** Summer Transfer Window 2011/12 Season Rumours/Signings **

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It's funny reading these Clichy quotes every five minutes. Everytime I saw the guy play in the past two seasons he was messing up left, right and center. He might want to look at himself before criticising the club that made him who he is today.
 
Andybtsn said:
It's funny reading these Clichy quotes every five minutes. Everytime I saw the guy play in the past two seasons he was messing up left, right and center. He might want to look at himself before criticising the club that made him who he is today.
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That's exactly what I think also. It's the same with Denilson saying he wants to win things, if he passed forwards once in a while maybe he'd start creating some scoring chances.
 
The Running Man said:
Valencia is poor. woeful delivery, lack of skill. he is strong though and reasonably quick so he gets away with it most of the time.

Sneijder is pure fantasy talk imo. id say the odds favour cleverly fouling up our first team squad rather than wes the best neijder come the start of the season. problem is that nzogbia is already 5 times the player he is so for every minute cleverly plays we could have easily had someone better out there.

oshea, brown etc need yo be finally put out to pasture as well.
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Not saying im always right but looking back a month or so i was clearly on the right lines with this one...

Good to see that at least oshea and brown have gone as i wanted too...
 
elmuzzy66. said:
Buying a 18/19 year old is no production line or a youth setup for that matter. Signning them in their early teens is what i think of production line, like what ajax had a decade ago and barca have now.
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Barca bought a product of Leeds United's youth setup last month.

elmuzzy66. said:
Does it matter? A top club should be measured by whats coming into the trophy cabinet not by how well or how much profit they are making selling players. If they ask me, a liverpool fan, what do you prefer;
a) balanced books but no silverware in years or
b) Millions in debt but winning epls, cl etc like man utd

I would take b everytime. Sports is about winning and nothing more.
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Rubbish. Would you prefer a full tilt at the title and several cups and then decades of nothing, or a sustained attempt without over extending yourself and building slowly?

Chasing the dream kills clubs that don't have multi-billionaire owners willing to pump cash in.
 
drunkenmaster said:
Actually so far, the project has encouraged bad spending habits, just on wages. Emirates has boosted our match day income pretty dramatically, problem is our wages have gone up by the exact same amount.

I keep pointing out to people Arsenal don't have a quality youth setup but buy all our first teamers(almost all), we bring in kids at 18-19 and they don't come because Wenger is great with youths, its because Barca probably offered Cesc 10k a week, and Wenger offered him 20k. We offer young players without a reputation less than a top class slightly older player would want, but more than most pay for similarly aged players, but this costs us.

While Clichy performed very well and deserved his wages, and 7mil isn't a bad fee to get back, Bendtner isn't on disimilar money and Wenger refuses to play the guy, though when he does he has a very good scoring, and assisting rate while in a position no other manager in the world would force him into.

Once Arsenal's lone is repaid, unless the business side is fixed, sponsorship/other investments then we'll be back to losing money as we're barely at breaking even point today, while Wenger is bringing in more expensive replacements for players we have.

Look at how high our wages are and thats with half our "youth team" out on lone.

I have no problem signing 19 yr olds for first team duty, but if they are absolute rubbish, like Diaby, Denilson, Song, and a dozen others in our youth setup, GET RID OF THEM. Instead of ditching them we're spending 30-40mil a year on guys that shouldn't be playing anywhere near this level.

Utd have some players like that, Gibson, and a couple others, but somehow they managed to get a league winners medal and play enough games, while Bendtner can't get a game, neither can Vela, or Chamakh.

We play one striker, we have RVP, 3 strikers couldn't get a game last year(well Chamakh couldn't when RVP was fit) so thats 10mil a year sitting on the bench doing nothing. So Wenger's looking to keep Chamakh, Vela, sell Bendtner and has bought a striker to replace him who will be on higher wages, another striker who won't get a game, and, well there's rumours we're in for yet another striker..........

So 3 strikers can't get a game, sell one, buy two, look for another in the one area of the squad we can't improve. Same old crap over and over again, we're increasing our wage load, while our yearly incoming money isn't increasing really, with no increase in first team quality.
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Its loan, not lone.

Also, Arsenal made £56 million pre-tax profit last year, hardly only just breaking even. Plus I believe many of our major sponsorship deals are up for grabs in 2014. They are aware they undersold themselves in the last round of sponsorship and I'm sure they won't make the same mistake again.
 
Shamikebab said:
I'd love these Ganso rumours to be something other than rumours :(
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Wishful thinking is great isnt it (just like the hope that the Sneijder deal will be resurrected :))

I cant even start thinking about what Utd will do without Fletcher as well for the first few months (surely he wont be anything like match fit before Oct/ Nov and even then he will be behind the curve because of no pre-season)

Really hopes that SAF's decision not to take Pogba /Morrison on the tour doesnt backfire - because surely we are going to need one or both of them (even if just for the CC games and lower EPL games)

Doesnt want to think about having another season with Gibson (as he seems to be a greedy lil ***** as well as pretty darn awful lol)......not to mention he could be demoralised by staying where he isnt really wanted
 
The Running Man said:
Not saying im always right but looking back a month or so i was clearly on the right lines with this one...

Good to see that at least oshea and brown have gone as i wanted too...
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What exactly were your right about?

Your assessment of Valencia is still wrong
The transfer window has yet to shut and many within football still expect the Sneijder deal to happen
O'Shea and Brown have been certs to leave well before your post, the minute Sunderland had a bid accepted to be exact

I'd wait till Spetember if I were you before you start banging that look at me drum
 
Mark1989 said:
Chris Mavinga officially joined Blackpool, Only ever featured in our reserve side doesnt say fee so im guessing will stay that way
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:confused:

I'd love to know how you've got Chris Mavinga (a big black French defender) mixed up with Gerardo Bruna (a short white Argentinian forward) :p

Bruna's joined Blackpool for an undisclosed fee and Mavinga is likely to join Rennes in the next few days for a reported fee of £1m :)
 
Gooner14 said:
To be fair I believe they front loaded the deal as they wanted the money upfront for Ashburton Grove.
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Yes, I seem to recall that is correct. Also, the loan for the development of Highbury Square has now been paid off in full, ahead of schedule, so our repayments on all of the new stadium loans are now much lower than they were expected to be at this time.
 
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