** Summer Transfer Window 2011/12 Season Rumours/Signings **

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Tom84 said:
Interesting tweet which I thought would be relevant to all those knocking Nani
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hmmm is that actually verifiable though - and how "involved" does he mean

Personally think that is VERY dubious considering how much he played in the 2nd 1/2 of the season

Im not knocking your reporting - thats what this thread is about after all, but the last place I believe is a post from twitter without solid proof :)

edit - even if you consolidate every year each player was at Utd, I would still find that hard to believe (they were probably equally bad the first 2 or 3 seasons at the club)

crackerman said:
We do have a choice though, he signed a six year contract last year, even if he wants a move away we dont have to sell him. He doesn't strike me as a player to sulk so if we dont sell him he will no doubt knuckle down. While Berbatov and Carrick both wanted away they also had less then 2 yrs left on their contract, so it was either sell them for big money or let them go for peanutes/free later on.

Hopefully he will "stick" it out for another year and try and get back in the top four and then if we fail to achieve it then fair enough.
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No club HAS to sell a player (you are correct) - but sometimes it makes economic sense to do so even if its against the on field targets of the team.

Obviously £22m was a bit of a test the water kind of bid (which Im sure Chelsea expected to get rejected), but I bet nearer the £30m - £35m Levy would start to really think hard

Psycho Sonny said:
manchester united fans are fickle and follow the crowd (sheep mentality).

they all hate tevez and never rated him, said he never did much (but he was sat on the bench for most of his last year at utd). he practically single handedly took city to 3rd in the league. tevez never seemed like much because they had ronaldo, but when they both left it hurt manchester utd badly. 2 huge losses.

berbatov is amazing, he just needs the right support around him. utd should keep chick, rooney and berbatov. get rid of all the other strikers they have. i dont know why fergie doesn't like berbatov, maybe due to a lack of spirit and heart. he is naturally gifted though, he doesnt work hard, it just comes natural to him. complete opposite of tevez, who isnt as naturally talented, but works 10 times as hard in order to get similar results.

nani is also very good, sometimes he doesn't perform, but thats life, everyone can have a bad day, just look at torres.

if i was in charge i would be playing against weak teams:

442 diamond

--- Chick --- Berb ----

------- Shrek -----

Nani --------- Valencia

--- Fletcher or Carrick ---

Evra --- Vidic --- Ferdinand --- Rafael

--------- De Gea -----------

against strong teams:

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--------- Chick or Berb -------

-------- Shrek ------------

Park -- Carrick -- Anderson -- Valencia or Nani

same back 4 and keeper
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Factually wrong in so many ways.....

1) I dont think many Utd fans hated Tevez - who had a good 1st year and a mediocre 2nd (and he would have needed to have an even better 2nd year to really be worth the money they were asking for at the time) + he has no loyalty (proven by moving club every 2 seasons or less since he turned pro.

The mouthing off in the press in the 2nd year at Utd was bad enough (which convinced me, and I think a lot of others) that he wasnt worth signing to a long contract ......just imagine how much more that would have been if Utd HAD signed him (given how much has appeared this year from Citeh's point of view

He has been good at Citeh.....but also mainly because he is able to be the centre of attention every time he is on the pitch, which just isnt the Utd way (much more a team attitude).

yeah Utd really suffered badly because we lost Tevez......ummmm NOT

Re Berbatov - personally I dont think he has justified (anywhere near to be fair) the £30m + price tag - myabe thats unfair as he had nothing to do with the amount paid, but he's had two average to bad seasons, and even in his best season to date (where it is roundly considered that a lot of teams had a bad season ) he stil missed a good number of absolute sitters and is rarely a game changer. Yes there are games where he scores 3 or 5 in a 90 minute period - but a) where they ever going to be games where Utd would struggle (unlikely) b) he rarely absolutely changes a game on his own c) the length's of time between scoring is far too long for a team wanting to challange on every front (just look at the FA Cup semi against City with two absolute sitters completely missed). Excellent technical player who absolutely has the skills - just very rarely can put it all together in a crucial match

I just think that Berba was a great gamble to take that just hasnt worked for Utd

Nani has more bad days than good imo (he gets and wastes far too much for someone settled in Manchester and in the side,rarely if ever learns from his mistakes. Some days everything he touches turns to gold - other times its just ****, and while he is learning to defend when necessary it doesnt come naturally which for a club who want to win and (if need be lol) lose togetther - he is a bit too individual for being in the team so long imo

Cant see Diamond working at all

Berba and Chicharito arent the type of players (especially the latter) to work well level - it really would be wasting Berba completely he just wouldnt come into it . Central midfield would also be obliterated by most teams who ever played centrally. Rooney would be too far back to make the most of him as well imo

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Berba doesnt have the pace to make this formation work, yes he has skills but he would be obliterated most of the time by a 1/2 decent centre half. Anderson has been great in some games running them completely on occasion - but too often he is invisible too (certainly give him more time, but over the last two seasons Im not convinces his head has only been on football - whether he is injured or not shouldnt matter ....look at AV injury this season for the right example).
 
