** Summer Transfer Window 2011/12 Season Rumours/Signings **

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FrankJH said:
Yes he did indeed say that - but that implies someone else rather than one of the players I mentioned.

I never stated Utd wouldnt sign another player (:
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You never know. Inter might decide they will accept an offer that UTD can afford and the deal is on again. A Nani/Wes cash deal would be good. Seeing as how UTD have plenty of wingers and not enough CM, it makes sense to off load one of them. I think UTD would be ok without Nani to be honest.
 
Robert1986 said:
You never know. Inter might decide they will accept an offer that UTD can afford and the deal is on again. A Nani/Wes cash deal would be good. Seeing as how UTD have plenty of wingers and not enough CM, it makes sense to off load one of them. I think UTD would be ok without Nani to be honest.
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out of the wingers they have

valencia, nani, young and park

nani could be arguably the best, selling your best winger to then bring in 5 foot 7 inch midfielder in the most physical league in the world, would be a huge gamble.

especially if one of them gets injured and you have to rely on park.
 
Robert1986 said:
You never know. Inter might decide they will accept an offer that UTD can afford and the deal is on again. A Nani/Wes cash deal would be good. Seeing as how UTD have plenty of wingers and not enough CM, it makes sense to off load one of them. I think UTD would be ok without Nani to be honest.
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I still believe its the wages that have so far scuppered any chance - its not the one off transfer cost, which imo wouldnt be that much of an issue for Utd (even for a 27 yo)

Saying that - Nani's best performances were at the beginning of the season, and while Im not his biggest supporter by any means - he certainly started last season with a bang and replacing that goal / assist tally might be difficult from the off for a new comer to the team (meaning Young rather than Sneijder from a positional point of veiw rather than deal / swap pov)

That is why I would be nervous about letting Nani go straight away - although I would be cheering like crazy about the arrival :D

Psycho Sonny said:
out of the wingers they have

valencia, nani, young and park

nani could be arguably the best, selling your best winger to then bring in 5 foot 7 inch midfielder in the most physical league in the world, would be a huge gamble.

especially if one of them gets injured and you have to rely on park.
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Whether thats the general fans view or not - its blatantly not SAF's view after he left Nani out of a number of big games (and the majority of the last few months) at the end of the season......from starting at the very least , and a number of times out of the game completely.

At this moment in time it seems SAF's view is Park and Valencia are his preferred choice, with Young in (I would guess) to replace one of those two in all liklihood, and probably Park it has to be said.....until such time as Young may feel comfortable in an AM position (just as a possibility at some poiint in the future Im saying nothing stronger than that)

and really thats all that counts
 
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FrankJH said:
Im posting an accurate reflection of what he actually said (in this case)
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LOL no you're not,

Asked about Sneijder, Gill said: "We didn't progress that one. I'm not doing anything on anything at the moment, so they are all dead."

Gill said, however, that the situation could change before the end of the transfer window. "The important point is that you never know. I've been around in football long enough to know things change quickly. Somebody may become available and we can then say we are interested."
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So you saying they're completely dead to me at least sounds fairly conclusive yet all Gill said is a repeat of what he said a few days earlier; he's not working on anything at the moment but that could all change when the team returns from America and that includes Sneijder, Nasri, Modric, The Pope anyone
 
Tom84 said:
LOL no you're not,



So you saying they're completely dead to me at least sounds fairly conclusive yet all Gill said is a repeat of what he said a few days earlier; he's not working on anything at the moment but that could all change when the team returns from America
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Even your quote states "We didnt progress that one, so they are ALL dead" just as clearly.

While you are happy to read between the lines and hope for the best (and you may end up correct) , Im just reading what he states clearly with no ambiguity
 
Apart from Rooney, theres no one else that is really good at set peices.. Nani is alright but tries to do a Ronaldo free kick every time. and I really doubt Giggs will getting many games next season. We need Wes. Wes isn't a selfish player either.
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FrankJH said:
Even your quote states "We didnt progress that one, so they are ALL dead" just as clearly.

While you are happy to read between the lines and hope for the best (and you may end up correct) , Im just reading what he states clearly with no ambiguity
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But also adding a conclusive word in here and there for good measure

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Robert1986 said:
Apart from Rooney, theres no one else that is really good at set peices.. Nani is alright but tries to do a Ronaldo free kick every time. and I really doubt Giggs will getting many games next season. We need Wes. Wes isn't a selfish player either.
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I dont usually read your posts but you do realise that the vid you've just posted the ball was behind the line before Nani touched it thus is was a error by the officials dont you?
 
