As they are perfectly entitled to do
I think he was mainly complaining about people who go up the inside when people are turning left in their cars.
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I think he was mainly complaining about people who go up the inside when people are turning left in their cars.
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because I think it is,
why? i don't believe i actually have to explain this its not exactly the greatest leap in logic..
why the fact they can't maintain their speed is important:
while the cyclist is going 30 right now they will not maintain that speed indefinitely thus depending on the situation taking over while the roads are empty and safe may be preferable to doing it later
Why you should slow down EVEN IF the other party is being reckless:
Source: the highway code.
Don't have much of a problem with cyclists but I do often find them contravening some part of the highway code or doing something I would call risky or inconsiderate.
Recently I'm finding a lot them dawdling along poorly sighted NSL roads, often ones that as a driver I would never consider riding along or I'd at least use the empty footpath to save my on skin and to cause minimum inconvenience, but these people seem determined to exercise their right to be there, I can only assume that they don't drive or are the same people that make poor judgement calls behind the wheel.
Recently I'm finding a lot them dawdling along poorly sighted NSL roads, often ones that as a driver I would never consider riding along or I'd at least use the empty footpath to save my on skin and to cause minimum inconvenience, but these people seem determined to exercise their right to be there, I can only assume that they don't drive or are the same people that make poor judgement calls behind the wheel.
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Amen to that.
I can have a very scenic cycle through countryside if I wish (tight, windy, steep, 60mph road where drivers seem to think they are the sole occupants and drive accordingly) or I can take the coast road with trees on one side and the Clyde on the other (windy 60pmh road that is frequented by little neds in souped up Corsas who feel the need to veer across lanes to try and scare you). Cycling into work at 8am on a Sunday morning means I can avoid such idiots and really enjoy my commute.
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Absolutely. It's really invigorating, and releases all kinds of happy chemicals for the long day ahead!
We are referring to the situation whereby the cyclist is maintaining a constant speed of 30mph, overtaking of said cyclist you justified by saying that most motorists assume that the cyclist cannot maintain this speed. The point is that the motorist should a) check their speedo before assuming that the cyclist is doing 10mph and b) that the motorist shouldn't, in fact, assume anything.
Therefore your entire post is a massive straw man, as you've now started referring to the potential for the cyclist to start slowing down at some unspecified point in the future, which was not the original point of discussion.
If you want to try and use the highway code here then find me the passage that says its ok to break the speed limit to overtake someone.
If this is your argument then you are failing at the first sentence. If a driver is trying to overtake you. You shouldn't overtake if you are passing something going at the speed limit. Never obstruct refers to purposely making an overtakers maneuver harder. Someone on a bike doing 30mph is not obstructing an overtake.
Its best not to get into semantics and rules if you don't think about your position first.
If this is your argument then you are failing at the first sentence. If a driver is trying to overtake you. You shouldn't overtake if you are passing something going at the speed limit. Never obstruct refers to purposely making an overtakers maneuver harder. Someone on a bike doing 30mph is not obstructing an overtake.
Its best not to get into semantics and rules if you don't think about your position first.
I ride about 4 miles each way across London, from mainline station to office and back and use the Borisbikes. I just wear normal shorts + t-shirt and take a rucksack each day with change of clothes and washbag. I stuff the rucksack in the front rack of the bike - although I have to take my own bungee as the borisbike bungees are ridiculously short. Shower & change when I get to work.
I do it for the money saving - Borisbike hire costs me £45 a year and I save £1.90 a trip over the cost of a tube journey, so I break even after 12 days and the rest is all saved money. Still hang onto my Oyster card for when it rains though, I only cycle in nice weather
No, that's a daft idea. Personally I wear a helmet (although I didn't for the first 36 years of my life) but it should never be enforced. Apparently there's evidence that drivers leave less of a gap when people are wearing helmets, so they can have a negative impact on safety.
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I try and avoid roads after been run over by a car some years ago but ive started leaving the car at home for the last month or so , i do a 12 mile cycle and canal route to work on my mongoose,then empty roads at 1.30 am for the 9 miles or so back ,I find the cars that do overtake me (maybe 3 or so) give me plenty of room but i do use pavements if its a bad spot
This assumption is both dangerous and poorly conceived. You don't drive on the assumption that someone is going to do certain things, you drive in the knowledge that people can do anything, especially the unexpected.
Do you drive close to cars in front because you assume they're capable of maintaining 30mph? Or do you drive at a safe distance in case they have to slow down?
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Clearly we need more of these...
Private cycle lane
Private cycle lane
hmm...It would be nice...I think it is partly down to laziness and 'time' really. At the end of the day, I can get to work in ten minutes, and up the hill with no issues...
However if I cycled, it'd take 30 mins or so, i'd get all ot from going up the small hill, then i'd have to shower / wash at work...Which would then mean i'd have to add almost an hour extra to my wake up time each day
Helmets aren't always good in case of an accident, as they can sometimes cause head knocks that wouldn't have otherwise occured; but yes largely I agree that helmets should be mandatory.
Also the tighter the lycra, the faster we go
.Afraid I can't see the video for some reason, but we simply don't have the room for separate cycle lanes.
Oh...I was going home yesterday in my car, only to have a car come flying towards me in the middle of the road...On a blind bend...on top of a small hill...with double white full roads markings in the middle of the road...All because they wanted to get past a cyclist
Why people WANT to 'guess' whether or not a car is coming the other way is beyond me
Why people WANT to 'guess' whether or not a car is coming the other way is beyond me
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I ride about 4 miles each way across London, from mainline station to office and back and use the Borisbikes. I just wear normal shorts + t-shirt and take a rucksack each day with change of clothes and washbag. I stuff the rucksack in the front rack of the bike - although I have to take my own bungee as the borisbike bungees are ridiculously short. Shower & change when I get to work.
I do it for the money saving - Borisbike hire costs me £45 a year and I save £1.90 a trip over the cost of a tube journey, so I break even after 12 days and the rest is all saved money. Still hang onto my Oyster card for when it rains though, I only cycle in nice weather
Hmmm but backpacks are terrible for people that don't have a shower at work, as they create a sweaty back
. Panniers overcome this, I'm just wondering what the issue with panniers on long rides is? Just that they're too heavy? How do office workers get their clothes to work without panniers?!
I use a backpack. Nowhere on my bike(s) to fit panniers!Hmmm but backpacks are terrible for people that don't have a shower at work, as they create a sweaty back