** Summer Transfer Window 2011/12 Season Rumours/Signings **

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I would be very surprised if the Barca side doesn't match that as used last season - as Shamike says, Fabregas and Sanchez are merely going to be additions to the squad, not the team.

IF Utd can add some class in the centre of midfield, they have a chance, especially if they meet in the one off final.
 
sandy10 said:
"free money"? put yours where your not so inconsiderable virtual mouth is!.

Top 3 WILL BE from Man U, Man C and Chelsea.
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If city is lucky to finish 4th then it will grab it from Arsenal at the end of the season for obvious reasons. But if it is to fight for any position with lfc be it 3rd or 4th or what ever then it will loose out. Man City won't finish in he Top 3 and i will maintain my stand up to the last game of the season.
 
Of course sanchez isnt a replacement for say, messi. but he can easily replace the weaker ones like Pedro, keita etc. And lets face it - both of those players (fab, sanchez) walk right into our first team no problem. So as i said they have strengthened by adding 2 players who are materially better than our players in their respective positions. Yet its arguable that our signings are just squad players and wouldnt walk into barcas team at all. and the loss of paul scholes who we may not be able to replace at all? Im confused as to how anyone can see anything other than a large gap becoming a chasm.
 
The Running Man said:
Fergie has talked up man utd should be challenging to topple barca next year. can anyone explain how this can possible if barca improve by spending circa 80 million on 2 players who are really additions - not replacements - while we have only spend 50 million - 20 on a replacement keeper, 18 on a defender who wont play in the big games and a half decent winger who really is quite similar to what we already had?

Im struggling to see how we are even close to closing the gap between barca + sanchez and potentially fabregas. if anything i would say the gap is actually widening considering we have lost scholes and have so far done nothing to address the main issues of a below par midfield central?
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Come on then your poor spoilt little United fan what do you suggest your club should be doing then? Signing Sanchez and Fabregas themselves? You do realise that both only want to play for Barca dont you? What you gonna do force Arsenal to sell to a rival, force Sanchez to live in England and force both players to play for United?

Time and time again you've said United wont sign Sneijder, he's just a fantasy signing and now you're moaning that United aren't trying to sign players of this ilk talk about the glass being half empty :rolleyes:

You're moaning about United signing Young because he's too similar to what United already have yet you dont see the similarities in between Xavi/Iniesta & Fabregas? So United strengthening their squad with players of more or less the same ability is a negative but Barca doing the same is a positive for them?
 
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You must be a very deluded individual.

Xavi.is a great great player. fab might not replace him next week but he is sinilar if not as good/better like iniesta who is also high up the food chain.

Valencia on the other hand isnt going to make anyones world XI is he? Bringing in someone like young who is good but not neccessarily tangibly that much better than valencia is clearly nothing like the barca situation.

At least barca know they need a xavi replacement lined up and are trying to buy the best players possible. and look likely to do it. scholes has gone yet we havent invested well enough in players to replace him. i hope that you can understand the difference between buying a world class player like cesc and signing first valencia to replace super ronaldo and now ashley young...? the relative signings are not even on the same planet.
 
The Running Man said:
You must be a very deluded individual.

Xavi.is a great great player. fab might not replace him next week but he is sinilar if not as good/better like iniesta who is also high up the food chain.

Valencia on the other hand isnt going to make anyones world XI is he? Bringing in someone like young who is good but not neccessarily tangibly that much better than valencia is clearly nothing like the barca situation.

At least barca know they need a xavi replacement lined up and are trying to buy the best players possible. and look likely to do it. scholes has gone yet we havent invested well enough in players to replace him. i hope that you can understand the difference between buying a world class player like cesc and signing first valencia to replace super ronaldo and now ashley young...? the relative signings are not even on the same planet.
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Why do you keep bringing up Valencia? Is that all you've got? What on earth does someone bought 2 years ago got to do with this transfer window and Fergies comments roughly 6 weeks ago about getting closer to Barca have to do with Valencia? You're now moaning about Valencia replacing Ronaldo 2 years ago well answer me this Nostradamus who exactly do you buy to replace at the time the best player in the world? Anyone bought to replace Ronaldo would be a step down because he was the best player in the world at that time.

And why fail to address the main question of my previous post? You want investment to replace Scholes (someone that barely played last season but I'll let that point slide) yet the most obvious target you claim is a fantasy signing so if players like Sneijder are fantasy signings who should United be signing that matches the level of Xavi, Iniesta et all that are as good but not in your head fantasy signings? And dont you ******* dare say N'Zogbia!!!
 
Well can.an impartial third person arbitrate. whos team is more strengthened given the new signings/retirements. And yes i know barcas transfers arent sealed yet)

Signing (potentially)

Cesc + Sanchez (no retirements to cover)
a. young, de gea, jones (VDS retired, Scholes retired, giggs due retirement)

Then we can see who should be thrown under a bus...
 
