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Utd don't spend and haven't outspent Arsenal on wages by that much, Chelsea and City do but thats in large part down to the way they got players and players thinking they can get more.
No one seems to mention it, Chelsea and City get done for fee's because as a big price signing they automatically think they deserve 120k+ a week.
Arsenal are at the other end of the spectrum, they sign someone for 8mil and the player doesn't think that means they are entitled to a 120k a week wage to start off with. Also think about this, would Arsenal have been able to get Fabregas on a free, if we hadn't spent our way into being the second best team in the country, also winning the odd league? Would you honestly think that Fabregas offered a contract at 16 today would choose Arsenal over City or Chelsea, or Utd, no.
It was our place, cemented by being a high wage spender and a top 2 team that let us sign guys like Fabregas. If we were like Villa, had spent less and were less successful it would have cost us a heck of a lot more to put together the same team.
End of the day, ignore transfer fee's, look at wages, up till 3 years ago we were only dwarfed by Chelsea, before what 6-7 years ago only Utd were ahead and not that much.
We spent a LOT in wages, more than most to establish ourselves as a top 2 team, which enabled us to play the cheaper, less spendy top of the league team to Utd's expensive buying top of the league team. As said if we were Villa then we'd pay more to get the same players and higher wages, as while Arshavin took a pay cut to join an established CL team and a supposed title contender(all derived from our reputation when we very much outspent Chelsea and City ) would he have done so to join Villa, not even a chance.
THink about Ronaldo, because we didn't get into fights over players like him, we didn't often get stung for large fee's, the best players or who were seen as the best players went to Utd for the biggest fee, and by being the other top team, we got the next best players, for way cheaper because Utd had already spent their money. If Utd played a bidding war with us against players we wanted, we'd have spent a lot more, but thats the role we went with, and it was successful, not lately though as theres too many clubs going for the second best players now so we've been letting others fight for them and have been buying from WAY down the list for FAR to long.
Arsenal have benefited immeasurably over the years thanks to the spending we did earlier. SO have Utd, they spent very heavily years ago and lately haven't been that bad. Considering they are top of the league and have been screwed with a very expensive Rio, Carrick, Berbatov, Anderson etc, they've still not spent more than Spurs but their reputation and established top tier team from being by far the biggest spenders before is what allows them to do so.
No, sounds like a bench replacement. Eduardo for Chamakh, Bendtner for Gervinho, yay, it really helps the team to spend more on new guys who sit on the bench for higher wages than the old guys, we've been doing this for years now.
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STOP MINDLESSLY SLAGGING YOUR OWN TEAM OFF!!! ARGH!
How the hell do you know how he is going to be used? Why the hell can you never support the team you supposedly support?!
Argh! Never raged on the internets, but my god you are annoying with the Wenger bashing!!
I still dont know why SAF /Gill hasnt even attempted a £28m bid for Modric, even if its rebuffed its still lodging interest in a player SAF has openly complimented more than once (and would possibly / probably fit in with Utd's formation a lot better than Sneijder
I can understand it would be disrespectful to any "current" team, but sometimes I wish those more experienced players would be more complimentary either about the EPL or Utd - but nearly all those Utd are seriously linked with (from the renouned players point of view) always seem to make it sound as though they are very reluctant to move.
Certain other English clubs show interest in the same quality of players abroad and the player in question seemingly cant say enough complimentary things about said club well before any deal has been brokered.
Sneijder is meant to be a huge fan of Utd (or according to some on here anyway) - but he certainly is showing exactly the opposite currently (and the Beckham link to my mind has more to do with Madrid or Milan links (where they have both played of course) or even just the wives - rather than anything Utd related imo)
I can understand it would be disrespectful to any "current" team, but sometimes I wish those more experienced players would be more complimentary either about the EPL or Utd - but nearly all those Utd are seriously linked with (from the renouned players point of view) always seem to make it sound as though they are very reluctant to move.
Certain other English clubs show interest in the same quality of players abroad and the player in question seemingly cant say enough complimentary things about said club well before any deal has been brokered.
