I don't think anyone is expecting him to do a Robbie Keane. Most people expect him to stay at Barca for the rest of his career.
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I don't think anyone is expecting him to do a Robbie Keane. Most people expect him to stay at Barca for the rest of his career.
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So to support a team u must be a blind fanboy and just accept everything is nice and rosey in our club? So every person that moans about there club shouldnt be supporting there team?
Go ask that same question to other supporters of different clubs. Like liverpool before Daglish was in charge.
Seriously think before u type and dont put words in to my mouth either as i have NEVER slagged off our stadium
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So to support a team u must be a blind fanboy and just accept everything is nice and rosey in our club? So every person that moans about there club shouldnt be supporting there team?
Go ask that same question to other supporters of different clubs. Like liverpool before Daglish was in charge.
Seriously think before u type and dont put words in to my mouth either as i have NEVER slagged off our stadium
Yes, if you disagree with the existing regimes decisions you are a trouble maker. Some people are clearly unable to separate support for the regime and support for the club. remember managers will come and go but the club remains. What happens when the regime changes and different or contradictory decisions get made i don't know it must really boggle the mind of some 'fans'...
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Look at city when they got money. Its sad yes but thats the only way out of this mess for arsenal. Maybe if wenger had the same funds as city he could build a team far better then Barcelona but we dont know. all ifs or buts but make no mistake, this club cant afford world class players period. not wantiing to spend 50m on world class player on top of their wages is the real truth.
This arsenal side is completely screwed. it will be a miracle if we finish in the top 4. No chance of competing for the title. all arsenal fans know this unless Wenger buys shniejder and Tevez which u and i both know is never going to happen.
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Wenger has done so well to keep you there though without spending big. ive said it before you can't view this in isolation, you've just been outspent massively by 3 other clubs- yet you came within a bentdner miskick of knocking barca put of the champions league whereas lord ferg and his interesting squad selection for the final copped a right lesson in football - again.
can you expect to win the league if chelsea spend 600 million on players and city can offer 250k a week in wages? Of course not. the days of the competition being man u or arsenal are long gone im afraid - you'vejust been outspent and out financed.
can you expect to win the league if chelsea spend 600 million on players and city can offer 250k a week in wages? Of course not. the days of the competition being man u or arsenal are long gone im afraid - you'vejust been outspent and out financed.
Probably but nontheless its interesting that Arsenal put that clause in for future ref...but then Barca slapped a 200mill euro release clause on him so as to ward off anymore interest in him.
Transfers wise Wenger has been diabolical for the past few seasons...he hasnt bought anyone really world class nor does he spend more than £15mill for a player. Dont know if its HIS policy or the board is telling him that he cannot buy the likes of Cahill, Mata and Jagielka....3 players we constantly linked with..but whatever the reason is, its starting to impact Arsenal on the field and i have a feeling that this season we will struggle against the likes of City, Utd and Chelsea and a whole host of lesser teams
....its not looking too good and im starting to worry a bit now. Tonights CL qualifier is stupidly important all of a sudden...no RVP, no Fabregas and no Nasri either...now i wish we would just sell him to get money and buy some decent replacements.
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It was a joke. If you werent such an angry person you might have known that with the
at the end of it.I honestly couldnt care who was in charge of our club as long as money was getting spent and our team improving. He has made us more financially stable and he always starts to "win" people back round thinking he may not be too bad if he keeps doing this but then he always goes and does something stupid and ****es everyone off again.
Nolan only left us because of the length of the contract, not the wages. Both him and Barton actually agreed to take pay cuts as long as they got the 5 year contract that they both wanted, Ashley said no. Ones out the door and the others on a free transfer now. We have 2 weeks left so as long as we get some of that £35 million spent on some new players then I'll be happy
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Probably but nontheless its interesting that Arsenal put that clause in for future ref...but then Barca slapped a 200mill euro release clause on him so as to ward off anymore interest in him.
Transfers wise Wenger has been diabolical for the past few seasons...he hasnt bought anyone really world class nor does he spend more than £15mill for a player. Dont know if its HIS policy or the board is telling him that he cannot buy the likes of Cahill, Mata and Jagielka....3 players we constantly linked with..but whatever the reason is, its starting to impact Arsenal on the field and i have a feeling that this season we will struggle against the likes of City, Utd and Chelsea and a whole host of lesser teams
Tonights CL qualifier is stupidly important all of a sudden...no RVP, no Fabregas and no Nasri either...now i wish we would just sell him to get money and buy some decent replacements.
Were more more or less putting out a carling cup side tonight. seriously our carling cup side wont be any different to our first 11. thats a worry
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You nearly won the carling cup!?!
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I seem to remember last season us putting out a strong first 11 for the carling cup?
Don't think it's been mentioned but it looks like Ngog could be joining Bolton in the not too distant future. They've reportedly made an improved bid of £4m+add-ons after having a £3.5m bid rejected last week. Tony Barrett from the Times has suggested that we want more but that the two valuations aren't far apart and he expects a deal to be done.
From what was reported at the start of the transfer window, Ngog's sale wouldn't go towards the purchase of any position other than a replacement striker/attacker. I hope nothing has changed as we could do with either a back-up striker or another wide player, allowing Kuyt to be used more as a striker.
From what was reported at the start of the transfer window, Ngog's sale wouldn't go towards the purchase of any position other than a replacement striker/attacker. I hope nothing has changed as we could do with either a back-up striker or another wide player, allowing Kuyt to be used more as a striker.