Moses said:
Essien - recurring knee problem.
Torres - I'm as good as him (I, too, can fail to score goals).
Boswingwa - 24 appearances last year, 62 in the last three... someone doesn't rate him as a first eleven baller.
Alex - 12 appearances last year, 16 the year before... someone doesn't rate him as a first eleven baller.
Zhirkov - 21 appearances last year, 27 the year before... someone doesn't rate him as a first eleven baller.

http://www.thespoiler.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/averageoftitlecontenders.thumbnail.gif was posted earlier this month - cba with checking all the figures myself, for the purposes of this debate.

I know Manyoo have/had some old players, but they've replaced a load/have a load of youth waiting in the wings. Rafael/Fabio/Smalling/Jones/Hernandez/De Gea/Nani/Anderson/Welbeck all under 25... Rooney and Valencia are only 25... Young's 26.
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you use the first 11 argument then bring in fabio, anderson and welbeck into your argument

does not compute
 
Psycho Sonny said:
you use the first 11 argument then bring in fabio, anderson and welbeck into your argument

does not compute
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What doesn't compute? Fabio is our first choice RB (even if he isn't and it's his brother they're twins so the same age) and Anderson will more than likely be a regular starter next season due to apparently no midfield incomings.
 
Tom84 said:
But also adding a conclusive word in here and there for good measure
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Ok my bad I added "completely" in my first post - not exactly a huge thing compared to what Gill said to be fair

I believe a CM will come in - I just dont believe it will be the player you so desperately want (or Modric for that matter lol) :)
 
Robert1986 said:
Apart from Rooney, theres no one else that is really good at set peices.. Nani is alright but tries to do a Ronaldo free kick every time. and I really doubt Giggs will getting many games next season. We need Wes. Wes isn't a selfish player either.
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I thought Young was a set -piece taker? (Havent watched Villa at all really, but got that impression from transfer articles - so appologies if incorrect)

Tom84 said:
What doesn't compute? Fabio is our first choice RB (even if he isn't and it's his brother they're twins so the same age) and Anderson will more than likely be a regular starter next season due to apparently no midfield incomings.
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I would guess that it is actually Rafael, although I hope Fabio can push on this season without any major injuries holding him back like last few seasons)

(backing up your comment rather than really disagreeing just for the record) :)
 
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I hope young can take a corner or two. But we really need a big hitting player who can accurately hit the goal with free kicks. As above, we are down to Rooney, Nani and Giggs at a push for this at the moment.
 
Hargreaves was a spectacular free-kick taker, I cant even begin to imagine how many free-kicks Utd have completely wasted with no real dead-ball specialist (without considering corners which seem to be a waste of time for Utd recently for the most part)
 
Young is known for his set piece play you're correct. 2 years ago Villa scored more set piece goals than anyone else and he was the taker in most occasions.

That said I haven't been blown away by Young on the USA Tour, although the stats suggest he does get his fair share of assists having seen him now for United (albeit very briefly) I wonder how many of those at Villa were from open play, as him cutting in on his right and putting crosses into the keeper really requires someone running across the near post. Hernandez might well make those runs but none of the strikers who have been on the tour have.

Hopefully when the real games start Fergie will opt to switch Young and Nani 3/4 times in a game like we did when Ronaldo was at the club because at the moment Young being solely on the left is far too one dimensional keep cutting in on his right all the time, Nani on the other hand is quite comfortable with both his left and his right
 
Is Man Utd barca on TV at all, or when does it kick off? i cant find many details. id like to see how young does...And now i guess we will see if berba can do decent and help us hold the ball up against a team like them. Even their youth team against Bayern must have put in nearly double bayerns passes..
 
Tom84 said:
I dont usually read your posts but you do realise that the vid you've just posted the ball was behind the line before Nani touched it thus is was a error by the officials dont you?
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It was just an example of the type of player he is. He likes the glory too much. He could easily tell if the ball was going in or not before going to head it.
 
Robert1986 said:
It was just an example of the type of player he is. He likes the glory too much. He could easily tell if the ball was going in or not before going to head it.
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Yeah and he chose to head it once it had crossed the line? I assume you're of the opinion he was trying to steal the goal from Ronaldo? I disagree.
 
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