BT Infinity & FTTx Discussion

V_R · 22 Jun 2011 at 21:29

Angerer said:
Hello all,

Can you guys please tell me what the pings are like with the unlimited package and do you get throttled at certain times? FTTC has arrived in my area an i'm thinking about joining the rest of the cool kids and signing up. did the speed test on bt and says i can get around 35mb/7.5mb.

Currently with BE and after 3 years of great service downloading at 2.1mb/s all of a sudden now ive lost nearly 8mb/s downloading at 1.18mb/s they've been monitoring my line but that is all they are seem to be doing about it. fancy a change.

cheers

I moved from Be to ADSL24 FTTC, best thing i've done. Been very good so far. I had a little issue when it first went live when my off peak usage was still being added to my peak usage, but they fixed it and reset my usage half way though the month as a sign of good faith. Been spot on ever since. I sync at 40/10 and its not dropped once. No shaping, throttling, congestion etc here.

Pings are great for me, Just ran this now...

Code:

C:\Users\xXxXx>ping www.bbc.co.uk

Pinging www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.244.67] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 212.58.244.67: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=51
Reply from 212.58.244.67: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=51
Reply from 212.58.244.67: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=51
Reply from 212.58.244.67: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=51

Ping statistics for 212.58.244.67:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 8ms, Maximum = 8ms, Average = 8ms

Angerer · 22 Jun 2011 at 21:45

V_R said:
I moved from Be to ADSL24 FTTC, best thing i've done. Been very good so far. I had a little issue when it first went live when my off peak usage was still being added to my peak usage, but they fixed it and reset my usage half way though the month as a sign of good faith. Been spot on ever since. I sync at 40/10 and its not dropped once. No shaping, throttling, congestion etc here.

Pings are great for me, Just ran this now...

Code:

C:\Users\xXxXx>ping www.bbc.co.uk Pinging www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.244.67] with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 212.58.244.67: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=51 Reply from 212.58.244.67: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=51 Reply from 212.58.244.67: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=51 Reply from 212.58.244.67: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=51 Ping statistics for 212.58.244.67: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 8ms, Maximum = 8ms, Average = 8ms

That's some serious connection you got there dude!

Whats the usage allowance? I use Usenet a lot so 100GB would be too less for me.

How far are you from your exchange? I am about 500m but the line goes around a few areas beforehand.

Just did a check are they are available for me

cp88 · 22 Jun 2011 at 21:54

You live in london V R?

Because I live up north my ping basically double back on themselfs

V_R · 22 Jun 2011 at 22:06

Angerer said:
That's some serious connection you got there dude!

Thanks. If your interested search my posts in this thread, i posted some speed tests etc. Also regarding pings i sit around 20-25ms in a full Black ops server.

Whats the usage allowance? I use Usenet a lot so 100GB would be too less for me.

30Gb peak which is 8am - midnight, Off peak is midnight to 8am and all weekend and is of course unlimited.

How far are you from your exchange? I am about 500m but the line goes around a few areas beforehand.

I'm only about 150 metre's from the Cab, thats what counts not the distance from the exchange. which is more like 2.5 miles (as the crow files anyway)

Check this out...

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc...0SVlLcVlzQWZuVFE&hl=en&authkey=CNDi0Z8L#gid=0

I'm on ADSL24's fibre 30 Pro package.

Just did a check are they are available for me

My estimate was 35/7, i sync at full speed. Do you know where your cab is?

cp88: I'm in Bucks just outside London.

trigger-happy · 22 Jun 2011 at 22:10

cp88 said:
Be* will be dead in 18months, they are losing customers at a stupid rate and seem to be doing nothing about it.

Unless I've missed some news on them..

LOL and I was one of them. I just migrated from Be* to BT

cp88 · 22 Jun 2011 at 22:11

trigger-happy said:
LOL and I was one of them. I just migrated from Be* to BT

Yeah me too, I did love Be* tho

Anyone under 600 meters from cabinet should get full 40/10 easy. (I am less than 100 meters, looking forward to 80mbit upgrade)

Scream · 22 Jun 2011 at 22:15

A lot of people say don't touch an ISP that has traffic shaping like BT but who else do you go with that offers the download allowance and speed for the money?

I want to up grade my Zen ADSL to fibre and for a 100Gb allowance will cost me £45.60 a month, £90 for activation and then a fibre router on top of that to purchase. How on earth is that value for money? At fibre speeds, what use is 100Gb and the price you pay for that pathetic amount?

