** Summer Transfer Window 2011/12 Season Rumours/Signings **

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SSN saying Kranjcar is close to moving to Sunderland.

Fantastic signing for them if it happens!!

Wenger (also on SSN) saying he'd spend £40m on one player if the right one turned up as he wont sign average players.... maybe all these years when he's said I didn't see it he was telling the truth then because he's clearly not seen Chamakh :p
 
Wenger saying he will spend up to £40 mill for a player but needs to be the right player.

Heres a thought Wenger, dont buy just one, buy a few...£40mill would buy us Cahill and Jagielka...2 players we desperately need in our defence....buy Mata from Valencia to give us some much needed creativity in midfield.

Just ****ing do it Wenger for gods sake....
 
Really really hope Kranjcar doesn't go. Palacios deal never finalised, that should be sorted out. Jenas should be moved on long before Kranjcar, no idea why we would want to move him on, especially with there still being doubts over Modric staying.
 
Did you miss the bit about me being able to focus my hatred? I'll give you a clue: I'm not a spud. ;)



See this is just it: They're gone. Done. Dusted. Finito.

No amount of railing against Wenger will ever bring Flamini back, or I'd be doing it too. You have to learn to accept it, and move on. Suggest someone we could sign, and stop playing Captain Hindsight.

Me suggesting who Arsenal could buy is exactly as useful as pointing out who we shouldn't have sold. Also its not captain hindsight as I said this BEFORE we sold all those players and at the time pointed out how truly epically woeful the other players we kept were...... I think that was around the time most of this forum thought Denilson was brilliant :rolleyes:

We could get Diarra back, though I don't think he'd play under Wenger again, a new manager could probably persuade him. Again, I don't play championship manager so I can't go around suggesting a bunch of random people that half the forum think are fantastic.

Wenger is paid millions a year and employs many scouts on 100k's a year to search for players. Two things need to happen, Wenger needs to recognise who needs replacing and be willing to buy someone good enough. These are the things he fails to do completely. He thinks Song is good enough, therefore he isn't looking for a replacement.

THis is why my only recommendation is to fire Wenger, he will not buy players to replace people he thinks are more than good enough. Would anyone buy someone to replace Ronaldo, or Messi, or Vidic, etc, etc, etc. No, I don't think Wenger thinks THAT highly of Song but he doesn't recognise how crap he is. This is the fundamental flaw with Wenger, its not a lack of willingness to spend, he's just gone on record saying he'd spend 40mil on the right player, or 20mil, or whatever, he just won't buy average players......... 12mil on Gervinho, similar on Theo, Kos/Squillaci, Chamakh, etc, etc.

Wenger has lost all ability to see who needs replacing, and who he can buy thats actually good enough.

Wenger will not buy anyone appropriate, nor for the positions we need, we need a manager who will do that. I mean ffs, Bendtner is still one of our best strikers, and one of our best wingers despite not being built for it at all, and can't get a game. We've loaned one striker, selling another, and bought 3 strikers so far....... none of which we needed.
 
Peter Odemwingie to Arsenal....thoughts?

We have one starting striker, we have 5-6 other people who can play there, we've just bought 2 strikers and one winger/striker, all for one position, Gervinho is already playing out of position and totally crap.

Where would Odemwingie play...... on the bench, thats right, so no. Weak spots in the first team, left back, left wing, right back, DM, right wing..... getting our 6th or 7th striker should probably be somewhat lower priority.
 
I thought it was a billion Dollars.

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The question is, will the money go towards the debt, or will it go towards the Glazer businesses in the US...

Yes upto £400m hopes to be raised by selling 25% of the club on the SSE, reports indicate to pay off debt and buy further players........
 
We have one starting striker, we have 5-6 other people who can play there, we've just bought 2 strikers and one winger/striker, all for one position, Gervinho is already playing out of position and totally crap.

Where would Odemwingie play...... on the bench, thats right, so no. Weak spots in the first team, left back, left wing, right back, DM, right wing..... getting our 6th or 7th striker should probably be somewhat lower priority.

I really rate Odemwingie. With the right service he could be even more fantastic.
 
