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Ashley Young can play CM too can't he? Given the surfeit of wide players that sounds like a reasonable option.

Huh just read this which seems to support his versatility

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ashley-young-replace-paul-scholes-in-midfield

Young is pretty inexperienced in an AM position though - not something SAF will gamble on lightly. You are correct though AY has played there for Villa and England in the past :)


Its also worth considering that if it was in SAF's original plans for the season to let Young play in the AM position, United wouldnt have been (or still are ) chasing Sneijder so heavily
 
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Young couldn't play a central role in a 442, we would have to entirely change formation to utilise him in that role. I suppose it could work but I can't see SAF trying it.
 
Young couldn't play a central role in a 442, we would have to entirely change formation to utilise him in that role. I suppose it could work but I can't see SAF trying it.

Plus he couldn't do his main trait, cut inside, go outside, cut inside, go outside, cut inside, go outside, shoot/cross.....
 
I'd say we are better off and expect us to be better this coming season than last.

The spine of the team was pretty much injured for most of last season and Vermaelen and RvP will hopefully stay fit. Wilshere somehow looks even better than last year and it wouldn't at all suprise me if Fab stays. Gervinho also looks to have a lot about him.

So far we've lost a cronically error prone defender and signed someone with some pedigree albeit in a weaker league. Arsene has also stated that we are looking for another defender.

So far for me I'm happy. That could all change of course over the coming weeks but I can't see how we are any weaker at all at the moment.

Gervinho doesn't look to have a lot about him, in a position he will not start in he got two tap in's I'd expect Denilson to have put away, the rest of his performance was very poor, from that performance aside from the finishes there was nothing else to his game on show at all...... great if he plays top in a 4-4-2, in a 4-3-3 either upfront, or on the wing, that won't work.


Vermaelen missing last year wasn't the problem with defence, a solid partnership was missing, in all 3 preseason games, and the end of last season Vermaelen individually has looked excellent, as part of a back four, the defence has looked hopeless, because 1 out of 4 defenders being in the right place doesn't work. Vermaelen coming back will do nothing without a proper partner.

He's also an existing player, getting one back from injury isn't strengthening, getting a new player would be, we've lost Clichy, lost Denilson, look like losing Almunia, Bendtner, Eboue, almost certainly one of Cesc/Nasri, if not both, and looks like theres a slim chance of losing Diaby aswell. I hate some of those and rate some of those, however numerically we're on our way to a severe weakening. Excluding the fact that even if Cesc stays, he's now missed most of preseason so won't be remotely ready for the season, neither would Bendtner, Diaby, Eboue if they stayed.

Arsenal have bought two players, of whom neither will start, we've lost a certain starter, we're set to lose our best player, we're set to lose another certain starter, and 3 rotation/backup players, lol, Arsenal strengthened.
 
Gervinho doesn't look to have a lot about him, in a position he will not start in he got two tap in's I'd expect Denilson to have put away, the rest of his performance was very poor, from that performance aside from the finishes there was nothing else to his game on show at all...... great if he plays top in a 4-4-2, in a 4-3-3 either upfront, or on the wing, that won't work.

He got took off after 29 mins didn't he?! He was injured when he scored his second, hardly enough time to judge.
 
Judging Gervinho after one friendly? Well played DM, that's jumping the gun, even for you.

I wouldnt be bothered if United didnt sign a midfielder this summer providing we see some of the younger players given a chance.
If he doesnt sign anyone and ticks with the same 4 under achievers as last year then he should be sent to the loony bin.
Give how you continue to win things every season, despite how little you rate some of your players, surely they're over achievers? ;)
 
My word, firstly he got basic basic passes hopelessly wrong, secondly, everyone who wants to praise Gervinho is jumping all over his two goals as proof he'll be great already.

Its as simple as this, I really don't care how good a striker he is, why, because he'll be played on the wing if he's played, infact, Ryo has looked by FAR our best winger in preseason, and the biggest impact Gervinho is likely to have is stopping Ryo getting games, yay.

Chamakh played more on the wing than upfront since xmas, and thats barely any playing time as it is, Vela can't get a game, but when he does, its normally on the wing, Theo can't get a game upfront, Eduardo couldn't get a game upfront, Bendtner, etc, etc.

RVP is our starting striker, full stop, Gervinho might get games on the wing, therefore I care about how good he is on the wing. HE was passing at the level that made Denilson look competant.

I've also specifically said more than once, just not again in that post, that its one game, that 30 mins isn't much and probably shows he's not match fit, however the sheer ineptitude of his passing was worrying, match fit or not basic passing should still be pretty accurate.

If we were going to paly 4-4-2, if RVP might play wide and him upfront, 2 goals, great, but just as I wouldn't have wanted Traore to start at left back had he got two goals while being rubbish in defence, Gervinho will need to be a quality winger, to play on the wing, full stop, theres no other argument there.

I also posted in response to someone who said Gervinho showed a lot to his game, two good but easy finishes shows ONE PART of his game, the other parts were bad, it was only 30 mins of bad passing, but thats all I can judge him on. I notice no one cared to have a go at bigbeard for stating how great Gervinho was based on 30 mins.

