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Hmm fergie convinced rooney we were ambitious, then showed a lack of ambition by resolutely refusing to strebgthen our midfield in january.
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Jesus who could we of bought back in January that wasn't cup tied? Not to mention without strengthening the club still won the title, reached the semi finals of the FA Cup and final of Champions League
You're just on one massive WUM these days aren't ya
You're just on one massive WUM these days aren't ya
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Excellent news. Also heard that we are in for Upson. I'd be quite pleased with those 2 signings!
First its not like Arsenal need the money and secondly it makes footballing sense too IMO - if they lose Fab they'll get a shed-load of money to strengthen anyway and having an experienced player in Nasri will help any new players settle in. Likewise if Fab stays, they can sell Nasri for the same reason.
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They reckon charlie adams was available. plus any number of foreigners. i dont know what a wum is sorry.
what utd really need is a great corner and set piece taker. Im not sure how young fares in this area but im hoping we can start the season with someone who can kick it past the first.man!
You think Adam would be a sign of our ambition?
Adam's no better than Carrick tbh, for all the set piece play he may have I'd struggle to see Adam dictate the midfield area against the likes of Chelsea and Schalke like Carrick did last season.
As for set piece play like Rich said Young is fantastic in this area as is Sneijder if he signs.
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I love how not a single United fan agrees with Nick
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I do hope so because we can call up.the big guns from the back.but its utterly pointless if you cant deliver the ball anywhere near them.
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I love how not a single United fan agrees with Nick
Wait didnt i put your point to.bed further up the page? If we did sign, say nzogbia would you.put him before or after fletcher in the midfield line up? That and question marks over carrick and anderson could result in nzogbia becoming the first choice rather than the repacement for 5th choice as you purport.
And its odd that you are all in one mighty group think when clearly people looking from the outside in can easily state that nzog is decent, or that our midfield is weak, or that any self respecting club would probably shut up shop than start with darron gibson and oshea in center midfield or throw smalling up front instead of a striker who can head the ball. it really is quite embarrassing that we resort to these desperate strategies.
In terms of free kicks/corners one major thing to think about would be to stop Giggs taking so many corners. His delivery from corners was cack this season, but due to his seniority not many players are going to tell him to **** off. Part of me will be pleased when he retires so we can get back to picking players on form rather than some misplaced nostalgia.
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Please. Don't make me laugh.
They're different types of players, N'Zogbia is traditionally a wide attacking player, Fletcher is a central defensive player. I would have thought this didn't need to be explained.
See above, different types of players. But no I don't think N'Zogbia is better than either of them in the role we want to play them. And the reason I said he would be the replacement for the 5th choice player, is that was who you said he was better than. You made no mention of Anderson or Carrick in your original post.
"clearly people looking from the outside"? Any proof of that?
No one has said our midfield isn't weaker (although not weak, just weaker in comparison to our main rivals and the other areas of our team) That doesn't mean we need to throw money at players who aren't an improvement on what we have.
Gibson and O'Shea? How many times have we started those two in central midfield? not to mention that O'Shea has LEFT THE CLUB, I will write it in capitals again as it doesn't seem to have sunk in. Gibson is also likely to leave.
Smalling up front? I think that happened once towards the end of a match, perhaps we should sign a keeper to replace O'Shea because he played in goal once.
We don't need a big lump up front, yes it would be useful to have a stronger striker in the air but we already have too many players up front and we don't look like selling.
Well said. What we need is a midfielder who can play sliderule passes between the two CBs to Hernandez/Rooney and has the vision to ping it out wide quickly and accurately, not dawdle around looking for Hollywood arcing passes (I'm looking at you Michael).
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Shamikebab, you must have missed p242 where even dm says he can and has played centrally before.
and no i never mwntioned carrick or anderson but clearly that was implied otherwise who else were the 4 players in front of cleverly? ¿confused¿.
realistically our first 4 central midfielders ho in this.order on the teamsheet
Carrick
anderson
fletcher
gibson
cleverly
now you can debate the order till tje cows come home but realistically none of those 4 would confortably oust the central 2 from any other top 4 club. Carrick.is woeful, anderson unproven, fletcher awful.technically and passing wise. so i mean are you so sure thst nzogbia couldnt replace any of fletcher, gibson either way that bumps him to 3rd or 4th in our pecking order immediateky rendering your challenging for 5th place point completely mute.
if you factor in how awful our first choice cm is: carrick then as i say you could easily squeeze nzog in there. so while you want to argue me down i think you would need an army of you just to make a case for carrick being anything but a total basket case. dont make me google 'shocking michael carrick' the 1,200,000 results that crop up might waken you up from this utopian fantasy world you.live in where man utds midfield dominate the game against great opposition.
and no i never mwntioned carrick or anderson but clearly that was implied otherwise who else were the 4 players in front of cleverly? ¿confused¿.
realistically our first 4 central midfielders ho in this.order on the teamsheet
Carrick
anderson
fletcher
gibson
cleverly
now you can debate the order till tje cows come home but realistically none of those 4 would confortably oust the central 2 from any other top 4 club. Carrick.is woeful, anderson unproven, fletcher awful.technically and passing wise. so i mean are you so sure thst nzogbia couldnt replace any of fletcher, gibson either way that bumps him to 3rd or 4th in our pecking order immediateky rendering your challenging for 5th place point completely mute.
if you factor in how awful our first choice cm is: carrick then as i say you could easily squeeze nzog in there. so while you want to argue me down i think you would need an army of you just to make a case for carrick being anything but a total basket case. dont make me google 'shocking michael carrick' the 1,200,000 results that crop up might waken you up from this utopian fantasy world you.live in where man utds midfield dominate the game against great opposition.
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Where did I say he couldn't? I said it wasn't his traditional position. We could play Fabio in central midfield, doesn't mean it's where he is best suited.
You didn't mention 4 players, I mentioned that. You simply said he was better than O'Shea and Cleverley, perhaps you should read your own posts more closely?
Gibson will likely be leaving, Giggs plays in the centre now and I'm sure we will be signing someone.
I would say the order is:
Carrick, Fletcher, Giggs, Anderson, Park, Cleverley. In any order you chose.
So no the point isn't mute.
The biggest point you have failed to address is why on earth we should spend 15-20m on a player who hardly sets the world alight, force him into a position that he has barely played in and there is no evidence that he would be any better in that position than the players we already have.
Look at what you are saying and realise how ridiculous a decision it would be.
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Now, now Icebus, Don't argue with Nick's ideal partnership of N'Zogbia and Rooney in midfield
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