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It is not the same specification. Firstly, the Defy has a OMAP3630 which is ARM7 core based on the Cortex A8. The Skate seems to be using a slower ARM6 core. It also looks like the Skate will be probably using a Adreno 200 GPU which is slower than the SGX530 in the Defy. The Defy supports flash which ZTE confirmed the Skate will not. The Defy is also water resistant too,has 2GB of internal storage as opposed to the 512MB on the Skate and it also comes with a 2GB SD card.
The ZTE Skate needs to be under £150 if it is still using an ARM6 CPU and Adreno 200 GPU.
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Was about to post exactly the same CAT.
The Defy is significantly better specced in terms of internal hardware, its fairly decent at stock but when rooted & overclocked its simply awesome.
When you also add that its got Gorilla Glass on the front and got shock proof casing I don't see any reason to buy one of these over it.
However it may sell well simply because people will see the screen and not care about what behind it.
The Defy is significantly better specced in terms of internal hardware, its fairly decent at stock but when rooted & overclocked its simply awesome.
When you also add that its got Gorilla Glass on the front and got shock proof casing I don't see any reason to buy one of these over it.
However it may sell well simply because people will see the screen and not care about what behind it.
whatever, my point still stands, they're very similarly specced, and since i'm not 7 years old i don't require a waterproof phone. Skate will have flash, perhaps not officially, but it'll have it.
but yea, definitely needs to be £140-150, as previously mentioned in post 5.
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Actually,they are not similar specced and hence your point is wrong with regards to this. The only way it would be similarly specced if did not come with an ARM6 CPU and had at least an Adreno 205 GPU like the Huawei U8800. The U8800 uses an MSM7230 ARM7 Snapdragon and even then the OMAP3600 series is supposedly meant to be faster at similar clockspeeds. The Defy uses the same screen and SOC as the Droid X and Droid 2 but the SOC is running at 800MHZ instead of 1GHZ. The SOC is underclocked on purpose meaning it can easily hit 1GHZ.
If the 1GHZ version of the Skate had come with a Snapdragon and Adreno 205 then it would be easily worth £200 due to the larger screen. The U8800 is around £180 SIM-free and the Defy around £230 SIM-free.
Using your logic I suppose that would also mean a 3GHZ Pentium D and a 3GHZ E8400 are the same speed.
BTW,ARM6 CPUs are not used in most phones over £200 and the Huawei U8800 still has a faster CPU even though it is under £200. On top of this the other phones support flash officially and without any faffing about. The ZTE comments about flash support are vague at best. It goes between their phone not supporting flash to it does but licensing is too expensive. The Defy comes with 2GB of on-board storage and comes with a 2GB SD card as standard. If you want to mod the phone the Defy is still better.
Also,the Defy is simply better built.
I agreed with this too but looking at the current price of the OSF it might be priced higher.
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So I suggest they're similarly specced and you go into the specifics of the CPU architecture, lulz.
They are both 800mhz android devices with 512mb of ram and upto 32gb SD. That is all I meant. I don't doubt the defy is built better - the build quality of the ZTE blade was horrific.
The camera specs, battery specs and device weight are also very similar.
I would take a new ZTE Skate over a 2nd hand Defy, unless the Defy was immaculate and unmarked with warranty.
They are both 800mhz android devices with 512mb of ram and upto 32gb SD. That is all I meant. I don't doubt the defy is built better - the build quality of the ZTE blade was horrific.
The camera specs, battery specs and device weight are also very similar.
I would take a new ZTE Skate over a 2nd hand Defy, unless the Defy was immaculate and unmarked with warranty.
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It is a shame that the Huawei Ideos X6 is not available in the UK yet:
http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_u9000_ideos_x6-3595.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_u9000_ideos_x6-3595.php
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+1 if you going into complex CPU stuff with mobiles i think you in the wrong price range.
Like most people when i buy a phone i dont give a toss if it has a AMD cpz wtf i dont give a .... all i care is that it has pretty decent phone quality, doesnt lag like hell moving though the phone and has a good texting/email interface.
