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Not really though. Spurs have had their moment in the sun and Man City have thrown enough vast quanitites of cash at the league to have an influence but not much has actually changed.

The financial separation hasn't changed much, the inflated market has meant that the top teams are having to spend big money to even buy players equal to what they already have.

Utd lost Ronaldo and with it their x-factor, more worryingly if I was a Utd fan they still haven't really replaced the players their Premiership dominance was built on. Their central midfield looks distinctly average and needs serious investment.

Arsenal need a better defence and Van Persie to not get injured. Then of course there is the Fabregas factor and greedy Nasri. Arsenal's set up should really be doing better than they have in their last 5 trophy-less seasons.

I thought Chelsea would do better last season, but Essien's absence in their midfield cost them dear, they also missed Lampard massively when he was injured, Ramires isn't good enough which is probably why they're so desperate for Modric.

Are Man City still a team of individuals playing mostly boring football? They have the potential to be world beaters, but if their best player leaves I can't see them doing much better than last season. One year of the team gelling might make a difference, but from the outside they still mostly look like a bunch of mercenaries.

Spurs havent spent anything yet to get back in the top four.

The problem is that big money is needing to be spent to improve upon what is already there. Big money striker is needed, but who, Llorente is the only one I've seen bandied about that is achievable and of the required standard.

As the team fully adjusts to the roaming style of VDV they should get more effective, hopefully the preseason will help that process.

City have their best player wanting to leave and are still acting like a pop star who will get to number one by buying their own cds.

Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea and Asenal will all be hovering this season.

I don't think there's much between any of the top 6 teams, the mini-league of last season shows that:

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Spurs then beat Liverpool 2-0 away to make the league look very even.
 
I don't think Modric will go this season. End of.

And he wont drop his performance level either. He's just not that sort of player. If he does he's only likely to find himself warming the bench for the next five years. And if he does that, who's going to want him at the end of it? He's more likely to try harder to make rival clubs bid even more money so that Spurs lose their resolve to hang on to him.

And the examples of that happening in the past?

To be fair he may do, but its rare to see a players value rise in such situations.
 
I don't think there's much between any of the top 6 teams, the mini-league of last season shows that:

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Spurs then beat Liverpool 2-0 away to make the league look very even.

The season is NOT decided by stripping it down to what one team did against their closest rivals.

Look at the final league table - its shows your teams position, its a fair and accurate reflection of your teams season.

Its pointless beating the big teams if you lose to the wee ones. Its pointless beating the wee ones if you lose to the big ones. Its all about getting the most points over the total number of games.
 
I'm sure you did :)

Not point scoring, hadn't seen you post in a while so wanted your opinion on how Spurs's squad is holding up.

Overall there's nothing really wrong with the squad, they just need one of the strikers to start scoring again or a big marquee striker to sign and set a new standard and top 4 is a more than achievable target.
 
The season is NOT decided by stripping it down to what one team did against their closest rivals.

Look at the final league table - its shows your teams position, its a fair and accurate reflection of your teams season.

Its pointless beating the big teams if you lose to the wee ones. Its pointless beating the wee ones if you lose to the big ones. Its all about getting the most points over the total number of games.

No arguments there, but what it shows you is that there isn't much between the teams. I made the point earlier that the mini-league used to mean much more than it did as the top teams were more consistent against the lower teams. Hell if Spurs strikers had actually remembered how to score goals they could have won the league last year. ;)
 
Another one who can't read it seems, I guess it's not that surprising as you don't know the difference between your and you're. ;)

'Not much between them' isn't the same as saying they're level, though I guess if you can only see in black and white I can understand where these conclusions come from. :p
 
That table means **** all. If you took out Spurs and put in us we would be on 15 points against the others! 19 in total if you include the Spurs results.
 
Even two years ago the league had become determined on a 'big-four' mini-league, with top 4 teams very rarely slipping up against other teams, this is definitely no longer the case as the 'big-four' no longer really exists as it did.

For those that have misplaced their glasses.
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Shall we try this again and see if you completely miss the point for a 3rd time?

Barca don't simply have the option to buy Bojan back for €13m if they choose, they're obliged to offer Roma that. In other words, regardless of whether Bojan flops like a wet fish and Roma can't even give him away or whether he loses both his legs in a car crash, in 2 years time Barca must offer Roma €13m to buy him back.

How is being obliged to buy him back, rather than having the option to buy him back if it proves worthwhile to you, good for Barca?

it's basically a "loan", as in barcelona are loaning 12 million from Roma and in exchange they have to give them Bojan for 2 years and pay 1 million in interest.

they need that 12 million to fund the fabregas deal most likely.
 
No arguments there, but what it shows you is that there isn't much between the teams. I made the point earlier that the mini-league used to mean much more than it did as the top teams were more consistent against the lower teams. Hell if Spurs strikers had actually remembered how to score goals they could have won the league last year. ;)

Its completely irrelevant. Sorry, but it is.

What shows the difference between the teams is the final league table.

If you raise your game and beat the top 4 then thats great but its meaningless unless you beat the other teams too. If you manage to beat the other teams then you will quote the final league table cos you will be at the top. If you arent then you will quote the table you quoted....
 
Another one who can't read it seems, I guess it's not that surprising as you don't know the difference between your and you're. ;)

'Not much between them' isn't the same as saying they're level, though I guess if you can only see in black and white I can understand where these conclusions come from. :p

pass the your/you're thing off as my hands are shaking from the events in the pc gaming forum tonight :p

And you said "Spurs then beat Liverpool 2-0 away to make the league look very even. "
 
Its completely irrelevant. Sorry, but it is.

What shows the difference between the teams is the final league table.

If you raise your game and beat the top 4 then thats great but its meaningless unless you beat the other teams too. If you manage to beat the other teams then you will quote the final league table cos you will be at the top. If you arent then you will quote the table you quoted....

30% of the fixtures completely irrelevant? I wouldn't go that far.

My point was that it used to be a strong indicator, but it isn't one anymore. Now it's merely an indicator. :p
 
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NOT THE THREAD TO BE TRYING TO ARGUE THIS RUBBISH!!!! GET BACK ON TOPIC!!!!
 
And the examples of that happening in the past?

To be fair he may do, but its rare to see a players value rise in such situations.

I've got no examples, but this is somewhat of a novel situation in itself. Spurs have Modric tied down to contract for another 5 years or so. That's a really long contract. It puts Spurs in a great position because legally they don't have do sweet f a. They can hold onto him for that duration and he can't leave because he's contractually bound.

In 5 years Modric will be 30 and most players value decreases by that sort of point in their lives. So technically Spurs have got him for what many would consider to be the prime years in a players life. Modric is not going to want to waste those years achieving nothing, he's more likely to want to push harder to at least try and win something or make himself more desireable so that bigger clubs with bigger bank balances come in with their cheque books pre-signed. It'd do him no good not to play well because otherwise his career is ruined.
 
30% of the fixtures completely irrelevant? I wouldn't go that far.

My point was that it used to be a strong indicator, but it isn't one anymore. Now it's merely an indicator. :p

Its not.

Try signing a player based on this "indicator" when the final table doesnt put you in the top 4.

Its meaningless.

It always was meaningless, it was just convienient when the same teams competed for the title as a sky tool to type up games.

30% of the fixtures ARE irrelevant if theY distort the way the table finished when you have the apparent audacity to add in the other 70%.
 

Of course it is irrelevant you clown!!!

Its totally ridiculous until it is proven after the event.

The best team wins the league.

Every game is worth 3 points.

It genuinely doesnt matter what links can be retrospectively drawn between teams.
 
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