Seriously, can anyone honestly say they think Gervinho will start more than a handful of games upfront ahead of RVP, if not, and he'll start mostly on the wing, if at all, is how he plays on the wing not more important? Would the UTd fans play Berbatov on the wing because he was top scorer last year, what about Torres, or Carroll, or, etc, etc, etc. I didn't say his goals were bad, I didn't say he would be a bad striker, I'm simply saying he was brought to be a WINGER at Arsenal, in 30 minutes he didn't show anything as a winger, thats not a good sign, its not a terrible sign, its pretty much nothing at the moment.

I seem to recall the exact same situation last year with Chamakh, with clueless idiots saying, free player, wooo, and me saying, 4 mil player to sit on the bench, where has he been for 6 months, except draining money out of the club? A very decent player, not quite good enough, but it doesn't matter, he doesn't ruddy play, had we bought in a WINGER on 4mil a year, that player might have started all 38 games and made a massive difference, or had we spent 4mil a year on a DM he might have started all year and made a difference, buying another player for a position we have so completely thoroughly covered, who won't play, isn't encouraging in any way at all.
 
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My word, firstly he got basic basic passes hopelessly wrong, secondly, everyone who wants to praise Gervinho is jumping all over his two goals as proof he'll be great already.
And you're doing the exact same thing, but in the other direction. So does that make you a "clueless idiot" too?
 
I don't think DM would be happy unless you played a team of 18 year olds.

With the surnames of Eboue, Bendtner and Fabregas.

I think he's getting worse, slagging a player off after he played a whole 30 minutes, in which he scored 2 goals... I really have no idea how that is possible? :confused:
 
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I think he's getting worse, slagging a player off after he played a whole 30 minutes, in which he scored 2 goals... I really have no idea how that is possible? :confused:

unfortunately he does the same kind of thing in F1 threads also :(
 
And you're doing the exact same thing, but in the other direction. So does that make you a "clueless idiot" too?

Exactly. According to DM anyone who says Gervinho is great (which I don't believe anybody has yet) after watching him for 30 minutes is an idiot, but its perfectly fine for DM to basically write him off after those 30 minutes.

DM != Arsenal fan
 
My word, firstly he got basic basic passes hopelessly wrong, secondly, everyone who wants to praise Gervinho is jumping all over his two goals as proof he'll be great already.

Its as simple as this, I really don't care how good a striker he is, why, because he'll be played on the wing if he's played, infact, Ryo has looked by FAR our best winger in preseason, and the biggest impact Gervinho is likely to have is stopping Ryo getting games, yay.

Chamakh played more on the wing than upfront since xmas, and thats barely any playing time as it is, Vela can't get a game, but when he does, its normally on the wing, Theo can't get a game upfront, Eduardo couldn't get a game upfront, Bendtner, etc, etc.

RVP is our starting striker, full stop, Gervinho might get games on the wing, therefore I care about how good he is on the wing. HE was passing at the level that made Denilson look competant.

I've also specifically said more than once, just not again in that post, that its one game, that 30 mins isn't much and probably shows he's not match fit, however the sheer ineptitude of his passing was worrying, match fit or not basic passing should still be pretty accurate.

If we were going to paly 4-4-2, if RVP might play wide and him upfront, 2 goals, great, but just as I wouldn't have wanted Traore to start at left back had he got two goals while being rubbish in defence, Gervinho will need to be a quality winger, to play on the wing, full stop, theres no other argument there.

I also posted in response to someone who said Gervinho showed a lot to his game, two good but easy finishes shows ONE PART of his game, the other parts were bad, it was only 30 mins of bad passing, but thats all I can judge him on. I notice no one cared to have a go at bigbeard for stating how great Gervinho was based on 30 mins.

Seriously, can anyone honestly say they think Gervinho will start more than a handful of games upfront ahead of RVP, if not, and he'll start mostly on the wing, if at all, is how he plays on the wing not more important? Would the UTd fans play Berbatov on the wing because he was top scorer last year, what about Torres, or Carroll, or, etc, etc, etc. I didn't say his goals were bad, I didn't say he would be a bad striker, I'm simply saying he was brought to be a WINGER at Arsenal, in 30 minutes he didn't show anything as a winger, thats not a good sign, its not a terrible sign, its pretty much nothing at the moment.

I seem to recall the exact same situation last year with Chamakh, with clueless idiots saying, free player, wooo, and me saying, 4 mil player to sit on the bench, where has he been for 6 months, except draining money out of the club? A very decent player, not quite good enough, but it doesn't matter, he doesn't ruddy play, had we bought in a WINGER on 4mil a year, that player might have started all 38 games and made a massive difference, or had we spent 4mil a year on a DM he might have started all year and made a difference, buying another player for a position we have so completely thoroughly covered, who won't play, isn't encouraging in any way at all.

This is brilliant. Thank for you my entertainment for tonight. What a clueless fool you are hahaha. How is this guy not banned from the Football Forum? He's a clueless. :D It's funny though.
 
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I put him on ignore ages ago aswell, but because I'm an idiot keep reading his posts. And then I rage :(

I did as well. Its the only way as he has to be the best comedy troll account I've seen on any forum.
 
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