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Because he's probably on 3-4mil a year, maybe something stupidly higher but not that likely IMHO, so 1mil over the next two years will SAVE them probably 7-8 mil. Considering he probably gets a bonus for league titles, champs league titles, cup titles if Barca win say 4 different titles in those two seasons thats probably another 1-2mil in bonuses they get out of.
As for Jet leaving Arsenal, or possibly, another joke of Arsenal's youth system, Jet can't get a game, Vela can't get a game, Bendtner can't get a game, all three want out, all 3 should be getting games. Jet is who we should have on the bench for 20k a week, instead of Rosicky on 60-70k a week. He's also quality, strong, fast for his size, good all around passing, movement, shooting. We let these guys leave, Bentley, Pennant, Jet, who really should be rotation players at Arsenal for relatively cheap wages rather than expensive guys who end up on the bench and don't play.
Wilshire looked fantastic the preseason the year before we played him, we ignored him for 6 months, he went to Bolton and strolled into their first team, on the wing, and was very good instantly. He was SO good this year its insanely obvious he could have been playing the year before for us aswell. Jet looked excellent in preseason, then we send him off.
I mean he's far better than Diaby(who started at Arsenal on the wing and is literally awful in a deep central role), keep Jet for next to nothing, sell Diaby or Rosicky, and save 2 mil a year and if Jet turns out to be brilliant, we already have him, if not, then if he plays as much as Rosicky did, it won't ruddy matter.
Even more stupidly, he won't give Jet a real go in the first team, but ruddy Randall got his chance 6 years ago maybe, was rubbish, has been rubbish ever since and we finally released him 5-6 years later, 3-4million wasted, because he's still completely rubbish, yet Jet who really has potential to be good, will be sold off while we keep FAR more expensive players on the bench not playing, its nothing short of retarded. Also yes, I know he hasn't been sold, its a rumour, but its standard business practice at Arsenal.
How is Lansbury going to turn into a great Arsenal player, if he's training at a significantly worse club, playing in a worse league, for the kind of money we're throwing at a young player he should be getting a chance in OUR team, training with better coaches, and if he can't perform, lose him.
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Liverpool loaned out Scott Carson to Villa for a season a few years back, Villa paid us close to £2m, Tevez cost Utd anything up to £10m for 2 seasons. You don't pay clubs to take your players on loan, certainly not players of the calibre of Bojan anyway.
If they just wanted to loan him out, there would be plenty of clubs that would be willing to take him without Barca having to pay anything out and most likely willing to pay Barca a decent loan fee too.
Ha **** you all... 
we don't need any new signings to win anything because Kenwright is sorting us out... “I have every finger crossed and would be so pleased if Everton can lift a bit of silverware.”
Oh well that's very nice of you Bill, thanks ****ing lot for all your hard work you ****!
we don't need any new signings to win anything because Kenwright is sorting us out... “I have every finger crossed and would be so pleased if Everton can lift a bit of silverware.”Oh well that's very nice of you Bill, thanks ****ing lot for all your hard work you ****!
Great deal for Barca - but it stinks from Roma's just as much.
Its written so that unless the player becomes the next best thing (no disrespect but unlikely) its not worth Roma trying to keep him after the two years.
So they go through the "pain" of training him and getting a potentially inconsistant player - as he is young/ in training , nothing wrong with that - and they make a loss on the deal also (+1m before wages are taken nto account)
My reading on the transfer is that costs Roma €12 to get him now, if in 2 years time Barca want him back then they pay €13 but in the likely event that they dont want him back that's it. It's only going to cost Roma more money if Barca decide they want him back in 2 years time which again I find doubtful
Barca have obviously learnt from the Csec/Pique incidents and are covering themselves should products of their youth system become world class at other clubs in Bojan's case I highly doubt that will happen though tbh
Barca have obviously learnt from the Csec/Pique incidents and are covering themselves should products of their youth system become world class at other clubs in Bojan's case I highly doubt that will happen though tbh
The general feeling on Arsenal blogs is that JET's attitude stinks, hence why he hasn't progressed at the club. If that's true, then good riddance. 20 years old, and yet to really prove himself, but thinks he's the dog's ******* already.
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Skelenberg might be off to Roma for 8 million euros. Now when i mentioned Skelenberg some pages ago i was told resolutely he would cost maybe the same as de gear and not closer to 10 as i suggested. dont worry ill search for it and flush out the nei sayers shortly.
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Ahah shamblekebab i should have known it to be you. Now i might be captain hindsight but then maybe you should be captain of the blind team?
Im not saying we should havery signed him specifically but next time you try to shoot a man in the back, just pause for a second and ask yourself are you really, really sure you were justified before loading one into the chamber.
