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Well if Young does join lets see if Rooney benefits like when Valencia plays - and as for Park, who has been crucial in a number of high profile games - it would be interesting to see Young put in similar MOTM performances in huge games
Im not sure why you are even comparing him to Gibson, as they usually play in totally different positions (Young is more often than not a wide player, Gibson I dont think has ever played wide and is a cenral /attacking mid)
£20-25m for any player with one season left on their present contract is NEVER a bargain who ever the player is (well ok Ronaldo is probably the only player you could justify that kind of money with that amount of time left on his contract). Even 15m for Young at present would be too much
No reason at all to suggest Valencia wont play for Utd until the end of his top flight career (if the club want to make a profit at some point in the future so be it, but from the player's perspective there isnt anything at all).
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Frank, Gibson has played wide left this season more than once, the point I am making is more options- less chance Gibson plays.
Park is not a winger, he plays wide left in some matches but only because he keeps the opposing players under pressure and cuts the supply off.
With young you have a player who can play in the 80% of the games united play when there is no need to worry about the other side to that extent, we can then field someone who is a real threat down the left, and one,.finally that can take free kicks and corners.
95% of the time Gibson plays centrally, and Young plays wide the same % of time. Just because Gibson has played a position "more than once" just means Anderson, Park, Giggs, Nani & Fabio were all unavailable or already being used, not that you go out and buy someone just in case that event happens again
Park may not be a winger (hugging the by line) but he plays on the wing majority of his games - again sometimes he is used as a central mid , but it has to be said the cm pstn isnt his most potent position
Admittedly Utd desperately need a free-kick /corner taker, but Im not convinced Young can step up to the same level (AV are a good side, but still several steps below CL challanging sides
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We could sign Charlie Adams,but we'd have been better off bringing becks back 5 yeas a go!
Young would be a good signing, if you look at his assists over the years in a largely mediocre villa side (he's providing for heskey ffs) it stands up well against anyone we've currently got, he's naturally able down the left and has the versatility to play in the centre if needed, he's English which is handy and good at set pieces which is something we lack.
I wouldn't want to pay 20mill + considering he's only got a year on his contract but between 12-15million and I'd say we've comfortably strengthened the squad. Valencia/Nani/Young/Park gives you good depth and variety out wide.
Hopefully we get that french defender in and a top class CM fairly quickly then I'd say it'd been an excellent summer all round.
I wouldn't want to pay 20mill + considering he's only got a year on his contract but between 12-15million and I'd say we've comfortably strengthened the squad. Valencia/Nani/Young/Park gives you good depth and variety out wide.
Hopefully we get that french defender in and a top class CM fairly quickly then I'd say it'd been an excellent summer all round.
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Utter utter turd, once again you're justifying a signing on the off chance that player x, y and z wont be at the club in a, b, c number of years
Okay Nani based on his country of origin may want to move to Spain one day but thus far has given no indication that that's a cert, as for Park he's what late twenties early thirties? The only time Park will leave is either when his best years are behind him or when he retires. Your knowledge of Man Utd players is even worse than your knowledge of Arsenal players tbh
As for Valencia again there has been no indication in his short time at OT that he wants to play anywhere else in the future, the fact that he chose joining United over Real Madrid should be glaringly obvious to that fact tbh
It's Adam not Adams
Oh and for the record apart from being shifted there from once or twice very momentarily Gibson has never started a game for MUFC wide left
It must be broken then as he's nearly always wrong.
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How can you possibly say that?
Previous players, i mean, except the ones that came through our youth, how many young players we signed stayed for life? Give me examples...
Even Schmikes didnt stay for his entire career and he makes most peoples best premier goalkeeper of the 90's.
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How can you possibly say that?
How many South American or southern European wingers stay and finish their careers in the EPL? Not many. Its pretty simple, Brazil, Argentina, Spain, Portugal, Italy, they don't have the same way of life exactly but they are heavily different to the UK.
Theres a reason VERY few English players have played in foreign leagues and a reason most Spanish, Portuguese, Italian players don't stay in England too long.
Well lets ignore the 90% of your post thats rubbish.
First of all I didn't use anyone leaving as a reason to justify getting Young. Young is statistically, and in reality, better than Valencia, he gets more assists, goals and does this at a worse team. Young can play central mid, left right, or upfront.
I can't remember which of the 16 Utd fans consistantly harp on about Nani being played on the wrong wing just to accomdate Valencia.... but heres a clue, Valencia isn't as good as Young, and Youngs great on the left wing, leaving Nani to play on the right and Valencia as back up.
You and several others keep saying utterly stupid things liek, we've got two wingers, why would we need more.......... well Valencia missed half this season, and Nani's had a SINGLE GOOD SEASON. Nani might be crap next year, so might Young, one of them could die or Valencia could beat Ronaldo's 42 goals, its all unknown. 3 top class wingers for a top class team looking for a treble on a yearly basis, shocking to think you might want another winger, shocking.
So heres the list, incase you missed it for reasons why to get Young.
Over 3 or 4 seasons Young has EASILY been better than any winger UTD have.
He's playing at a worse club without really a single top striker till Jan, the last time there were inform strikers at the club he got 8 goals and 17 assists, much like Nani this year, that was 4 years ago, thats how long Young has been consistantly very good.
He's still Young and has a decade ahead of him, from Utd, theres no where to go but down and he's English so chances of moving to a Spanish/Italian team are being generous, 0.4%.
Shall we add in a few more complaints Utd fans have made this season.
Why do we have to play Rooney wide, wheres our cover for Valencia, Obercrap, Bebecrap, Crappycrap aren't good enough and won't make it, etc, etc
For the record I don't think Park will be at Utd in a decade because, he's 30 now, so chances are slim to none, who is it that knows less about your squad exactly?
Are you also forgetting that he's finally involved in the England squad and, I forget the stats but he's scored or assisted what 6 of the last 7 England goals since he's been starting? IE Young is likely to become a very key member of the England squad, meaning the club who have him have a lot of commercial value. You'd also have realised from previous posts that I've only really been justifying the time he would spend at the club for potential quite large transfer fee. 25mil for a guy who plays a decade for you really isn't expensive.
Better, good value, good potential to be a profitable commercially england regular, requirement for more than 2 wingers at a top club in 4 competitions a season, well done for missing all of those points and incorrectly interpreting one other point.
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I want to know how Tom has managed to forget the carling cup game against west ham where Gibson played wide left........
But by the by, the fact is even if someone isn't better than what we have in strting 11, if they are better than the squad players behind them, that's just ad important. Shock horror tba fergie is looking for a wide left player considering we haven't got one.....
But by the by, the fact is even if someone isn't better than what we have in strting 11, if they are better than the squad players behind them, that's just ad important. Shock horror tba fergie is looking for a wide left player considering we haven't got one.....
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I believe that Wolves need to invest in defense. We need a strong minded central defender who can push and motivate the defense and even the whole team. Jody Craddock needs to be replaced I think.
I also think wolves need to look at Ebanks Blake as a more active player next season.
I also think wolves need to look at Ebanks Blake as a more active player next season.
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Infact Sol Campbell would be an interesting choice, maybe a little past it though.
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Simon Kjaer's a pretty good defender.
Wonder who will leave them or will people like Lescott be happy with the money to sit on the bench.
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