Sneijder is meant to be a huge fan of Utd (or according to some on here anyway) - but he certainly is showing exactly the opposite currently (and the Beckham link to my mind has more to do with Madrid or Milan links (where they have both played of course) or even just the wives - rather than anything Utd related imo)
Fergie's said that he doesn't expect to sign Nasri as he thinks he's going somewhere else, although he doesn't rule out the possibility of him staying at Arsenal
This either means it's all a tactic and Nasri will be signing for us or it's all but a done deal to take him to City (thought Nasri wanted to go somewhere to win trophies and it wasn't all about money lol)
Obviously Wenger optimistically said earlier in the day that Nasri would be staying at Arsenal. The saga rumbles on....
Mixed reports as to whether there was any mention of Sneijder at this press conference...
This either means it's all a tactic and Nasri will be signing for us or it's all but a done deal to take him to City (thought Nasri wanted to go somewhere to win trophies and it wasn't all about money lol)
Obviously Wenger optimistically said earlier in the day that Nasri would be staying at Arsenal. The saga rumbles on....
Mixed reports as to whether there was any mention of Sneijder at this press conference...
I'd suspect like the Nasri one Fergie knows (or at least suspects) Modric isn't interested in going anywhere other than Chelsea. Who knows he may of known this even before Chelsea's first bid. They've bid 27m tonight, will be interesting to see if Levy sticks to his word....
Read Modric in the paper today, giving it all that about how Levy is arrogant but then he comes out sounding incredulous at the threat of being benched or, shock horror, having to play for the second team!!! Seems he has plenty of arrogance to go round himself.
Signed a 6 year contract only a year ago and yet comes out with lines saying "that is why I made the right decision to leave Tottenham", so basically in his mind he has already left, despite having FIVE years left on his contract.
Also were some interesting stats, basically when Modric plays Spurs average fewer points per game, score fewer goals per game, and and concede more goals per game. He's NEVER scored more than 3 Prem goals in a season and in my eyes is one of most overrated midfielders in the league.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Spurs should just get rid of him now and save themselves £40k/week, get the cash in and give themselves enough time to spend some of it should they decide to do so.
Signed a 6 year contract only a year ago and yet comes out with lines saying "that is why I made the right decision to leave Tottenham", so basically in his mind he has already left, despite having FIVE years left on his contract.
Also were some interesting stats, basically when Modric plays Spurs average fewer points per game, score fewer goals per game, and and concede more goals per game. He's NEVER scored more than 3 Prem goals in a season and in my eyes is one of most overrated midfielders in the league.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Spurs should just get rid of him now and save themselves £40k/week, get the cash in and give themselves enough time to spend some of it should they decide to do so.
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This isn't meant to be an inflammatory comment but what are you basing that on? Do you watch Ligue 1 very often as I don't get to watch any games, all I know of Gervinho is that his team have just won the league and that he was the only player last season in Ligue 1 who managed double digits for goals and assists. People are quick to jizz over the likes of Eden Hazard without seeing him play, and that's probably on name alone, or because he's good on FM or whatever. If he can replicate last season's form then he is well worth the £13,000,000 or however much he cost.
Don't forget that Vermaelen spent last season injured, he's a quality player and when he comes back I'd hope to see more organisation in the defence, especially from set pieces. With Djourou, Koscielny, Vermaelen and Squillaci the central defence has enough players and two of those made their debuts in the league last season so that has to be taken into a count too. Squillaci made some costly errors but I doubt he's on massive wages and he does have a bit of experience. Moving to a new club and a new league is a challenge for any player and I think him and Koscielny will settle down a bit.
I'd agree with you on the left back. Wenger was questioned on this and he stated that we have Gibbs, Traore and also Vermaelen who is capable of playing there so he doesn't see the need to spend money on a left back.
I'd disagree with you there. Almunia looks to be heading out the door and I think Fabianski and Szczesny are more than capable. Fabianski made some calamitous errors to begin with but he picked himself up and had a few good performances before the injury. Szczesny made his mistakes too but they're both very young for goalkeepers and still improving, I don't really see the GK as much a weak spot as it was at the start of the season as both of those GK's have improved.
I'd like to see another defensive midfielder, preferably a proven one from a good league but I expect Wilshere will have to fill that role if Song gets banned or injured. In fact I'd go as far as to say that Wilshere actually performs the holding duties better than Song, but to waste his attacking talent in a rearguard position would be criminal.