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But you were just guessing like you always do
He clearly isn't that good if none of the big clubs went in for him.
At the time you were suggesting he would be a better buy than De Gea, surely if that were true then a bigger club would have gone in for him?
He clearly isn't that good if none of the big clubs went in for him.
At the time you were suggesting he would be a better buy than De Gea, surely if that were true then a bigger club would have gone in for him?
And he didn't set the World on fire at Cardiff. So much promise, little delivery so far.
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Everytime I come here there's a post by Nick, whinging. Let's do that thing they do at marriage counseling and stuff, when you say a negative thing you also have to think of a positive thing...
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yea you know why Killswitch? Because i make a comment like - 'Skelenberg will only cost 10mill or so'
then i get into a 2 page bloodbath with 'fans' who think they know better and make me have to justify to the Nth degree my comment, even though what i said was pretty much common sense.
And even though Shamikebab was clearly wrong, he still isn't prepared to say he was wrong - now he has changed tac and instead saying that he isn't that good anyway! Yet if you go back to page 55/56 that WASNT the intonation at all.
I might say that De Gea is unproven, end up in a huge argument, but again im stating the obvious, not that a square is infact a circle. Then someone says that Sanchez is proven and it becomes a case where i can clearly identify posters who are literally spoiling to disagree with me, but clearly know jack all.
Same with the post i made yesterday about the quality of transfers comparing Barca and UTD and saying that Barcas are higher quality, which is obvious. Then i have to deal with how the signings are 'potential' and not real but today we see official confirmation of the deal going ahead subject to a medical. So i have to ask - why are tom84 and shamikebab so determined to draw out the smallest little point into a 2 page angst, only to find out 2 days, or 2 weeks later that they were wrong and that they needlessly caused me to have to fight for page upon page just to try and get a single point across. So backward its untrue.
then i get into a 2 page bloodbath with 'fans' who think they know better and make me have to justify to the Nth degree my comment, even though what i said was pretty much common sense.
And even though Shamikebab was clearly wrong, he still isn't prepared to say he was wrong - now he has changed tac and instead saying that he isn't that good anyway! Yet if you go back to page 55/56 that WASNT the intonation at all.
I might say that De Gea is unproven, end up in a huge argument, but again im stating the obvious, not that a square is infact a circle. Then someone says that Sanchez is proven and it becomes a case where i can clearly identify posters who are literally spoiling to disagree with me, but clearly know jack all.
Same with the post i made yesterday about the quality of transfers comparing Barca and UTD and saying that Barcas are higher quality, which is obvious. Then i have to deal with how the signings are 'potential' and not real but today we see official confirmation of the deal going ahead subject to a medical. So i have to ask - why are tom84 and shamikebab so determined to draw out the smallest little point into a 2 page angst, only to find out 2 days, or 2 weeks later that they were wrong and that they needlessly caused me to have to fight for page upon page just to try and get a single point across. So backward its untrue.
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But how many of our youths attitudes stink, Pennant, Bentley, both huge personal issues, Jet possibly, Wilshire's hardly keeping his nose clean. Considering those guys spent so long at Arsenal, is that the problem with the players, or the way Arsenal brings these guys through?
Huge wages, too young, promises of Wenger promoting youth, getting to the age of 20 and still barely having a first team appearance. Liverpool, Villa, Spurs even, Utd especially are more than willing to give players games, at Arsenal our youth players rot on the bench, our first team squad players rot on the bench.
Seriously, Bendtner gets more assists, and more goals in a position he is in no way built for than Rosicky in a position he's played loads..... so Rosicky gets loads(ish) of game time and does smeg all with it, a player who is rarely fit and not good enough anymore, ageing and no potential to become a real asset to Arsenal now, while Bendtner gets what 5 games worth of minutes, in mostly short sub appearances, still does more than Rosicky AND costs less, so we're ditching Bendtner.
We promise kids the world, give them more than most clubs would ever give the same players at the same age.......... then ignore them.
But my main gripe is this, we have a HUGE youth squad, and honestly for the wages we pay them I'm not sure how many of the players on loan are still paid partially or fully by Arsenal.......... none of them make it, its money wasted. Its not really about if Jet will make it or is good enough, if he's not good enough, why's he here, if he is, give him a ruddy chance, everything inbetween is a complete waste. How the hell has Vela started 4-5 prem league games in THREE damn seasons, on 40k+ a week, play him, even a bit, or get rid. A player who plays, or is a viable alternative is worthwhile, a player who never puts on the shirt, is a complete waste.
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What's stoipping Barca freom saying they want him back when they actually don't - just to try and get an extra 28m euros -?
So did Temuri Ketsbaia!
Vucinic isn't a regular enough goalscorer to bridge the gap that Pavlyuchenko, Defoe, Crouch can't.
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