Riots in Tottenham, London! (NO RACIST COMMENTS)

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It will be so funny if that little idiot in the yellow T shirt gets arrested for public disorder or something later for sticking his finger up to the camera!
 
PMKeates said:
The last thing we want is a massive shoot up on our streets. The very last thing. It's all well and good to sit behind a computer screen going "I'd authorise full force", but you're commanding people to kill people. It's the worst case scenario imaginable and should be the absolute last resort, used only when it's likely that not using immediate lethal force is the more dangerous option.

The best outcome possible is a neutering of the riots with as little force as possible. The best way to stop all-out warfare against the police is for the police not to be reactionary, and instead act as an almost non-violet blocking force. If the police use violence it just fuels the rioters and gives them reason and drive to do even worse in revenge.
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adscan said:
What planet are you living on?
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PMKeates said:
The same one as you. The police actually take the approach I am describing, and I guess they are in a better position to take that decision having done more research in to the topic than you?
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adscan said:
If only you knew....I do happen to know a little on this subject..;)
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You are implying that my claims that we don't want a massive shoot up, that people getting shot is the worst case imaginable, and the best outcome is as little force used as possible are somehow wrong, and this is because you know lots about the subject.

So, what would that 'lots' be?
 
cheets64 said:
I dont want it and I know it wont happen, this is not Hamas vs Israel, this a bunch of losers going up against the powers that be and they have more money and weapons than you can image and all for some guy that was respected by the community that was carrying a gun.

I mean I have been riding in taxi for years and never been shot at by the police, crazy I know.
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Running in killing them all is not without consequence and eventually, with social commentary like in here, it could potentially start to leak out further than the criminal fraternity. It could lead to ill aimed recriminations and more social or racial issues.

If you don't want violence, why did you say shoot them a few posts ago then?
 
So I am watching the BBC news coverage of this and wondering why they keep saying "A young man was shot by police on Thursday"? Surely it is reporting like this that has led to these riots. If it was being reported as it happened "Gang Member/Leader shot a police officer and was swiftly brought down by police" then surely people would be less up in arms?
 
gropingmantis said:
So I am watching the BBC news coverage of this and wondering why they keep saying "A young man was shot by police on Thursday"? Surely it is reporting like this that has led to these riots. If it was being reported as it happened "Gang Member/Leader shot a police officer and was swiftly brought down by police" then surely people would be less up in arms?
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Are you surprised? The BBC are idiots and gits.
 
gropingmantis said:
So I am watching the BBC news coverage of this and wondering why they keep saying "A young man was shot by police on Thursday"? Surely it is reporting like this that has led to these riots. If it was being reported as it happened "Gang Member/Leader shot a police officer and was swiftly brought down by police" then surely people would be less up in arms?
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BBc and Sky news are alway full of crap!!
 
gropingmantis said:
So I am watching the BBC news coverage of this and wondering why they keep saying "A young man was shot by police on Thursday"? Surely it is reporting like this that has led to these riots. If it was being reported as it happened "Gang Member/Leader shot a police officer and was swiftly brought down by police" then surely people would be less up in arms?
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Which of those things are known facts? All the police have said is that co19 officers killed a 29 year old man.
 
Arguably that it isn't that particular event that is the sole basis of this riot but rather it being a 'straw the broke the camel's back' situation.
 
Ah i see...my comment was this..

Police have a duty of care, mainly to the common and decent people who are caught up in this situation. But also to colleagues. I do not support the view of guns blazing and shooting the rioter's but sitting back and simply observing is not an option.

Contain, minimise and control the rioter's and there criminal actions by reasonable force is what action I support. Unfortunately Police have to operate within the law. Rioter's don't...
 
Biohazard said:
Running in killing them all is not without consequence and eventually, with social commentary like in here, it could potentially start to leak out further than the criminal fraternity. It could lead to ill aimed recriminations and more social or racial issues.

If you don't want violence, why did you say shoot them a few posts ago then?
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Because they need to be taught a lesson, to them death is almost glory, sick of this liberal thinking, I was brought up right from wrong, granted I was never subjected to certain aspects of life but I have had a few crap years with very little money but I have never turn to crime or violence.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...k-Duggan-shot-police-London-cab-shootout.html

No time, no place, step up to the plate, cowards, one guy doing his job, paying his taxes vs sub human scum.
 
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