I wouldn't discount Arsenal just yet, we were still in it right until the final few games and we got to a cup final also, it's not all doom and gloom and with a fit van Persie up front and Vermaelen back in defence it's looking better now than it did last year, provided we hold on to Cesc of course which Wenger is pretty confident we can do. I also think he'll be staying this year, if Barcelona don't offer something acceptable then we have no reason to sell to them.
Sorry you can't have our next seasons best bench warmer for £28m
Just an opening bid (as they always are) and would ramp up the pressure between Levy /Modric
(admittedly I didnt know about the £27m bid earlier tonight)
Fair enough
Admittedly with a new manager that adds a critical new element - but if he really wants sporting success (esp in the CL - which he keeps on mentioning) surely you would go to the club who has been in 3 finals in 4 seasons, rahter than one final and 2 *1/4's or whatever its been). Seems a little strange is all
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To be fair i only got my android phones a few months ago and the galaxy that i seem to catch the . instead of <space> on about4 weeks ago or something! prior to that i always posted from a PC and although i might have mispelt the odd word, i never padded the posts with .'s inbetween words!
Actually my spelling is usually pretty good, ahh well. each to their own!
And as for the asda thing i think the synposis goes like this, i ask OCUk would you ask a random out in a supermarket.. Then i do nothing, forget about the thread - come back and then its about 8 pages of random guff and then some kind of 'is this you' facebook hunt, which it couldnt possibly be as im not actually registered on facebook. Followed by random people stalking th wrong shop lol. Then.. just people spouting random stuff really. Obviously some poeple have far too much time on their hands!
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I spent four years there - I wouldnt go back again unless I had to
(but then Im not driven by sporting success either)Sneijder didnt have a choice about leaving Spain though, and while the Inter team is somewhere there, its questionable exactly how good they are.
IF you are a fan of the club the location shouldnt matter as much as it seems to (for Jonny Foreigner anyway)
Song is GUARENTEED to miss at least 10 games this season.
Even if he is lucky with injuries, he is a yellow card waiting to happen so will get a ban for 5 yellows, 2 game ban for 10 yellows, probably get sent off at least once so more bans. He's the only holding midfielder we have so will need to get rested at some point, and he's also an African playing for one of the better African sides, so will likely miss several weeks at the turn of the year for the ACoN.
It is imperative that we sort this out, don't get me wrong Song came on a lot last season but he still isn't CL quality and bearing in mind the above we desperately need to buy in that position and have Song as our backup player. Wilshere likes to put a foot in so in an emergency he could fill the role but it is far from ideal, we need to buy.
Problem is Traore is useful as a wideman but terrible at LB, Gibbs is a bit better but likewise LB isn't his best position, when he first caught my eye was a few years ago in the Emirates cup playing left wing. Wenger seems obsessed with converting wingers to LBs. As for Vermaelen, we can't afford to move him out of the centre now that Gallas and Campbell have gone, we need him alongside Koscielny.
Obviously I wouldn't make LB a priority tho, that has to be a holding midfielder.
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How many times did you watch them play though? Fabianski spent most of the back end of the season out with a shoulder injury and Szczesny improved quite a lot. Crazy Jens had 90 minutes against Blackpool too.
I'm not saying they're the best in the league, but we were worse off when Fabianski was getting starts and letting in calamitous goals like the N'Zogbia one, or the cross which he pushed into the net, or the one in the Champions League where he picked up a Sol backpass and then rolled the ball to Falcao who tapped it in. They've both improved a lot and I wouldn't consider them liabilities anymore.
my opinion on him has changed a lot over the past week with his attitude. i don't want to deny him playing in the cl but i don't want him (or any other player who doesn't want to play for us) playing for us. there are better ways to go about angling for a move without publicly slagging off the team that pays your wages. he is our most important player but he's not bigger than the team and i don't want his attitude to affect the rest of the team. get shut, cash in, replace and get stronger. he is replacable and i just can't see how this can be good for spurs if he stays. i thought he was not the kind of person he now seems to be. publicly stating that he wants to go and play for chelsea is a kick in the teeth that no spurs fan deserves.
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