New Tyres needed

[TW]Fox;19362340 said:
Why are you finding tyres for £150 anyway? You hardly have enormous wheels, good tyres are much cheaper.

http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m54b0s457p61140

£107 for CS3's there? CS2's are £102?
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I think thats before P&P and they don't come fitted.

The cheapest i found the CS3 fitted is £130.

As for parking sensors, the point already made in another thread. It is just something I mention in a passing comment, you guys really pick on the little things....besides, it's a personal opinion...a bit like maps and sat nav. One can argue that you don't need a Satnav, learn to read a map.

Yet we all have them, hell, some of you INSIST buying a BMW with one.
 
Raymond Lin said:
One can argue that you don't need a Satnav, learn to read a map.

Yet we all have them, hell, some of you INSIST buying a BMW with one.
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Parking sensors and satellite navigation aren't really comparable. Parking sensors may save you a minute of parking per journey, whereas satellite navigation can save you half an hour. Additionally, the reason we insist on certain models having satellite navigation is actually not for the attribute of satellite navigation itself.
Raymond Lin said:
I am not talking about cheapo tyres like £40 worn ones, I am talking about some half decent ones rather than £150 EACH ones. 95% of performance for 60% of the cost. In exchange of money saved that i can spend on other things, i.e. Parking sensors SHOULD I choose to.
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We are not suggesting you spend £150 each on tyres. Continental SportContact 3s, for example, are available fully fitted for £130 each. The fully fitted tyres for £78 (60%) each will not be 95% as good - you are inventing these percentages. £78 buys you something like the Falken Ziex ZE-912, which isn't in the same league as the CS3s, let alone 95% as good.
Raymond Lin said:
Besides, those hankook do look decent from the reviews, they came out top in the test and the review does not even mention value for money/costs.
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The Hankooks do quite well, but be sure that it is the exact model used in the test. It is not uncommon for tyre manufacturers to have several tyres with very similar sounding names yet performance worlds apart. Also, the reason they rarely mention value for money/costs in tyre tests, is because the £20 you save on the tyre doesn't make you stop any faster.
 
Actually, the dealer said the Conti isn't on their list...he listed about 10, and Conti isn't on it, nor is Hankook so I'm going to go to an indy and see if i can haggle a set of Conti for £400 or even £450.
 
looked again, Hankooks are £98 per tyre at Blackcircles.com (found a local indy on their list), Conti CS3 is £130, both fitted. So roughly £400 vs £520.

I think on that basis, I am going to spend the extra and get the Conti from an Indy.
 
Indeed, it's one of the best i could find for my car. As a mid range tyre they do an impressive job, bit like conti's of old before they made a name for themselves and bumped prices accordingly.

And with it being a metro means, the tyres are beyond what the car is capable of anyway. Plus i wanted something with exceptional wear, which these have plus grip well in all conditions, and dare i say it do alright in snow.

Plus £48 fitted with 4% cashback for 165/65/13 isn't bad.

Only trouble now they really show up the rears, so must get them sorted asap.

Pmkeats, it's the optimo k415/715 or for performance the v12/s1 evo that get most of the good reviews.

But as you say there are other tyres in that range.

MikeHunt79 said:
Hankooks come out pretty well in this test:

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2011-Autobild-Max-Performance-Summer-Tyre-Test.htm

I've used Rainsport 2's rank pretty well also for a budget tyre...

Linglongs don't fare so well however... "dangerously long braking distances on wet road" :eek:
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Oh and +1 on conti premium contacts, or eco contact 3 as they're meant to be pretty decent as well.
 
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mjt said:
Get ContiPremiumContacts. ContiSportContacts on a Yaris are overkill.
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It might be a Yaris but he has 205/45/17 tyres on it. It is this which dictates the availability of models of tyre - this is a generally more 'sporty' size and therefore tends to be available in more high performance fitments.

Presumably there is no PremiumContact available in this size - Conti have helpfully not supplied a sizing guide for this tyre and I cannot see them for sale on any of the tyre sites - as a result of this.

This is why he keeps turning up tyres like the Contisport Contact. Not because it neccesarily needs it, but because if he wants a quality, branded tyre he will find that many of the leading tyre manufacturers do not offer the eco or touring ranges in his size.
 