The Running Man said:
Well can.an impartial third person arbitrate. whos team is more strengthened given the new signings/retirements. And yes i know barcas transfers arent sealed yet)

Signing (potentially)

Cesc + Sanchez (no retirements to cover)
a. young, de gea, jones (VDS retired, Scholes retired, giggs due retirement)

Then we can see who should be thrown under a bus...
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Nor are United's, dont you realise that the speculation suggesting Barca are going to sign Sanchez and Fabregas (the latter who they haven't even agreed a fee yet) are no more fool proof than the speculation that United are going to sign Sneijder

You're whole argument is based on ifs and buts
 
Shamikebab said:
I don't see how those Barca additions are really improvements on their first team. Sanchez is unproven and Fabregas isn't really going to strengthen their first team, just their depth in midfield.
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How is Sanchez unproven? Hes been a first team regular for Chile for a while now played in the World Cup and has played in Serie A for years.
 
The Running Man said:
Well can.an impartial third person arbitrate. whos team is more strengthened given the new signings/retirements. And yes i know barcas transfers arent sealed yet)

Signing (potentially)

Cesc + Sanchez (no retirements to cover)
a. young, de gea, jones (VDS retired, Scholes retired, giggs due retirement)

Then we can see who should be thrown under a bus...
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Tell you what, how about both of you bugger off and talk about this somewhere else because it is in no way a transfer rumour, signing or anything that anyone cares about at all.

I am sure that both of you are waiting for the other person to change their opinion based on your repeated and pointless posts but i'll let you in on a secret. Its a ******* opinion, its not going to change because someone disagrees with you. Really am getting sick of trawling through pages of **** posts from 4-5 people just bickering about something which is not fact and pure speculation.
 
Tom84 said:
Nor are United's, dont you realise that the speculation suggesting Barca are going to sign Sanchez and Fabregas (the latter who they haven't even agreed a fee yet) are no more fool proof than the speculation that United are going to sign Sneijder

You're whole argument is based on ifs and buts
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The huge difference is that both sanchez and fabregas are desperate to sign for barcelona- sneijder im not so sure he is frothing at the mouth to move to us - that and the fee make it a less likely transfer.

How close is the sanchez deal? Well his agent is in catalan country wrangling his end of the fees most likely. Cesc is in a 3 year limbo but wanting to go.

Fergie is saying that wesley isnt coming to us. so ill leave you to conpute your own odds.
 
St.Josh said:
How is Sanchez unproven? Hes been a first team regular for Chile for a while now played in the World Cup and has played in Serie A for years.
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The thing with Sanchez is will he be an improvement over Pedro? Pedro seems to fit perfectly into Barca's system with his diagonal runs, Sanchez on the other hand is very much an out and out winger and Barca signed an out and out winger in the January window in Jeffren and he's barely got a look in. I know Sanchez is a much bigger name in football and will be coming in for a much bigger transfer fee but Barca's last big money signing Ibrahimovic only lasted a season with them because he didn't fit into their system.

Fabregas makes sense as Xavi isn't getting any younger and had to play so many games last season due to their lack of depth so next season Thiago and Fabregas will address that but personally I dont see where Sanchez fits in and I'd be quite surprised if they did sign both.
 
The Running Man said:
The huge difference is that both sanchez and fabregas are desperate to sign for barcelona- sneijder im not so sure he is frothing at the mouth to move to us - that and the fee make it a less likely transfer.

How close is the sanchez deal? Well his agent is in catalan country wrangling his end of the fees most likely. Cesc is in a 3 year limbo but wanting to go.

Fergie is saying that wesley isnt coming to us. so ill leave you to conpute your own odds.
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From what I've read quotes attributed to Sneijder's Father, Mother, third uncle twice removed all say Sneijder does indeed want to join United will it happen who knows but it's certainly no less sure to happen than either of these two potential Barca transfers

Regarding Sanchez media reports have been saying it's a done deal since well before the Copa America and yet still nothing has been signed so make of that what you will

Fergie also said De Gea wouldn't be joining and then 2 weeks later he signed, dont take everything Fergie says regarding transfers as gospel. Wenger also says Fabregas is not for sale and will still be at Arsenal next season, do you believe him as well?
 
Leicester have signed Pantsil. I'm going to be putting £20 on them getting promoted next season I think!
 
And Fez ill tell you what, i was responding to press reports and speculation from fergie regarding us challenging barca next year and him being happy with our squad.

If you stated that signing Sanchez is better than Young, or that signing Cesc is useful and you get told to jump off a bridge - would you find that acceptable, or a completely unacceptable?
 
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