Damn right to have a strict medical too, the guy has been injured for the last 8 months.
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Damn right to have a strict medical too, the guy has been injured for the last 8 months.
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That is all very true but it only applies if "the problem" was actually his family.
Look at the history of the career of Carlos Tevez, its on Wiki and numerous other places.
There is NOTHING to suggest that he will stay at City out of loyalty and the problem is missing his family.
He is a football mercenary - two years work and on to the next one. There is nothing wrong with that at all if he was only up front about it rather than hiding behind all manner of excuses.
If Real, Barca, Inter, Milan, Chelsea etc were to put in a cheeky bit id bet he would be looking for a move, family or not.
Are these quotes all from his agent? I wouldn't trust whatever he says 
Tevez will leave this season, or next - if he stays it'll be for a new contract with ridiculous money, and Man City owners will just buy part of Argentina and ship it to Manchester to make him feel more at home.
Tevez will leave this season, or next - if he stays it'll be for a new contract with ridiculous money, and Man City owners will just buy part of Argentina and ship it to Manchester to make him feel more at home.
Of course,
Well there is a few things to suggest he is staying at City, not through loyalty or through solving his 'problems' just little things that suggest he is not leaving.
A bit harsh but it is true i suppose, if he wasn't such a good player on the pitch and has near unmatched desire and determination on the pitch then i would fully agree but he does do a lot of work on the pitch unlike some of the other 'mercenaries' that we have at the club.
Possibly, but then again his agent could have told them he is not moving and if he does it will be to Boca?
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TBH im happy to admit im biased. I think Tevez is a **** and i was chuffed we didnt keep him!
The fact he went to you guys made him easier to hate but i didnt need any encouragement!!TBH im happy to admit im biased. I think Tevez is a **** and i was chuffed we didnt keep him!
and Anderson is just as likely to go off the rails again ( like the car crash - whether he was driving or not is irrelevant, he shouldnt have been out at that time of the night if he was putting every effort into getting fit)
Yes he can play well in certain games - but Im not convinced he will ever be as consistant as Utd require (and remember no one here sees how good / bad he is in training)
As a charachter he seems like a nice bloke but he hasnt shown dedication to the team in my view - I have to admit Im not sure what his his contract is like (how long left etc). Baring in mind how many chances he has already had, if he doesnt start showing consistancy soon he wont survive another summer (ie 11/12) without being sold if it doesnt happen this summer)
Just heard that Park may be on his way out (either as part of the De Gea deal or to Lille) - I know he is 30 but even so I would be surprised. Yet more speculation about Diarra from Madrid, this has been going on for yearssssssssss I think its just filling column inches at this point (even though Utd need a defensive mid imo)
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Agree about Anderson BTW his career is in his own hands really.
As for Park id be stunned if we let him go. Id be equally surprised if O'Shea left. Unspectacular? - yes. Scapegoats? - often. Vital to the squad? - Absolutely.
Question is would Man Utd want to offer him a big/long contract now he is 30+ , I doubt it somehow (given their relatively recent policy about players reaching this age).
OShea maybe classed as a scapegoat - but also look at the facts , how many other players can cover his main positions (full back - I know the odd game is played in mid-field but this is a rarity);
Evra, Da Silva *2, Evans, Smalling, Jones, Giggs (lol), Valencia (lol)...and possibly some youngsters that might be pushing through also (I would love to include Varane, but I am gutted that its most likely he will head to RM), possibly someone else if Varane doesnt arrive.....
It may not be a major deal at all - but I think its worth getting some money back while Utd can.
Park I would agree totally with - he pops up every so often with crucial goals, he has a really high energy / hard tackling game and an amazingly good card record (5 yellows in 176 apps)......but on the other hand while he has been an invaluable part of the squad for a number of years, I wouldnt be that upset to see his place open up for someone younger with more growth / potential, but with a rousing (appreciative) send off for his service
Very good point. But for all we know that could be tailing off........ lol
The rate at which Utd's marketing team is growing though - I wonder how much of a concern that really is.
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While I'd agree that they are unspectacular, I don't think I've ever watched a game and thought that Park could be blamed for anything. O'Shea on the other hand...
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Frank McClintock is on Talksport (sky0108) right now. A genuine legend. Well worth a listen even if you arent an Arsenal fan.
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Not sure I understand.
Do you mean the people Utd employ to market the club to vital markets such as the US and Asia or players we sign with the added bonus of their commercial value in the US and Asia? 