I have some CS3's on my Fiesta ST and i think the car doesn't have enough weight to warm them up to a grippy temperature. But when they do warm up when driving rather spirited they are a fantastic tyre.

Get some Toyo Proxes T1-Rs and be done with. They are a good tyre, very grippy, not as good as Rainsports in the wet though and don't last that long mind.

If you get parking sensors, everyone in motors will hunt you down and gouge them out.

If you want to save a few bob get the 205/40/17 instead of the 205/45/17.
 
[TW]Fox;19365502 said:
The Toyo is a whole £18 a tyre cheaper than the CS3 on Camskill. Whats the point?
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Then that's like a whole 20% more each tyre. If you're in a pinch go for the Toyo but if you can afford it go for the CS3's. If i was spending out on 2 new tyres, to me, £40 is a lot of money. It's all about what people are willing to spend on a tyre. I would rather save that £80 for a whole set and get a tyre that is as good performing.

Personally, from my experience on a light hatchback the Toyo's behave and handle better.
 
[TW]Fox;19365502 said:
The Toyo is a whole £18 a tyre cheaper than the CS3 on Camskill. Whats the point?
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Logsi said:
Then that's like a whole 20% more each tyre. If you're in a pinch go for the Toyo but if you can afford it go for the CS3's. If i was spending out on 2 new tyres, to me, £40 is a lot of money. It's all about what people are willing to spend on a tyre. I would rather save that £80 for a whole set and get a tyre that is as good performing.

Personally, from my experience on a light hatchback the Toyo's behave and handle better.
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There.

For the MK1 Yaris T-Sports, 195/50/15's Toyo's are recommended. Factory standard the wheels are 185's/55/15's. Toyo's are good tyres and if you want to save a few quid, then yeah they're worth the purchase.

If Raymond is going to thrash his Yaris about then yeah good tyres. But I doubt it since he's named it Veronica or something like that.
 
Logsi said:
Then that's like a whole 20% more each tyre.
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It's £18! Percentage is irrelevent when the differential is so little. You would not buy one chocolate bar instead of another on price alone if one was 100% more expensive if in reality one was 15p and the other was 30p, would you?

£18 per tyre and unless he does high mileage he wont need to buy any more tyres for several years.
 
PMKeates said:
We are not suggesting you spend £150 each on tyres. Continental SportContact 3s, for example, are available fully fitted for £130 each. The fully fitted tyres for £78 (60%) each will not be 95% as good - you are inventing these percentages. £78 buys you something like the Falken Ziex ZE-912, which isn't in the same league as the CS3s, let alone 95% as good.
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Well show him the conclusive figures listing the stats and work out the exact percentages.

It's all well and good quoting a single test, but Ray doesn't have the car used in the test and from what I remember of the thread he will only be putting 2 tyres on. Putting on 2 softer tyres with better grip compared to the other 2 will affect the handling of the car, especially in these drastic situations where the test reults were carried out . E.g. slamming on the anchors in wet/dry.

Then consider that not every road or situation is a perfect test, cambered surface, un-level surface, varying conditions, curvature on the road etc and you can see that this wondeful test cannot be taken as the be all and end all of the 'best tyres'!

Ray, I still say get some good tyres but there is no need to go splashing out on these conti 3s that everyone raves about. Stick with 2 good mid-range tyres then use the saved monies to purchase the 2nd matching pair at a later date.
 
Why the hell does this car come with 17's in the first place :p Get some 15's and enjoy some silly cheap tyres, set of PE2's for £200 :cool:

A more helpful comment though, if you can find some CS2's still for sale, i would get those over the CS3's
 
[TW]Fox;19365597 said:
It's £18! Percentage is irrelevent when the differential is so little. You would not buy one chocolate bar instead of another on price alone if one was 100% more expensive if in reality one was 15p and the other was 30p, would you?

£18 per tyre and unless he does high mileage he wont need to buy any more tyres for several years.
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The difference may be little to you, but to me a saving of nearly £40 on 2 tyres that will perform just as good is quite nice. :)
 
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