So let's just go through these:

  • Clichy - Obviously better than what we have now, but even you must concede he made too many mistakes. Plus how do you keep a player when he his being offered twice as much money by the new boys on the block?
  • Verm - no argument there.
  • Gallas/Toure - Gallas is a player who is no longer top quality and divided the dressing room. Toure - again, how could we have kept him given the offer on the table from City.
  • Eboue - Please, I know he's your best mate/top bloke/lover, but do you really think he's better than Sagna. No, he's not.
  • Reyes - Are you delusional? He only ever did the business in fits and bursts and as soon as he arrived he was whinging about being homesick. How were we meant to keep him happy?
  • Diarra - Never did the business for us, and is just a mercenary really. Good player, but he's never going to stay at a club for a prolonged period.
  • Cesc - No argument, but was always going to Barca sooner or later.
  • Arshavin - Probably no argument. His stats show how important he can be to the team, just wish he'd put a bit more effort in when he's having a bad game. You know within the first five minutes of a game whether he's going to have a good game or not. Frustrating too often for me.
  • Bendtner - Like Eboue, I know you love him, but he's had his chance and never really grabbed it by both hands. You can argue about him being played out of position, which is a valid point, but first touch is woeful and thinks he's far better than he actually is.
  • RVP - no argument.

Sagna is absolutely gash and yes Eboue is FAR better than him at right back, he's also a defensive midfielder for his country where he's FAR better than anything we've got.

Bendtner HAS done the business for us, whenever he gets starts he gets assists and goals, check his scoring record vs games, he's one of the best the club has had in years, we simply don't play him. Chamakh was also VERY good in the first half of the season, RVP got fit and Wenger simply threw him on the bench and ignored him, many players get that treatment at Arsenal.

Diarra has done the business everywhere he's been played, we didn't play him so he left, he's not a mecenary. Chelsea didn't play him, so he left, we didn't play him so he left, he went to Pompie and was absolute instrumental to winning the cup, they got offered 20mil, while 80mil in debt, he left.

We decided rather than play him, we'd stick with Song/Denilson instead, HUGE mistake.

Reyes, errm, you do realise he outscored/out assisted Nasri, Theo, Arshavin, any other winger we've had since. He's also been fantastic at Athletico since he went back to Spain pretty much. I didn't say he's the best winger in the world, he's MUCH better than what we have now and much better than Gervinho.

Gallas was also superb last season, better than anyone we had playing all last season, he also proved without a shadow of a doubt what a captain he is. Don't forget what ACTUALLY happened. Arsenal were playing like turd, Wenger was doing nothing, Gallas stepped up, talked out, Wenger dropped him, got thrashed, brought him back in while making other changes, and Arsenal improved significantly. Yeah, Gallas fell on his sword to help the team, the team was more important to him, and the performances, than looking bad...... thats the perfect example of a captain.

As for Toure, yes, we can turn down any offer, he was quality, but was being shifted out of the club which is why the offer came in. Wenger had been dropping him for 6 months before he left and it was known Toure was unhappy. Gallas improved the Spurs defence, Toure improved the City defence, Arsenals defence got worse, theres really nothing to argue about there.

As for Clichy making mistakes, no, no one can ever name these mistakes, when finally forced to, they come up with 2, or 3, less than almost any other defender out there. All players make some mistakes, Sagna makes significantly more that directly lead to goals, Clichy I can think of 2, one he made up for with a great tackle and the ref gave a ridiculous penalty.

Clichy has the lowest rate of conceding posession of all the top left backs in the league, makes more tackles, has the highest tackling success rate.
 
I really rate Odemwingie. With the right service he could be even more fantastic.

And how would this better service find him... on the bench? He'll have a good supply of bouncing water bottles, but not crosses into the box.

We have a striker, we play one striker, we have loads of backup strikers who are played out of position or simply don't play, we've bought 3 more players for those two wide positions this summer, when would he play?

Currently the list of players Arsenal have to play in the two wide positions are.

Arshavin, Gervinho, Theo, Bendtner(but we're assuming he'll leave), AOC, Campbell, Diaby, Wilshire(before being a DM due to Song's crapness, he was always a winger), Nasri, Rosicky, Ryo, Traore/Gibbs are both really wingers and Vela.

