why are magic mushrooms illegal

Alcohol has done more damage to peoples mental health than any other drug, so i don't think you can use "well if mental people take it it could go **** up" as a valid excuse.

A lot more people drink alcohol than take mushrooms.

If the same amount of people took mushrooms, we then might be able to make a comparison.
 
it's true, in our "drug education" things at school it was hilarious they organized drugs into danger (cannabis was at the end of the "safe" side and tobacco right at the top of "most dangerous") but then she says

"however to smoke cannabis you must smoke tobacco so..."*she takes the person in the line holding cannabis and moves it to the number 2 most dangerous drugs slot above crack heroin and alcohol*.



I died a little inside.


That is just idiotic.
 
How hard? Not that hard to be honest. There are plenty of highly toxic mushrooms around and stupid people will eat them if they think they can get high.

If you read my post I said I don't mind if people do stuff that doesn't harm others. Harm can mean many things however, even if subtle

- GP

so isnt this just natural selection, theres also plenty of stupid people who will not look when they cross the road. After a few hours research on the internet you couldnt pick anything but magic mushrooms.
 
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How hard? Not that hard to be honest. There are plenty of highly toxic mushrooms around and stupid people will eat them if they think they can get high.


- GP

no there arn't iirc there's only 2 found in the uk which are toxic enough to do serious harm.
 
Why is DMT illegal? It is produced by nearly everything. It is running through our bodies now, it is in the plants, trees, animals etc. But is still illegal.
 
And where did I say divide by deaths. I didn't.

"cost" to society is made up of many different areas. Death being just one of them.
I'm sure if you find the drug report which the top scientist was sacked for, it will go into much more detail how they rated the drugs.


Why are you assuming deaths is the only bench Mark, drugs have a much wider problem than death.
They also have great benefits. It should be down to the individual to chose in all but the most extreme cases.
 
@ RadoX - This isn't something you can put down to that, what a silly thought

@ Tefal - I think you're right there are only 2 types, however I've seen them often enough to know that they aren't hard to find

- GP
 
@ RadoX - This isn't something you can put down to that, what a silly thought

@ Tefal - I think you're right there are only 2 types, however I've seen them often enough to know that they aren't hard to find

- GP

cant exacly mistake them for lib caps can you.
 
The issue is that with alcohol you can feel yourself getting drunk, and most people can choose to stop before they have too much. It's a choice thing to drink more, and if you do something stupid because you're drunk then it's your responsibility because you should've stopped drinking before losing control.

Other drugs aren't quite so easy to control, once consumed that's it, you're on that trip whether you like it or not. That's why they are more dangerous.

And I wonder why that is?

I'm not a mushroom expert but I'm guessing that some are stronger than others, and taking more of the mushroom (certain amounts) would strengthen the effects.

Just like the difference between vodka and beer, and how do we know that there is a difference? Because there is labels on the back telling us the alcoholic percentage.

Alcohol is moderated, and if mushrooms were moderated too people wouldn't go over the top like they do with Alcohol.

However I don't know how shrooms work and maybe a little bit is just as bad as a lot of mushrooms (don't see how that would work though.

So comparing those two is pointless and using that you know you're getting drunk is pointless too and a bad comparison.

Because you know how much you're consuming when taking alcohol because the government makes sure you KNOW how much you're taking.

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Also people when taking drugs or shrooms usually take one hit and they're gone. However with alcohol it's different because you take smaller quantities of alcohol and progressively build up the drunkenness. If there was a universal shot that instantly got people to 'being drunk' then you would have lots of people who, get drunk, don't get drunk, and for some it would be too much just like with people taking a mushroom.

Fact is people saying if drugs were legal people would abuse it. Well people abuse everything and that's life. If the government moderates things and does as much public campaigning on drink safe etc as it would on other drugs then people (the majority of the time) would be safe on things like mushrooms.
 
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Hallucinogens were traditionally used as a tool by shamans to see through the 'veil' - they really shouldn't be used by idiots as a social drug like ecstasy or alcohol.
 
There are a worrying amount of people on here that seem to think illegal drugs are illegal just 'for the lulz', like there is no actual science or reason behind it at all. Well, there is, some of you just choose to ignore it.

There really isn't any scientific evidence supporting the ban.
 
The question I always ask when these debates come up is what difference does it make? It's not exactly difficult getting hold of any narcotics you want in this country.

Making them legal would just allow the government to keep track of the people who take them and the price would go up no doubt as they would be massively taxed. Think yourslef lucky they're not legal.

All drugs do harm from alcholol to amphets the reason why booze and fags are not illegal is because use of them became normalised well before the Victorians and Edwardians started to legislate on all forms of human behaviour.

You guys who want them to be legal should be careful what you wish for as if you're paranoid now about the way the government works you'll be more paranoid if the gov legalises them and you have to sign a drug users register.
 
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