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Getting stick doesn't mean we should get rid of them 
They're both good squad players, and both couldn't be replaced for the amount we'd get for them now.
They're both good squad players, and both couldn't be replaced for the amount we'd get for them now.
Wait? United fans want to keep Park and Carrick?
They get as much stick as Berba and Gibson at times this season but now are suddenly good players?
Fickle.
As I said, while Park is not going to win any awards he gives it everything he has got in every game, harries the opponents and does crop up with some vital goals at times. In all honesty if he was a bit stronger he would get more and assist more I think.
Carrick can and does play some incredible passes but can also just be absent in some games. He doesn't pop up on the score sheet as often as he probably should but aside from that I think he is a "good" player. I would be indifferent to him going depending on who was brought in as I don't think he has yet justified the price tag Spurs made us cough up though like Berbatov it wasn't his choice to put that price tag on him.
Gibson again can occasional play a blinding pass or score a good goal from range, but I don't see him ever being the heart of the United midfield. Consistency is utterly absent and by now I think he should have shown more if he was going to stay at United.
I have already given my opinion on Berbatov. To fans he can appear lackadaisical compared to his team mates but he does unquestionably have a fantastic touch and vision and will hold onto the ball better than others who might try a difficult pass for the chance of a goal instead of retaining possession. But again, it is my opinion that he has not warranted the amount of money spent on him. He didn't have a hand in how much he cost though.
In all honesty at the start of this season I doubted that we would be challenging for the title or the CL. In the end we won one and were in the final for the other which shows exactly what I know. I just felt that the team was more squad players than game changers and even now I feel it is something we are lacking.
While I think Fabregas or Essien would walk into most of the top sides in the world I cannot honestly say the same about any of the options United have in the centre of the park. They are all "good" players that will play for the team, work hard most of the time and that's it. I'd love to see someone in the middle of our team like Scholes was 5 yeas ago or like Keane was a few years earlier. Grab the game by the balls and make something happen.
This is all irrelevant since my opinion will be declared invalid by someone who obviously knows far more than I do.
Not sure I understand.
I was meaning that the way the maketing team in London is growing and generating income for the club will in all liklihood be able to replace any revenue Park generated in Asia relatively quickly (im talking about sponsorship deals and such forth)
I wouldnt be surprised if SAF has his eye on potential up and coming asians either though
I missed it and dont have Sky anyway - but will see if I cant find it on the website in the next few days
1) The price we paid for him (with a lot of experience with Spurs) is practically what we just paid for Jones, - with the "British " markup and on top coming from a team in the same league - whether you like it or not both of these would have added significantly to any " base" price. Maybe not peanuts but nothing particularly remarkable either......paid roughly the same for OH a year later from Bayern which imo shows the value of Carrick even more -Edit Im not trying to imply Jones isnt English btw, just that imo Carrick if he hadnt been English or playing for Spurs Utd would have paid nearer £10m or so, maybe less)
2) He was the only transfer into Utd in 2007, and we won the league while being a crucial part of that successful season. League and CL double the next season with him having something like 50 apps to his name. Since then he has also been a vital cog throughout the season keeping us in the running for the league (winning it twice more) and getting to the CL final twice (and at the moment no team can cope with Barca, so its unfair to blame Utd losing just on MC).
Im not suggesting its JUST Carrick that has allowed this, not by any stretch - it is a TEAM game - but to average 46+ apps a season over a five year stretch with a boss like SAF proves without any doubt that he has to be doing the majority of things right (even if people on here dont agree - like that means anything meaningful hahaha)
He has justified his transfer fee many times over
Berba on the other hand is completely opposite however
How the **** you can compare Gibson (<60 apps in roughly the same time frame, only 1/2 of which were EPL games) is just laughable (apart from the fact that they play completely different roles in totally different areas of the pitch)
If he EVER wins even one EPL medal outside Utd (and he only JUST merited one this year from number of performances) it will be a miracle
You said it yourself lol
Fabregas I would agree with you on, and when he signed for Chelsea I was gutted Essien hadnt been captured by Utd, but this season esp I think Essien has lost a lot fo what he was about and he just isnt the same player he was just a few years ago (very probably down to some bad injuries he has suffered)
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Since when did we have a marketing team in London? I can imagine we have one at OT in Manchester but in London?
I'm not saying we don't have one and that I don't believe you but that I've not heard of this before. Makes sense. If they've got potential then any financial risk in signing them would probably be repaid by massive potential for commercial income from Asian fans buying up Utd merchandise.
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