Thats 12 players who will still be Arsenal players who can play those two positions, though Vela is on loan. So we should add another player on higher wages for a decent transfer fee...... to make it 13, or if Nasri/Bendtner stayed, 15 players for those 2 positions. HIlariously, of the 15 people who we've regularly played on the wing(or have in their career), Ryo is really the only out and out winger we have today. I'd happily ditch half those players, buy 2 real wingers and save a crapload in wages.

We have to players for left back, neither are really left backs and neither can defend, one can't stay fit. We have three players for DM, one is loaned out, Song and Frimpong, neither can defend, nor attack, nor do much of anything.

We have FAR bigger priorities.
 
Me suggesting who Arsenal could buy is exactly as useful as pointing out who we shouldn't have sold.

Funny that you continue to peddle the latter whilst never daring to take a gamble and do the former then, isn't it?

I'm not saying you have to tell us who we should sign, but given your propensity for passing summary judgement on players both inside and out of Arsenal, I'd imagine I'm not alone in being quite intrigued as to why you never use your apparent boundless expertise to suggest something vaguely constructive, beyond "PLAY 4-4-2 AND SACK WENGER".

It doesn't matter whether you founded your opinions at the time or not, continuing to do so now serves absolutely no purpose whatsoever. We get it, we shouldn't have sold those players. What does it matter? You can't change things, you can't go back and make them stay now, and apart from Diarra, you probably can't re-sign any of them. Why can't you just look towards the next match like everybody else? Why must nearly every post consist of you going off on a tangent about how we're not as good as we would be if we did everything you say we should have done?

I disagree with things Wenger does plenty, but because I don't feel the need to spout off about them constantly, I seem to branded by people as an apologist for him. Fact is, I realised long ago that I have no control over what he, or the club does, so really, my options are to either accept what happens, or don't. It's a lot less stressful.
 
And how would this better service find him... on the bench? He'll have a good supply of bouncing water bottles, but not crosses into the box.

We have a striker, we play one striker, we have loads of backup strikers who are played out of position or simply don't play, we've bought 3 more players for those two wide positions this summer, when would he play?

Change the formation. Odemwingie is striker who actually plays on a defenders shoulder, makes runs into the box. RvP is a good No2 striker, he plays better supporting an out and out striker. When he first joined us he played the Bergkamp role with Henry.

We have ~£70m from Fabregas, Bender and Nasri. Hazard, Mata, Odemwingie, Vertonghen and Mertesaker. Done. Hell throw away Almunia for free, that will save about £3m/year in wages.
 
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Diarra has done the business everywhere he's been played

Chelsea didn't play him, so he left,
we didn't play him so he left,

he went to Pompie and was absolute instrumental to winning the cup, they got offered 20mil, while 80mil in debt, he left.
So basically he's 'done the business everywhere he's played' apart from Chelsea, Arsenal and Real and now finds himself playing for the European heavyweights Fenerbahce.
 
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Wenger saying he will spend up to £40 mill for a player but needs to be the right player.

Heres a thought Wenger, dont buy just one, buy a few...£40mill would buy us Cahill and Jagielka...2 players we desperately need in our defence....buy Mata from Valencia to give us some much needed creativity in midfield.

Just ****ing do it Wenger for gods sake....

lmao

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why hasn't he bidded for any of them? wenger will never spend more than £20 million, he would rather buy in 100 youngsters for £5 million each than spend £100 million on 4 players that will help them win the league.
 
I liked it when Wenger said "I'll even spend £30-40million on the right player..."

Well, duh. If someone offers you Messi for £40m, you bite their hand off :p
 
I missed that about Diarra signing for Fenerbache, somewhat surprising but obviously the best (only?) offer he received.

This Adebayor deal is really ridiculous and something City should be held accountable for. He can't get a game at City and no-one is going to match his ridiculous 170k per week wages, and he's hardly going to take a huge wage cut to go elsewhere (who would?). Signing up rafts of mediocre players on massive wages is just really irresponsible. I'm not totally in favour of salary caps but if teams will persist with such idiotic decisions then someone needs to step in and sort it out.

It's hard to feel sorry for footballers but they shouldn't be forced to make a decision between 170k/week and actually getting a game.
 
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