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If you want to know why we'll be in trouble, last season, winning ratio with Cesc, 64%, wins without Cesc, 31%. Now we have no Cesc, a weaker team in other area's, and the same people who could not win without him last year.
Thats title winning form with Cesc, and relegation fighting form without........
We have been spending big, we have VERY easily and very massively spent more on wages than anyone below us.
Its always going to be hard to quantify, a 970x hex core for £300 or a 980x, 3% faster, for £1000.
Theres a point where you spend 5 times as much, to be 3% better. Up till recently basically being in the top 4 spenders should quite easily see you into the top four, what you do from there, the money is massive between very similar quality players, wheres that line though. Arsenal are now overspending on crap players while City massively overspend, on not very much better players. I mean, is Balotelli better than RVP, but he's on more money.
For 10 years we've spent well into the top four on wages, and thats ALL THAT MATTERS in football spending.
You can get Aguero for 200k as a 16 year old, or 100mill as a 25year old, its the same player, but at 25years old, it will take the same wage, give or take a bit, to keep that player at the club. Transfer money has never, ever mattered, its simply luck of the draw, did you get the right players at 16, or have to buy them at 22-28, or get lucky again and get a cheap but great player at 32-33.
Wages are what dictate the level of quality you have in the team, Spurs clearly went out with the ability to spend 30-40mil in Jan, but none of the players they wanted, were at all interested in the kind of wages, sub 80k wage structure, the club offered.
Arsenal haven't over achieved at all, they haven't massively underachieved in terms of what they spent. none of that matters, I don't care about spending, I don't care about buying expensive players, or experience. I care that Theo is inept, yet starts, that Sagna is awful, yet starts, that RVP can't play as a lone striker, yet does, that Song can't play football AT ALL, yet starts. The club, ignoring fee's, and who they could buy, is being mismanaged at every level. We've been weak on set pieces for 10 years, and Wenger still won't focus on set piece training or a new defensive setup or training, he ignores problems we have, and has been creating new ones.
The squad WE HAD, could have done a LOT better. I'll say it again, no other top manager in their right mind would have played Cesc, against a physical Stoke team, with a recurring injury, at the end of a long line of games where he is rarely substituted, RIGHT BEFORE A CUP FINAL. If he had rested him, we'd have the Carling cup, simple as that, absolutely mind bogglingly stupid thing to do.
We always spent less than Utd, but more than basically everyone else, and won titles despite spending less. The gap between Arsenal/Utd isn't much bigger than its always been in wages. The gap with Chelsea and City is massive, even between them and UTd its massive and growing. But thats just because they overspend on the SAME quality players, not because they've got people 30% better than UTD have. Likewise, both those guys have spent more than Utd, yet UTD have won more titles. This league basically works as, spend 10-30% more than the entire rest of the league, you'll be top four, once you're top four, anything can happen. We've been well up there, for a long time, the main thing keeping us from titles is not money, but manager.
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It's easier to just use this table:
Things DM likes
Mike Ashley
Eboue
Bendtner
Ashley Young
Arshavin (I think?)
Things DM doesn't like
Liverpool/Benitez
Wenger
Song
Squillaci
Nasri
None of the top list can do any wrong, and none of the bottom list can do any right. Add to as required over the course of the thread.
Hicks & Gillett need to be added to the likes, as does Diarra, Alonso to the doesn't likes and Gerrard needs a special category.
It's easier to just use this table:
Things DM likes
Mike Ashley
Eboue
Bendtner
Ashley Young
Arshavin (I think?)
Things DM doesn't like
Liverpool/Benitez
Wenger
Song
Squillaci
Nasri
None of the top list can do any wrong, and none of the bottom list can do any right. Add to as required over the course of the thread.
What is interesting is that he thinks Arsenal won't finish in top 4 but also liverpool and spurs already have no top 4 chance. going by this 4th position must be vacant at the end of the season.
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Dm - fabregas is one of if not the best midfielder in the epl who can you replace him with?
Yes you won spending less than utd, not difficult when a team spunks 30 million on so many players like veron or 36 on hargreaves/carrick combined. but now its not just us spending that big. the other guys are spending with reckless abandon.
When you won the league and we outspent you are you stating it was all down to lord ferg?
Yes you won spending less than utd, not difficult when a team spunks 30 million on so many players like veron or 36 on hargreaves/carrick combined. but now its not just us spending that big. the other guys are spending with reckless abandon.
When you won the league and we outspent you are you stating it was all down to lord ferg?
No, that's not what I said in the slightest. If you're going to have a fit about me putting words in your mouth, don't do the same for me, ta.*
It's pretty simple really:
Number of times I've seen you say something nice or cheerful about the club: 0.
Number of times I've seen you say something insulting derogatory: Your post count.
It's not even about what you say. I doubt there's an Arsenal fan on here that's feeling great about how last season and this summer have gone, but they don't feel the need to constantly bring up how they want Wenger gone, like some desperate vendetta. It makes reading your posts pretty tiresome, and frankly adds nothing. The board aren't going to sack our manager if you post the same thing a thousand times or ten, so could you make it the latter please?
*EDIT: It's funny actually. I pulled you up for some sarcastic rant about "Wenger the untouchable", and you have a go at me for putting words in your mouth? Find me one post where anyone's said Wenger is untouchable.
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