So can anyone suggest an ISP that offers better than BT Infinity?

cp88 · 22 Jun 2011 at 22:21

Scream said:
A lot of people say don't touch an ISP that has traffic shaping like BT but who else do you go with that offers the download allowance and speed for the money?

I want to up grade my Zen ADSL to fibre and for a 100Gb allowance will cost me £45.60 a month, £90 for activation and then a fibre router on top of that to purchase. How on earth is that value for money? At fibre speeds, what use is 100Gb and the price you pay for that pathetic amount?

So can anyone suggest an ISP that offers better than BT Infinity?

I dont see the problem with traffic shaping aslong as its done properly, I have had no problems with BT so far, tho I don't torrent..

My pings stay the same 24/7 and I thank traffic shaping for that.

Don't BT have over 5 million subs? Shaping is needed. Infinity is a AWESOME upgrade from any ADSL product.

The battlefield bad company issues (before anyone mentions it) is a routing problem IMO.

When I was on BeThere at peak times pings would rise 2-3ms which is nothing, but still.

If you wanted to torrent on BT, you could use mullvad VPN for 5 euro's a month, they allow torrenting

trigger-happy · 22 Jun 2011 at 22:38

cp88 said:
Yeah me too, I did love Be* tho

Anyone under 600 meters from cabinet should get full 40/10 easy. (I am less than 100 meters, looking forward to 80mbit upgrade)

yup be* was 100% awesome, now it doesnt meet my demands anymore. Also I'm predicted to get 33.3Mb from BT.

Angerer · 22 Jun 2011 at 22:38

V_R said:
I'm on ADSL24's fibre 30 Pro package.

My estimate was 35/7, i sync at full speed. Do you know where your cab is?

cp88: I'm in Bucks just outside London.

That package looks tidy i like it, no I don't know where my cabinet is, how can i find out? cheers

cp88 · 22 Jun 2011 at 22:39

I was predicted 35.5/7.4 although I am less than 100 meters from cabinet, their estimates are way off atm me thinks.

Angerer said:
no I don't know where my cabinet is, how can i find out? cheers

Go for a mooch.

Bishop's Stortford couple shocked as BT cabinet appears outside their home

http://www.hertsandessexobserver.co...-as-BT-cabinet-appears-outside-their-home.htm

I wish...

Angerer · 22 Jun 2011 at 22:47

cp88 said:
Go for a mooch.

Hehe i should, I was kinda hoping I could search online using like a samknows equivalent.

DBT85 · 23 Jun 2011 at 08:10

Angerer said:
Hehe i should, I was kinda hoping I could search online using like a samknows equivalent.

I should try and find mine. The new ones are massive so it should sick out fairly easily!

Angerer · 23 Jun 2011 at 08:57

Todge said:
I should try and find mine. The new ones are massive so it should sick out fairly easily!

Cheers dude, trouble is my area is massive wouldn't know where to start. If i knew it was on same street as my exchange I'd be able to find it. :/

V_R · 23 Jun 2011 at 09:44

Whats your postcode, Email me if you wish and i may be able to check.

Actually before you do that , take a look at this... May help.

http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange_mapping_full

Angerer · 23 Jun 2011 at 09:51

Hey V_R I tried that last night says "FTTC services available" my Exchange is New Cross and that I am 537m away. So my Cabinet is at my exchange?

cp88 · 23 Jun 2011 at 09:57

Angerer said:
Hey V_R I tried that last night says "FTTC services available" my Exchange is New Cross and that I am 537m away. So my Cabinet is at my exchange?

Cabinets cant be in the exchange, crosstalk ect.

I hear people that are really close to the exchange wont be able to get vDSL atm.

Kanpai · 23 Jun 2011 at 09:58

I use ExpatShield btw Angerer as a VPN

cp88 · 23 Jun 2011 at 10:01

Expat is really nice for free.

Angerer · 23 Jun 2011 at 10:05

cp88 said:
Cabinets cant be in the exchange, crosstalk ect.

I hear people that are really close to the exchange wont be able to get vDSL atm.

We'll see what happens, If BE can fix my line I'll stay with them for a while if not then I'll Inquire about FTTC.

nayan89 said:
I use ExpatShield btw Angerer as a VPN

Thanks man, yeah been looking into getting myself an account for NFL this year, if they can come to an agreement over this labour dispute