Who cares about the mass details,il be suprised if you go into a phone shop and they even know themselfs about the CPU/mass details anyhow, and most likely you get the "go back to the cave wiedo look"
if its 150 id get one if its 200 il get SF and stick that cool keyboard app on it.
personally anything more than 200 for a phone is silly money unless you on contract.
Like most people when i buy a phone i dont give a toss if it has a AMD cpz wtf i dont give a .... all i care is that it has pretty decent phone quality, doesnt lag like hell moving though the phone and has a good texting/email interface.
Who cares about the mass details,il be suprised if you go into a phone shop and they even know themselfs about the CPU/mass details anyhow, and most likely you get the "go back to the cave wiedo look"
if its 150 id get one if its 200 il get SF and stick that cool keyboard app on it.
personally anything more than 200 for a phone is silly money unless you on contract.
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Except it is £250 SIM free which means it is overpriced for that price range. It is very plasticky too and still a bit slow in use according to people who have handled it. Perhaps this is why there are two versions of the phone for sale. A lower price 800MHZ version and a higher price version with a 1GHZ CPU.
If you think that the Zte Skate is a great £250 phone than good for you lot but very few people would think so if you look at the actual £200 to £300 competition which is also SIM-free. The competition is also better built which also plays a part in the perception of the phone. The U8800 is around £180 SIM-free too and keeps selling out at the CPW.
BTW,the OSF has now risen in price to £115 including the mandatory £10 top-up at the Orange Store.
Anything over £160 and this phone is overpriced as you need to have a mandatory £10 to £20 top-up too.
+1 if you going into complex CPU stuff with mobiles i think you in the wrong price range.
Like most people when i buy a phone i dont give a toss if it has a AMD cpz wtf i dont give a .... all i care is that it has pretty decent phone quality, doesnt lag like hell moving though the phone and has a good texting/email interface.
Who cares about the mass details,il be suprised if you go into a phone shop and they even know themselfs about the CPU/mass details anyhow, and most likely you get the "go back to the cave wiedo look"
if its 150 id get one if its 200 il get SF and stick that cool keyboard app on it.
personally anything more than 200 for a phone is silly money unless you on contract.
So by your standards the Zte Skate must be not very good then. It is over £200 and is very plasticky in build quality. BTW,I was comparing SIM-free prices not network locked prices.
You also have a Crossfire capable motherboard too, which seems very geekish as I know no one who would even bother with more than one card:
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18137425
Most people would be -"why would you need the option to run two graphic cards?? You want to spend £100 o £200 on a graphics card every year or two and maybe have two cards?? My console cost £150 to £250 and will last me 4 to 5 years". Most likely:""go back to the cave weirdo look" in your words.
Most people would just use a console and would not even care about what graphics card they have.
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If it is £150 on Orange then I would consider it great value as all the other phones have worse screens and either have a slower CPU or less system RAM.
same here.. even tho i feel it would be too big for my liking i would still sell my OSF and get this..
Might be an idea to sell asap and use a temp phone as I don't think the OSF will be worth a lot when the OMC comes out.
Can't see why not...it's still got a big following, and I feel the increase up to a Monte will mean it keeps roughly where it is! Of course, it all depends on the Monte price..
The Huawei U8800 titan is £174 from CPW... That's basically a desire S running stock 2.2.
huh? Desire S has an LCD screen, an extra 200mhz cpu power, 256mb extra ram and a better battery
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huh? Desire S has an LCD screen, an extra 200mhz cpu power, 256mb extra ram and a better battery
You mean S-LCD don't you??
Still the SIM-free price is much lower than the SIM-free prices listed so far for the ZTE Skate. SIM-free the Zte Skate is not worth more than £200 IMHO.
OTH,a SIM-free Samsung Nexus S can be had for around £286 delivered! It has a 4.0 inch screen,1GHZ Hummingbird CPU,SGX540 GPU,16GB of internal storage and a S-LCD display.
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