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FrankJH said:
hmmm is that actually verifiable though - and how "involved" does he mean

Personally think that is VERY dubious considering how much he played in the 2nd 1/2 of the season

Im not knocking your reporting - thats what this thread is about after all, but the last place I believe is a post from twitter without solid proof :)

edit - even if you consolidate every year each player was at Utd, I would still find that hard to believe (they were probably equally bad the first 2 or 3 seasons at the club)
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It wouldn't be surprising, other than the age both joined Utd and started playing games(nani was a couple years older), Ronaldo started his career at Utd in 2003/2004, Utd came 3rd that season, the season after, then 2nd, the won 3 on the trot. Ronaldo joined as the Chelski revolution started, at Utd's weakest point in EPL history, Nani joined the reigning champions who won three years on the trot.

IE Ronaldo's first years were a lot of sub appearances in a year Utd simply weren't as good, Nani's first years were in the title winning team.


Hmm, the premier league site lists that Nani has 57 goals + assists over 4 seasons and, 6367 minutes, which is a goal or assist every 111 minutes.

EPSN lists Nani as having 12 less goals/assists in total over those 4 seasons and comes up with 141 or so, and Opta have entirely different stats obviously aswell.

Utd's site lists it as 17 goals in the league(premier league site appears to have one missing from last season).

Those opta numbers don't seem to come close to any other source though, if they are from opta that is.
 
I don't Modric is a bad player per se, just not:
  • the sort of central midfielder we need at (Manchester, not Sheffield) United.
  • for the sort of money Levy will doubtlessly try to anally extract for him.

IceBus said:
Don't think Chelsea will want to buy Darren Bent, bit past his prime.
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Beaten to it in the previous page, do keep up. ;)
 
i hope that modric remains true to his attitude so far that is he is a loyal person who counts his blessings for the position he is in. he comes from a very poor upbringing (his dad made his shin pads for him out of timber as they were too poor to afford proper ones) and thus i would hope he would never move for money but would move purely to remain at the top of his game.
we can't give him cl football next season and i doubt we will be able to next year either but i would hope he will be with us to atleast try and get us there again. would he get straight into the chelsea line-up? i'm not so sure though with anelka and drogba's future in a bit of doubt, i assume abramovich see's modric as the player to provide torres with the service he needs.
if we are offered over £35m, that would be too much for spurs to refuse imo and would be a good move for modric and therefore would likely happen.
if it came to a choice between man utd and chelsea, i think he would choose chelsea as he is settled in london. wouldn't go down well with spurs fans though. i personally can't blame him for wanting to spend his career at the top of his game though.
 
Weebull said:
Surely a player who came from a very poor background would be far more likely to move for money?
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or remembering where he came from - he knows how lucky he is to be earning 60 k a week or whatever

Could go either way - depends on his individuality (but you could easily be right)
 
Prem Free Transfer list: http://www.premierleague.com/staticFiles/14/79/0,,12306~162068,00.pdf
Still think Arsenal should be taking a look at free deals, Owen is gone now but Upson and Reo-Coker are still available. If I had any confidence in his fitness I'd want Woodgate.

Personally I'd say people from poor upringings are more likely to be motivated by money, not only because they don't take it for granted but also because they are much more likely to have poor friends and relatives who they may want to help out.
 
HangTime said:
Prem Free Transfer list: http://www.premierleague.com/staticFiles/14/79/0,,12306~162068,00.pdf
Still think Arsenal should be taking a look at free deals, Owen is gone now but Upson and Reo-Coker are still available. If I had any confidence in his fitness I'd want Woodgate.

Personally I'd say people from poor upringings are more likely to be motivated by money, not only because they don't take it for granted but also because they are much more likely to have poor friends and relatives who they may want to help out.
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Larsson will be a good player for pretty much every team in Prem i reckon. Would like him at City for some backup should Sanchez etc not join!
 
Yeah I thought Upson at the very least would do a job covering the CB position at Arsenal. Reo-Coker not so much there are plenty of CMs and if they buy a quality DM there is still Song as backup.
 
Rich_L said:
I see the Barca chairman is up to their usual tricks. :p

Fabregas should be cheaper this season than last because of 'wear and tear'. :D Is he a second-hand car now?

Such blatant tapping up via media too :p

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/13799626.stm
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God that makes even a non arsenal fan sick. Arsenal should counter offer £30 million for Messi and state he has worn out his feet scoring too many goals.

"I don't think he will got to another Spanish club," added Rosell. "Cesc is of Barca, and if I were the president of another club I wouldn't sign a player who holds dear the colours of another team.

God it makes you vomit, we want him but don't want to pay market rate for him, hoping he puts in a request so we get him cheap. Arsenal should just publically say if they really wanted and rated him they would offer disrepectful money.

Scared that Madrid will sign him so they can pedal out the line that they bought a player with Barca at heart.

I can't wait for this lot to get knocked off their perch.
 
[TW]Sponge;19390880 said:
Sir Alex has made an official bid of £30.5million for the Chilean winger Alexis Sanchez.

According to my rumour page on FB.

Bit steep??
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Twitter rife this evening that he's on the way...
 
Well that has to be our transfer business coming to a close if it's true...add in Jones, De Gea and Young and that's about 80m ish :eek: Not sure where we're going to get a midfielder from.
 
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