still sceptical about a 21 year old being our number 1 though especially having seen how other promising young keepers have fared during the time between Schmeichel and VDS

I guess whatever happens he can't be worse than Ricardo :cool:
 
Quite surprised really, I would really have thought a more experienced goalkeeper would join such as Stekelenburg or Lloris, who have much more experience at international and european level, and are young too.
 
Tom84 said:
I'd like to think that having seen the quality of keepers Spain have produced over recent years (Casillas, Reina, Valdes) De Gea is going to follow in their footsteps and if he does then we do have that position sorted for at least the next 10-15 years

I'm still sceptical about a 21 year old being our number 1 though especially having seen how other promising young keepers have fared during the time between Schmeichel and VDS

I guess whatever happens he can't be worse than Ricardo :cool:
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Fair point, he will mature into a very good GK. In his own right, he already is. Yes he will drop a few gaffs but considering the fees players are going for, £18m represents good value for a player many many years off his peak
 
Loki said:
Fair point, he will mature into a very good GK. In his own right, he already is. Yes he will drop a few gaffs but considering the fees players are going for, £18m represents good value for a player many many years off his peak
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It only represents good value if he's successful though. If he is then spending £18m on him is excellent business as (like you're saying) he could easily be your keeper for 10 years; so his true cost would only be £1.8m per season which would be the same as paying £9m on a 26 year old.
 
I can already see it now. You know how people like to play on peoples names, can already see that there is now going to be a season of people talking about De Gay
 
BaZ87 said:
It only represents good value if he's successful though. If he is then spending £18m on him is excellent business as (like you're saying) he could easily be your keeper for 10 years; so his true cost would only be £1.8m per season which would be the same as paying £9m on a 26 year old.
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Yes we can afford to buy a real keeper now and another one in 5 years or whatever. We dont need to gamble with youth keepers - we need solid day in day out.

There's no guarantee he would even stay for 10 years anyway so we might not even own him when he hits hid peak anyway. Maddess if you ask me.
 
DanH84 said:
Very talented on his day but 6 weeks of brilliance followed by a longer spell of going missing isn't what I think we need right now,I'm not 100% sold on his mentality either.

I think he needs to establish himself at Arsenal tbh.
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You have to remember all that brilliant form was when he played centrally. Practically every other game he has been out wide, since Fabregas came back. Nasri is a CM being played out of position.
 
The Running Man said:
Yes we can afford to buy a real keeper now and another one in 5 years or whatever. We dont need to gamble with youth keepers - we need solid day in day out.

There's no guarantee he would even stay for 10 years anyway so we might not even own him when he hits hid peak anyway. Maddess if you ask me.
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So what if he is competent enough off the bat ?? Surely good business or am I missing something
 
Loki said:
So what if he is competent enough off the bat ?? Surely good business or am I missing something
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He'd obviously prefer a keeper who's already known to be a bit dodgy, or one that simply doesn't want to move outside of his homeland
 
I don't see the problem with signing De Gea? He's one of the best goalkeepers already, so it seem's like a very good signing to me. Buying any goalkeeper from abroad is a risk in this country, because of the physicality, so may aswell take a risk with one that has the biggest possible reward.
 
[Cas];19217505 said:
I don't see the problem with signing De Gea? He's one of the best goalkeepers already, so it seem's like a very good signing to me. Buying any goalkeeper from abroad is a risk in this country, because of the physicality, so may aswell take a risk with one that has the biggest possible reward.
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Biggest positive I can take regarding his lack of experience is that he's not much younger than what Reina was when he came to the Premiership and he's turned out to be one of the best keepers in the world, hopefully De Gea follows suit
 
The Running Man said:
Yes we can afford to buy a real keeper now and another one in 5 years or whatever. We dont need to gamble with youth keepers - we need solid day in day out.

There's no guarantee he would even stay for 10 years anyway so we might not even own him when he hits hid peak anyway. Maddess if you ask me.
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Assuming you're suggesting going out and buying an experienced keeper instead. Who would you sign that would represent the same value as De Gea (combination of ability/age/price)?

£9m on a 26 year old represents the same value but is there a keeper as good as De Gea available for £9m? I can't think of 1. Any top keeper in his mid to late 20's is going to cost at least the same figure as De Gea and when you taking into account resale value and age etc, spending £18m on Reina (for example) is in reality costing probably more than double what you're paying for De Gea. Obviously, you're signing proven quality though so you have to weigh up the gamble on De Gea making it to the savings you'll make.

And regarding him possibly not staying for 10 years. I agree he might not but because of his age, even if he does leave you'll be able to sell him on for a decent fee. If he leaves after 3 years, (providing he doesn't flop) you could get at least your money back, maybe even more. Where as 26 year old's value would fall regardless of whether he was successful or not.
 
Not sure if it's been mentioned but Young to Utd looks very likely too. A certain Utd fan on here has previous said that Utd would not sign De Gea or Young. We may have a new Pigeon ;)
 
BaZ, its not just about value per say. We arent a club that needs to grow its value of players to function, or survive like other clubs who might take such a gamble and hope it pays off.

Im not skelenbergs biggest fan but i mean he isnt going to cost much more than 10 mill is he?

hen looking for a goalkeeper you need to see hwo the player performs in the champiosn league, in the world cup etc to assess him over a reasonable period of time in high pressure top level matches. Im just not sure we have had the opportunity with De Gea to do this and to know that he is the best keeper that we can buy right now for the coming season and maybe the season after - which is what we should be focused on.
 
I'm just not sure about Young. It's not that I dislike him or anything....I'm just not sure if he offers that much to us, especially for the fee's he'll likely command. Would much rather we went after Sanchez :(
 
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